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 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:27:04 PM
Voting for McCain because you didn't like the Clinton Obama dispute is like drinking piss because the restaurant serves coke rather than pepsi.
 Freedom has no price

Joined: 6/13/2008
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Posted: 6/23/2008 11:27:08 PM
my opinon: obama and mccain are NUTS

goodbye united states of america............
 southernlass

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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:40:58 AM
a bit nomadic said:


But it's interesting that you say this: NOW that you are voting for McCain, you don't mind watching Fox, because they are supporting the candidate you support? Catering to ideas that you already hold? And you see the fact that they "lean to the right" as a guarantee of some kind of "balance" in reporting? How is that balanced?


FOX NEWS does tend to cater to ideas that I'm finding I now hold and support. The fact that they tend to lean to the right seems balanced to me after watching and comparing them to the rest of the news channels, which I perceive of as leaning to the left in an almost extreme way. Like I said, at one time I didn't notice this, but after the primary season, I notice it now. And I don't like it. When I get my daily taste of FOX, I almost feel like I'm back in the middle again after a dose of the others like CNN, MSNBC, etc.
 PhillyFellow

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Posted: 6/24/2008 1:22:29 AM
Sorry, I know most liberals would like to have fully Obama state-controlled media, as most of the other networks are, but the large majority of Americans who don't call themselves liberals would like to have at least one other point of view.

PhillyFellow
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 6/24/2008 3:35:58 AM

Sorry, I know most liberals would like to have fully Obama state-controlled media, as most of the other networks are, but the large majority of Americans who don't call themselves liberals would like to have at least one other point of view.



A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the opponent's position).[1] A straw man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted.[2]


Care to point out where anyone in this thread talked about the elimination of all competing media and the insitution of a state controled media system?

I'm amused because as far as I can tell fox viewers are the only ones who are saying that all other sources are questionable.
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:02:21 AM

Personally, I see that Fox news is more inclined to report the news and the facts.


ROTFLMAO. Man, that's about the funniest thing I've heard all day. Not unexpected considering where it's coming from, but you are funny.
 Irish Eyez

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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:13:12 AM
FOX NEWS: Lying to America?


AKA Faux News.

Gee...go figure.
 reggaefan

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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:17:42 AM
"we've created this cottage industry in which it pays to be un-objective. It pays to be subjective as much as possible. It's a great way to have your cake and eat it to. Criticize other people for not being objective. Be as subjective as you want. It's a great little racket. I'm glad we found it actually."
interveiw with Matt Labash, senior editor of the Rupert Murdoch owned Weekly Standard, in JournalismJobs.com may 2003

I can't even tell you how many shades of red I turned when I read that.
 nefarious101

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Posted: 6/24/2008 7:06:52 AM
appalled? According to a recent survey when watching Foxnews only 7 % of viewers were appalled. 22% were disgusted....34% were taken aback...the remaining were just flat out astounded. Of course most would consider this survey suspect since it was just a rounded off guess.
 show me please

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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:16:17 AM
"according to a recent survey"..........ha ha ha........by who, donald duck?


thanks for the laugh.


can i stop hearing about ron paul? he is in the group of non issues like global warming and dennis k trying to impeach the president. spare us.


if you dont like fox, tell me WHO is fairer??????????? (crickets.....wolf howl.....rushing stream..............wind whistling thru the trees...........yeah.....i thought so.)
 Romantic Heretic

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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:21:33 AM
Sigh. Not at my sharpest in the morning.

Who was that congressman who got caught fiddling around with the male pages?

When Fox reported on it, abracadabra! He's suddenly a Democrat.

I now refer to them as 'The Ministry of Truth'. We have always been at war with EastAsia.
 Crash1967

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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:26:17 AM
^^^ that would have been the rep from FL whose name i am having trouble coming up with in the moment...so many republican scandals that last time around its hard to keep up....toe tapping, male prostitutes, their own children.....
 show me please

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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:09:38 AM
its mark foley and WHEN did he become a democrat? he is here in south florida, in semi-disgrace. but now that you bring it up , it was an example of democratic dirty tricks......and using the media......the pages were 19........so they could be called "teenagers",,,,,,,,as can half of the us military, and a good number of the sorry uneducated, inexperieced, ignorant college students scared crapless of the possiblity of actually having to serve their country. ........this trick was pulled out, (it was an open secret on the hill) late in the summer to influence, and it did, the 2005 elections, this from the "liberal" democratic party......what a freaking joke.........meanwhile your democrtic congressman barney whats his name up in massachusetts has a gay roommate who is a CONVICTED felon. noone says boo ......... just another example of for democrats, anything goes. they are on our side, against the biggies right? wrong, new biggies own them, try hollywood and big media, and entertainment. if you are a republican tho, you better be squeaky clean.


hypocrites!
 Crash1967

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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:26:59 AM

hypocrites!


well you got that right since its the right that proports themselves as the party of "family values" which i guess means they value fear and hatred.....

unfortunately that is the only thing you got right, oh, i'll give you coming up with the name too but your facts are as skewed as the "news" organization you get your info from;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_Scandal

In 2004, Foley sent five e-mails to a 16-year-old former page from Monroe, Louisiana[16] sponsored by Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-LA). They were the first messages to be made public in the scandal.[17][18] Among other things, Foley asked for a photo of the page, his age and birthday, and what he wanted for a birthday present. Foley observed that another male page (to whom he had also written) was "in really great shape... i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey..." The page forwarded the e-mails to a colleague in Alexander's office, saying "this really freaked me out," and repeating the word "sick" 13 times in one row to describe the photo request. The page asked "if you can, please tell Rodney [Alexander] about this," and in addition, mentioned a female page who had been warned about a Congressman who "hit on" interns.[19][20][21]

