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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/23/2008 11:37:43 PM | OP,
You know what's interesting? It all comes down to culture differences. I've lived on both the Eastern and Western sea boards in America. There is a huge difference in the way men treat women and the type of social relationships that they have with us. Even in the Midwest. So, to put ALL American men in the same bowl is hard for me to take in. So, now I just base everything on one thought; everyone is different. I have to take in one person at a time. Even if you had two people born in the same spot at the same time, they will be very different. It all comes down to: What their life exspirence is, Their attitude towards life and are they a quality person? Every country has some seriously rotten people in it and then, they also have some awesome folks as well! So, I'd say that I'm pretty satisfied with most men with the way they are.. then there are some, I'd rather rather pee on their shoe and tell them that it's raining. :D heh.javascript:smilie(' ')
javascript:smilie('') Hope I made you laugh because life is a ride, enjoy it while it lasts. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 12:49:47 AM | What would be interesting is if some foreign, let's say non-Canadian, non-American guys posted here and gave us their thoughts on:
1-The differences between them and US/Canadian guys.
2-If they would ever contemplate dating US/Canadian women. If yes.. why? If no... why?
Might be quite interesting.
Sure why not! I am European who have dated on several continents so I might be able to help you answer your two questions. Since it is impossible to speak for an entire population, I have to resort to generalizations.
1. Depends on if you talk Northern or Southern European men (huge difference). In general, however, European males tend to be a little more aware of the world around them.
2. Yes, Im dating one now and have done som for quite some time. Now granted, she is somewhat of an exception to the rule as she has a very international background. In general, however, European men tend to shy away from U.S. women (can't speak for Canadians) as they are percieved as demanding, abrasive and combative.
Hope that helps. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 12:58:35 AM |
we guys are tiered of being passed by just because of how we look,
Careful there tiger! I am sure women can make the same argument and probably even more so! | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 1:35:09 AM | Well put wildflower!
I thought the question was if American women were satisfied. Now all of a sudden the guys are telling us why foreign women are better. Proves my point. Moot Point. Who cares if American women are satisfied, doesn`t seem like the men even noticed the question.
Seems to me some male posters are trying to hijack the thread perhaps, or are still singing the men are taken for granted theme tune ....and yes, i'm starting to take for granted that they are stuck in their negative view of US women and their victimhood.
I do find it really dissatisfying some American men seem to blame American women for all their troubles.....and still trying to prove it. When the women were on 'their' thread trying to stick up for ourselves, we were not respected.
It's why I say let them go and find their foreign brides.....but when those brides discover the egos that go with these men here (that I never saw like this 'over there'), those women might not be so enamoured - perhaps why some here are pointing out some of these foreign women do not stay so sweet after a while.
EDIT to add: just thought of something - from the mega thread, I did understand something as to why some men do not want to consider if women are satisfied here - I think it could be deep down they really believe American women can never be satisfied......and yet, ironically, what is coming across with that attitude is their own dissatisfaction that seems will never be appeased.
Old soul wrote it way back - about not liking any divisions between people - I am the same....what will it take for (some) American women and men to honor and truly respect each other again? For that seems to be the missing link for all those who are sufffering from these issues, both men and women, not just here but everywhere. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 1:42:11 AM |
Are women satisfied with American men?
No, they all want to be either dominated or want to complain every woman is a gold digger if she stays at home and looks after the family and him.
They complain too much and give nothing.
The truly lazy men will complain the most about american women, give the least and then look for foreign brides who they put in the position of taking more from them than any american woman could.
A satisfying sex life does not equal love even if a man thinks it does. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 3:28:48 AM |
Women are satisfied with their relationships of a man who will listen to them, appreciate them, treat them with respect, be honest, and where she can feel safe with him. It doesn't matter what country he's from. If he acts like a pig, she's simply not interested. Women of today, are less willing to put up with crap because they are better education, have careers, and have better opportunities, than women of generations ago.
Yes women are less willing to put up with crap, but 'some' are also less willing to give a little understanding or support to their man rather than scolding, criticising and pointing out his inadequacies. I'm not saying you should have low standards, but that once you HAVE decided to be with a man you should stand beside him. If more women stood beside their man instead of trying to squash him, men wouldn't feel resentment towards women, and would treat them accordingly. It's a two way street. You get what you give in life IMO. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 3:59:02 AM | American women, generally speaking, are far more critical & just plain angry at American men. Ive noticed UK & Canadian females seem much less cynical and much more open-minded than their American counterparts.
