| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:05:18 AM |
the point of this thread is that Faux proports itself to be fair an balanced while it is clearly not. I don't hear any other outlet say they have the market cornered on being unbiased....
Fox isn't going to be popular with Liberals because it does report good news stories about the war and it also isn't afraid to go after Democrats..i.e. how many alphabet networks reported on Jefferson (D) Lousiana corruption criminal investigation? I remember years ago when I watched network news during the Berger investigation.. Bill Clintons former National Security Advisor stealing classified documents and misplacing them.. I bet Fox was the only Network to cover/discuss that debacle to any extent. If Berger were a Republican that story would have been 24/7 news around the clock on the alphabet networks. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:26:51 AM | [good news stories about the war] spoken like a true righty. about the closest thing to "good" news about any war is that it is over. Although even better news would be that war was avoided.
[" The conservative press is self-consciously conservative " says Grover Norquist "The liberal press is much larger, but at the same time sees itself as the establishment press. So it is conflicted. Sometimes it thinks it needs to be critical of both sides, to be nonpartisan."]
Grover Norquist, darling of the right, admitting that the perceived liberal media tries to cover both sides, while the conservative press does not. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:46:22 AM | MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19031423/
CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/04/jefferson/
ABC
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/06/jury_considerin.html
All reported the day he was indicted.
So once again, studies show increasing viewership of Fox decreases factual awareness. Meanwhile Fox sells itself as fair and balanced. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 6:13:20 AM | | If exposing bias is really so important...wht not expose it everywhere? FOXNEWS is one of many....sounds like the problem is deeper than just FOX bias here | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 6:41:13 AM | | can you show any studies that show watching any of the other networks causes people to believe misinformation? | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 6:55:06 AM | CBS...Dan Rather. We could do this all day...back and forth...back and forth. I think the deeper problem is, the left doesn't control it all anymore. They can't tolerate that...they lost control of what people see and hear.
The left reacts to FOXNEWS like a vampire does to sunlight. In comes the light and the thrashing and wailing starts. If you don't like FOXNEWS?...turn it off! Trying to get others to admit that they shouldn't watch what you can't stand is kinda strange. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:02:15 AM | If exposing bias is really so important...wht not expose it everywhere? FOXNEWS is one of many....sounds like the problem is deeper than just FOX bias here
Every media outlet is biased. Exposing bias is important when people live under the delusion that there is none. The unique issue with FOX News is that it happens to be the most biased, yet it actively promotes the illusion that it is the least so. What's worse, much of the viewership in the US buys it, hook, line, and sinker.
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CBS...Dan Rather.
What did CBS do with Dan Rather? If you want to go all day, I'm sure there will be plenty here to oblige you. Then we can all see who runs out of ammo first.
And if you think the "left" (scary!) controls the media, then you do not fully understand the media, IMO.
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:07:15 AM | I watch FOX, CNN, MSNBC, , the Big 3 network news & even C-SPAN all on a regular basis, due to the fact they are all clustered together on my cable package. I have certain favorites on ALL of these channels, & other times switch between commercials to see what's what on all.
Yes, FOX seems to have a slight right slant, but it is no more of a slant that some others have to the left, so in essence, largely due to FOX, I AM getting a fair & balanced view collectively.
FOX's round table is the best in the business. They hide their stripes respectfully, & debate respectfully & intelligently from the MIDDLE. They take bites from both extremes, as well as discuss topics the others wont touch. Thats a far cry from most other copy-cat roundtable formats which seem to pit an adversarial liberal, a neocon, & various other sundry agendists against eachother in a free-for-all Texas chainsaw death match. It's painful & embarrassing to watch, but I suppose ratings trump any & all other factors.
Of course Glenn Beck is a boob, but at the same time, so is Chris Mathews & Lou Dobbs. They are all agendists, but their shows are just that - SHOWS. All 3 round out the political agendist landscape nicely & appeal to the majority of beliefs somewhat equally . Without these FOX shows, the remaining slight left slant would be painfully obvious.