ABC News reported on October 5 that in 2002, Foley e-mailed one page with an invitation to stay at the congressman's home in exchange for oral sex. The page, who was 17 years old at the time, declined the offer. The same report stated that he e-mailed another with a request for a photograph of his erect penis.[14] Another former page reports that he saw sexually explicit e-mails sent to one page from his page class of 2001-2002, and learned of "three or four" pages from that class who received similar e-mails.[22]

Instant messages

After the initial story on the e-mails, other pages contacted ABC and the Washington Post, providing transcripts of sexually explicit instant messaging (IM) conversations from 2003 that Foley had with two pages under the age of 18 at the time.[23][24][2] The Washington Post reported that it had received its copies of these same IMs from a page who had served on Capitol Hill with the two pages who received them.[25]

Another former page, Tyson Vivyan, has said that he received "sexually suggestive" messages from Foley in 1997, a month after he left the page program.[12] A page from the class of 1998 also reported receiving explicit IMs from Foley.[14] A page from the class of 2000 reported that he chatted with Foley during the Congressman's 2000 visit to the page dormitory (see Visits and Meetings below), and that afterwards, he began receiving e-mails and IMs from Foley, which became explicit immediately after his 18th birthday.[26]


...its ok show me.... the guy you voted for twice and called himself the master of low expectations has taught us all to have little expectations for the truth from his supporters....
 nefarious101

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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:40:31 AM
Rep. Laura Richardson D...The latest on the triple-default, single-foreclosure Democratic congresswoman from Long Beach: "Rep. Laura Richardson initially failed to disclose economic interests -- including a loan from a strip club owner -- when she served on the Long Beach City Council, public records show," .

Cold Cash Jefferson...looks like ranting about the other side is no going to work.
 Crash1967

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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:45:36 AM
^^^ do i need to post the Republican sex scandal sheet again?

once again you miss the point, Faux presents the repubs as holier than thou and the facts don't support that... you really don't want me to post that.....
 Freedom has no price

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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:48:55 AM
fox is only good for five things:

Eagles games
Hells kitchen
and kitchen nightmares
family guy
the simpsons
 tranquilo123

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Posted: 6/24/2008 11:21:00 AM
I watch Fox News to hear the extreme right wing propaganda straight from the source. I know that most of what they say are outright lies, slanted facts, and spurious thoughts, but I rather hear them saying, so that nothing is lost on translation, or interpretation. After I hear the news from Fox I know what their lines (and lies) are for the day.
 show me please

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Posted: 6/24/2008 11:30:34 AM
yeah, fox is all lies. no exceptions. only trust the nets and cnn and msnbc and headline news to show us the real news.


well, gotta go. gotta dig up a pumpkin patch for the great pumpkin, coming in the fall. after that, its santa and rudolph, and then the easter bunny, and then the tooth fairy, and then the princess will select me from millions to be her prince, and..........
 oddsrhuge

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Posted: 6/24/2008 11:39:43 AM
Until all of us stop looking at the "truth" as a Left and Right struggle, it doesn't matter which Lamestream broadcast we watch...They are all colored by the dictates of the MASSIVE corporations that own them. Integrity in current network journalism DOESN'T exist anymore. You might as well watch the TeleTubbies for your "Current event" information...

Peace
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:02:10 PM
Fox News has been available on Canadian cable since the end of 2004, and I'd love to see how many Canadian subscribers they have choosing it as part of their cable package up here.

My guess ? Not too many....

Unless they include it as part of the comedy channel package.

The entire concept of Fox is the antithesis of what Canada's media is about, quite frankly.
 Crash1967

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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:11:19 PM

well, gotta go. gotta dig up a pumpkin patch for the great pumpkin, coming in the fall. after that, its santa and rudolph, and then the easter bunny, and then the tooth fairy, and then the princess will select me from millions to be her prince, and..........


you do that and when you are all done do your research so you don't make yourself look like a fool.....just don't do your research while watching Faux......
 ErikSFBay

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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:12:22 PM
Unfortunately our TV news is no longer journalism.
It's not reporting, it's all pundits all the time.

This is not journalism. News organizations merely put up people with opinions, this way they take no responsibility for what's reported and don't have to do any of the real journalism.

what is this? Pundits? They don't know anymore than you or I. why would I care what they say? Now it's at the point where you have to have partisan pundits to offset other partisan pundits. We could sit around a bar and argue the same. In the end 99% of them are wrong or inconsequential.

this is what passes for political discourse in America? these pundits lie, fabricate, distort, take things out of context, make bad analogies, and pretend to be making fact based comments.

Where's the news?
 itechman42

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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:31:48 PM

this is what passes for political discourse in America? these pundits lie, fabricate, distort, take things out of context, make bad analogies, and pretend to be making fact based comments.


I can name a dozen posters on this forum (even those with whom I disagree) that would do a better job than what gets trotted out there.
 TheStefano

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Posted: 6/24/2008 1:37:01 PM
I went and looked at FOX news on the net, but also read the NY Times paper version daily. Really, I didnt see anything slanted or distorted in either one, all seemed pretty straight to me.

Any actual cases of slant or distortion of just the BS flying on this thread?
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