What I want to know is why the American female is so much harder to work with than in other countries? Its like US women are just plain mad at US men, for no discernable reason. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 4:38:29 AM | Can someone please explain to me the definition of a Canadian women! and a don't mean by a position on a globe, then when you are done, I will point out the fact that you have just described just about every other woman in the world.  | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 4:39:23 AM | it seems how we all treat each other is often directly proportional to how we are treated....meaning my understanding is it starts with each of us and our own behavior instead of blaming others for how we feel and then using that to treat them unkindly....
in other words, a very roundabout way of saying perhaps a cliche', but a really good one -
treat others as you wish to be treated.
so simple and so difficult to really practice sometimes. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 5:08:52 AM |
I thought the question was if American women were satisfied. Now all of a sudden the guys are telling us why foreign women are better. Proves my point. Moot Point. Who cares if American women are satisfied, doesn`t seem like the men even noticed the question.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this... | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 5:40:13 AM |
all the while shameful enough to exclude their own photos, I say this coward deserves his own demise. I can't overstate how repulsive some people are, and the most cruel, dysfunctional ones are most often those who do so name(face)lessly.
Dood, take a crash course in try and get over what a lousy person you are. LOL... I've known bigger people who could walk under a pregnant ant.
Ah, well, every pond has it's scum, aye?
Another nasty trolling post ... get a grip. Come on ... give a hug Play nice. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 6:38:37 AM | Demanding, abrasive, combative..............hmm, interesting way of describing
American women, Happy. Kind of the same words I would have chosen to describe
American men, but I didn`t wish to come off as demanding, abrasive and combative. I tried to not be negative in my wordage. But it doesn`t seem to bother what the guys choose to say. (as this thread has already demonstrated)
Maybe American men need to take a look in the mirror if they want to know why we seem to dislike them so. For myself,I just keep my distance for the most part. Much easier life and a lot less chances of a black eye. Yeah there`s a few nice ones out there, but a chancy proposition weeding through the rest. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 6:44:12 AM | | IMO men are frustrated with American women who don't want to act like women anymore, but I'm just as frustrated with men who won't act like men. No, I'm not happy with American men as a whole, but hasn't feminism ruined things everywhere? It's not just in America, so looking elsewhere would be pointless. I just want a man who acts like a man. I don't care where he's from. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 6:48:59 AM | For the OP,
As for your topic on American men and foreign women and do women ( American ) have a desire for foreign husbands? Well in my case I would have to admit that I have not dated a American in years. It is do to mostly lack of manners and there is no real attraction with the mind . I love to be able to discuss about everything and nothing and for my experience most American men don't enjoy talking... just getting drunk on Fridays or what ever they chose. That is my two cents on the topic. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 6:59:41 AM |
I am one of those guys,and here is my explanation,it is because other countrys are behind us between ninty to a hundred years,womens values in other countrys about men,are the way american women were about a hundred years ago here
and you wonder why american guys are itrested in forign women.
You are off topic and I didn't ask for that explanation.
I NEVER wondered why American guys are interested in foreign women; in fact, I stated I KNOW. That is your perception because you feel the need to defend your stance and you want another platform to expounds on the inadequacies of US women. That IS truly a subject that has been done and redone.
You need to reread my original post and at least one post afterwards: I am NOT interested in why US men want foreign brides. I have heard men who prefer women from other countries state over and over why they prefer those women. I am interested in why the seemingly reverse idea exists in women and why they do not seem to prefer men from other countries over North American men (is that a good enough qualifier?).
The rest of your post is another tirade against US women. So men like you prefer a foreign woman because she is: subservient, doesn't care about looks, doesn't care about age, and doesn't worry about whether a man will cheat on her or not? No offense, but it sounds like you are ugly, old, and just can't find a US woman!
And I will be the first to admit how shallow I am. I tried forcing two relationships with men whom I didn't find physically attractive but seemed to be "nice" guys. After awhile, the sex became a chore and the niceness was just boring. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:00:52 AM |
Because you are a typical woman who can't distinguish between quality and a dushbag.
What an interesting post. .... a typical woman A TYPICAL WOMAN.
So are women satisfied with North American ... Thank god for the ability to be able to pick and chose, regardless of the opinions stated here about us. In real life, as in not on a ""dating site"" the men are so great ... almost seems like they are from a completely different world than so many of the men here.
Not nearly so jaded ... so yep I am VERY satisfied with MOST North American Men ... tee hee and still MOST, not all, most seem happy and satisfied with us.
Much easier life and a lot less chances of a black eye.