As far as the charge that FOX omits stories, at the same time they report stories that the others dont, so, depending on who's keeping score, the others are also guilty of omitting what FOX reports.
The Big 3 will report a story, but FOX won't, but at the same time FOX will report a story that the Big 3 wont. There's a huge collective advantage over FOX on that point as far as media saturation & spoon feeding certain news to the general public & omitting certain others. I dont appreciate someone picking the marshmallows out of my Lucky Charms as they see fit.
I'm sorry you're a lefty, but I'm not a righty. FOX fills a conspicuous gap & is a necessary piece of the puzzle for me. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:21:57 AM | | Got rid of him...Rather was nothing more than a racial leftist...why did they wait until he had an on-air melt down? Look who his replacement is. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 8:41:17 AM | | I don't watch Fox; it seems skewed and slanted to me. However, I will say that it is probably the only media outlet that does favor conservatives; us liberals have many times more outlets that favor our policies and candidates, and so I don't complain too much. I will say that I take issue with them representing themselves as unbiased, but whatever. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 3:06:07 PM |
BS...Dan Rather. We could do this all day...back and forth...back and forth. I think the deeper problem is, the left doesn't control it all anymore. They can't tolerate that...they lost control of what people see and hear.
Dan Rather screwed up and got fired.
Once again any studies that show watching CBS, NBC, ABC news cause people to know less information, because we're not going to go back and forth. You'll come up with some lame anecdotes, and I'll just continue to point out their lack of content. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 3:54:31 PM | http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ for serious news and for news with a fun twist I get it here http://freedomsphoenix.com/
For documentaries I go here --->http://www.documentarywire.com/
and for world affairs I use http://www.globalresearch.ca | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:19:25 PM |
All reported the day he was indicted. reported online.. not everyone in America owns a computer.. a greater % of people get their news from television.. how many minutes on air were devoted to the whole story and indictment ? if you know. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:44:24 PM | ^^reported online.. not everyone in America owns a computer..
do you realize that 80% of americans are now globally catagorized by an IQ test as moronic ? ( I personally find this number very low ) everything they know is from the TV. we as a nation have been so severely dumbed down I'm surprized we even know how to turn the damn tube on. some of the posts i read in here don't surprize me a bit and it's usually from the right that i see the most rediculous thinking. but they have the market cornered on moronic don't they ? Hannity , Medved , O'reilly et al.
Watch this video if you know how to copy and paste. otherwise it won't do you any good anyway.
http://www.documentarywire.com/stupidity/ | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:45:06 PM |
The Big 3 will report a story, but FOX won't, but at the same time FOX will report a story that the Big 3 wont. There's a huge collective advantage over FOX on that point as far as media saturation & spoon feeding certain news to the general public & omitting certain others. I dont appreciate someone picking the marshmallows out of my Lucky Charms as they see fit. as I recall the Big 3 would pick, (and probably still does) the marshmallows out and run with them for days 24/7 until I was so tired of seeing the same anti-Bush, anti-Republican story over and over.. and on 3 networks to boot.. so if I missed it on one I would get it on 2 others. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:55:20 PM |
everything they know is from the TV. we as a nation have been so severely dumbed down I'm surprized we even know how to turn the damn tube on. .. and a majority of people over age 50 do not get their news from computers/online.. they are watching the same similar slant on 3 Big networks I think that TV networks are dumbing down America.. much of it is not "news" but rather gossip and speculation with an agenda that is not hidden. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 10:43:01 PM |
reported online.. not everyone in America owns a computer.. a greater % of people get their news from television.. how many minutes on air were devoted to the whole story and indictment ? if you know.
Uh huh, wow those are some mobile Goal posts! How about this, do YOU know how many minutes were dedicated to it? Perhaps you have a count? or are you making assumptions? You've already admitted you don't actually watch those channels.