These are men who are NOT satisfied with themselves. No backbone, bottom feeders, lowest self-esteem ... both men and women hate them, and rightly so. But hey they just keep teaching their kids to do as they do ... so many men just ignore it, ignore looking at their brothers and TEACHING them a more evolved way. The men who ignore abuse towards women are the men we pass by. Not just the abuser, but the enabler.
Perhaps that is why some men want to grab the woman from another country and those women actually think they are being treated OK. Oh the price they pay ... isolated from their family and friends ... being totally controlled by their partner.
We can and are very satisfied by most men here, and the choice few who are not desirable ... well we just pass them on by. It's not to teach them a lesson ... its because we just don't need the drama, money, or control to feel secure in a mans arms. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:01:21 AM |
IMO men are frustrated with American women who don't want to act like women anymore, but I'm just as frustrated with men who won't act like men. No, I'm not happy with American men as a whole, but hasn't feminism ruined things everywhere? It's not just in America, so looking elsewhere would be pointless. I just want a man who acts like a man. I don't care where he's from.
No I don't think feminism has hit all countries in the same way as it has in America and Britain for instance. Unfortunately this situation has been evolving for some time, so as some women have changed their attitudes and expectations of men, some men are starting to change their attitudes and expectations of women. It's a mess and I have to admit it p*sses me off sometimes that some rotten apples have ruined it for the rest of us. There's still hope though for those who don't stick them all in the same basket. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:03:36 AM |
I thought the question was if American women were satisfied. Now all of a sudden the guys are telling us why foreign women are better. Proves my point. Moot Point. Who cares if American women are satisfied, doesn`t seem like the men even noticed the question.
BINGO! I never asked and don't care to be told, again, whey foreign women are superior to US women.
Does this exemplify one of the #1 problems of which women complain: MANY MEN DON'T LISTEN TO US, and obviously, some don't read when we write, either. Or maybe those who didn't address the real question can't read and comprehend well--another reason to pass them over. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:26:31 AM | | I see american women looking for foreign men quite often. Generally they are looking for European , Canadian, or Australians, but quite frequently South American, and to me somewhat strangely, Middle Eastern. I think to some degree with these women it might be more about wishing to lice in some exotic land more than they see some difference in the men there. In one or two cases, they might have visited there. Sometimes i wonder if some of them have really done their homework as to living conditions in some of the cultures | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:28:22 AM | RE (msg 94)
Might also be that you yourself mention foreign brides in your OP a few times. So some may see that as an addressable issue within the topic. Perhaps if you had just kept the OP strictly to what you wanted it to be focused on, results may have been different, ie are US men satisfying US women, and are foreign men a viable option. Instead, 1/2 of your OP mentions foreign brides for US males. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:58:21 AM | I don't know about that, OP. I DO know many a lady that has a specific accent that makes them swoon that would very happily allow a foreigner sweep them off their feet.
But no, the whole "mail order spouse" thing seems to cater primarily to men. Not that I've ever met anyone that's done that. I've met a few people that have met people in other countries online and flew them over... but that's different. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:09:11 AM |
Might also be that you yourself mention foreign brides in your OP a few times.
It is called "setting the stage," background information as to why the question came into being, but at no time did I ask WHY men want foreign brides. At the expense of being repetitious, I said that I "KNOW" why. Those men who subsequently expounded on that topic, again, are merely looking for validation and an excuse to berate US women with the same rhetoric that they have used in other forums.
Perhaps if you had just kept the OP strictly to what you wanted it to be focused on
The following questions are specific!
Why is this? Are women satisfied with their relationships with American men? Are American men superior to men of other countries? Despite all the complaining that US women do, are we really content with our males? Do we figure that there aren't any "better" males out there?
See any questions in there as to why US men seek outside women? Nope. Had I wanted to know, I would have asked. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:11:19 AM |
I DO know many a lady that has a specific accent that makes them swoon that would very happily allow a foreigner sweep them off their feet.
I love British/Irish/Scottish accents. Maybe it is why I majored in British Lit. But after a woman is swept off her feet, eventually she is placed back on the ground. The accent needs to be accompanied by a keen mind. | |
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| Are women satisfied with American men?
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:11:45 AM | Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that EVERY time I see someone desiring a relationship with someone from another country, it is a man. SOME men want Asian brides or Russian brides, but rarely, if ever, do you see women vocally insisting that they want a mate from out of the US. I have not seen a forum started by a woman wanting an Asian or Russian husband or seen such a desire repetitively stated in forums.
Why is this? Are women satisfied with their relationships with American men? Are American men superior to men of other countries? Despite all the complaining that US women do, are we really content with our males? Do we figure that there aren't any "better" males out there?
First, let's just cut out all the bullshit about "foreign brides" shall we? There are way way way too many women on this site and in real life who treat any non American woman that an American man might want to date as some green card seeking ignorant uneducated manipulative whore. And that's just not fair. There are MANY well educated and bright and beautiful and hard working women who were born and raised in other countries. Many are still over there and some have come over to the US for other opportunities, but some of the women in these forums treat them all with disdain like pieces of trash. Yes, there are some women through dating sites that only want a green card and a meal ticket. So what? There are US women who only want a meal ticket too. But not every woman outside the US is like this.
I think it's time for some, not all but some, of the women on this site to cut the bullshit and stop insulting a lot of great and attractive women out there and call them green card seeking sluts because men that these US women DON'T WANT ANYWAY just happen to not want a US woman back. How does that make sense? You ladies don't want to date or sleep with or marry most American men, you want to date and sleep with and marry a very few select American men. Most of you don't want most of us, is it such a crime if most of us don't want most you back?
Second, most Russian and Asian men around the world are poor. Most women don't tend to date or sleep with or marry men who make much less than they do. Someone at the poverty line in the US still lives 100 times better than most people in the world. And let's be real, most American women would not find most Asian men attractive. Most American women are Caucasian women, and most Caucasian women don't find Asian men desirable, not even the Americanized versions. Asians are considered meek and submissive and often have features that are not considered attractive ( short, not as muscular, shoulders not as broad, seen as submissive, seen as the "perfect minority", stereotypes of small penises and treat women poorly and being cheap) I would also suspect most Russian men would be eliminated too, for simple amount of work. Most American women I've met expect to be catered to, finding a mate overseas and bringing them here is a ton of work.
Third, even if an American woman would seek an Asian or Russian abroad, do you think msot would admit it in public? Most women I've met would rather die alone than have a man they would be ashamed to present to family, friends and coworkers and ESPECIALLY other girlfriends. It's a loss of pride to say take an action that says you couldn't get an American man, that you had to reach out into the world to find someone. I doubt many women would want to look like that to their friends or perceive themselves that way. Most women, especially American women, think they "deserve" the best no matter what. Any action contrary to that is probably seen as dirty and unappealing.
To recap
1 - Most US women get asshurt when men they don't want anyway look somewhere else to just try to be happy. I mean how much of a heartless b*tch do some women in these forums or in real life have to be to begrudge people their own happiness or the pursuit of it? F*ck, why don't some of these anti "You must be a mail order bride, there can be nothing else existing in the world outside the USA" foreign women zealots tell a bunch of 7 year olds there is no Santa Claus too.
2- Most US women seem to ignore that the ideals of physical attraction that most of the hold are more likely to be possessed by men in the US, albeit a few since most women are picky as sh*t , than the majority of dirt poor Asians, Latinos and Russians around the world. Most women want to date up and not down on the socioeconomic ladder so why would most US women spend more time, money and effort to get a man who makes less?
3 - Most US women have just too much damn pride to admit in public that the the pool of US men they really really really want just don't want them back. And most US men filter mate selection by physical attraction. Most US women don't want to admit it, if a US guy you want doesn't want you back, it's because he probably finds you physically unattractive. Instead of realizing LIFE IS F*CKING SHORT and maybe just trying to find someone to share your life with and trying to be happy is probably a good thing compared to a little pride, most US women would rather be alone than be "That woman" to her friends and coworkers and family. Ladies, feel free to lie about this if you want, but most women out there will cry if the engagement ring they get is too small or doesn't look right. Don't pretend HOW YOU GOT HIM isn't as much a blow to your ego as facing that the US guys you want maybe don't want you back.
Most people just want to be happy and come home to love and appreciation and comfort. If they find it somewhere else that's not traditional, so what? Is it making your light bill go up one cent for them to do it?
You know what's more disgusting than the actual limited cross section of actual green card digging manipulative whores out there? It's the kind of people who don't want other people to be happy for pretty much no good reason at all.
THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
THERE IS NO TOOTH FAIRY
GOOD THINGS DON'T HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE
YOU CAN'T GROW UP AND BE WHAT YOU WANT TO BE IN LIFE
YOU'VE GOT THE MAILMAN'S EYES KID
YOUR DADDY DIDN'T PULL OUT FAST ENOUGH AND HE'D SECRETLY RATHER HAVE A FERRARI AND YOUR MOMMY WOULD SECRETLY RATHER HAVE A VACATION HOME THAN HAVING YOU.
Why don't some folks out there just go outside an elementary school at recess and shout this at the kids. Because it's about as much sense and has about as much class as pissing on people, that you don't want anyway to start with, who look far and wide to be happy. | |
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