Here is ABC by the way...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=013_1181145185
Discussion of it on MSNBC
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&fg=rss&vid=1aed0fd5-1d1a-4bb2-ba5c-b4a98c7c279b
aaaaaaaand CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/06/08/foreman.jefferson.in.court.cnn
Funny how fox never confuses corrupt democrats for republicans.
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/26/2008 11:46:51 PM | I'm reminded of this by discussion on another thread, but if any of us here really have an issue with "news" organizations reporting in an imbalanced way (whether "right" or "left") we can thank President Reagan, for eliminating the Fairness Docrtine in news reporting.
Edit: BOTH parties now have an interest in not reintroducing "equal time," although there are some "liberals" who do advocate for its reintroduction. But generally, it's in the interest of partisanship to keep it OUT. But media partisanship is NOT in the interest of the American public ...and its OUR interest that SHOULD be served by the FCC, as well as our "news" agencies operating under their guidelines.
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 4:55:19 AM | We should also ask how many MSM has ever retracted a story proven to be wrong when it involved the Republican Party or the reporting of some Massacre who turned out to be fabrications?
Notice also that the MSM will always name the party affiliation of a elected official and his religious connection when they talk about a republican.
The Democrats seem to get a free pass.
Would the Fairness Doctrine put an end to this Practise?
How would someone like Keith O. survive with the Fairness Doctrine? | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 5:00:21 AM |
We should also ask how many MSM has ever retracted a story proven to be wrong when it involved the Republican Party or the reporting of some Massacre who turned out to be fabrications?
Actually it's fox that never issues retractions, in fact they brag about it.
The Democrats seem to get a free pass.
It's pretty obvious you don't watch other news organizations, did you miss the clips I just showed were they talk about William Jefferson being corrupt and a democratic party member.
Fox on the other hand has repeatedly called scandal ridden Republicans.... Democrats. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 6:18:45 AM | | I have seen Keith Olbermann apologize for simple errors in factual reporting. He has some fluff in his show, but he seems to be the most honest ans strightforward reporter I've seen. He isn't Anti~Rush, that would be closer to Mike Malloy, though, at least Mike tells the truth. He is a bit radical, even for me. But KO is Godsend! | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:03:59 AM | | I accidently viewed one of Keith Olbermann programs several months ago he was ranting and raving spewing hatred into the camera I think it was meant to get folks riled up with partisanship.. it was such a turn off and I wondered how much domestic violence can be attributed to viewing such anger on television. I'm always worried about the little people (children) being exposed to programs their parents watch. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:14:08 AM |
What makes me sick with Fox is I notice anytime there is bad news towards John McCain or the Bush Administration, Fox barely covers it and you have to listen to the other news channels to hear about it.
Really? Wow! Do you think Fox has a monopoly on this kind of reporting? You don't think the other "news" agencies maybe shade their reporting the other way, do you? It's time to wake up and smell the coffee folks. Every, and I mean EVERY, "news" organization is leaning in one direction or another and it doesn't matter if it's funded by Murdoch or Soros. Anyone who thinks they are getting the whole and complete truth from their "news" organization is a complete fool. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:49:04 AM | | I'm a conservative and I stopped watching Fox News right after Bush was elected. Until then I thought they were pretty balanced, but man did they change. I don't think it matters what we are Rep, Dem, Ind or whatever. I think we all would like fair news so we can make informed decisions. With news media and politicians working together putting on a show, it's almost impossible to get important news that affects you and I. Even CNN is getting to be a tabloid news media. Some of the what they consider news people should know is laughable. And something that maybe important, they'll spend 30 seconds on it just so they can go back and say, there we reported that. I think right now finding good information is right here on the net. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 11:25:56 AM | | Last ratings I saw has Fox at number 7 and MSNBC at 27. I think people are growing weary of watching the main News stations report positive on Democrats and negative on Republicans. Maybe the majority find FOX more fair and unbiased even those who think it is right leaning. Ratings are ratings for what it's worth. | |
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