| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 11:34:42 AM | | why else would bush an his croonies go on fox. he nos he will get softballs throw at him. i just wonder how fox can say far an balance with a straight face. bill fair /sean fair / britt hum/this is a joke, | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 2:31:21 PM | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4221376.ece
If Fox would have reported this first it would have been called a "Lying to America."
But it is from the UK ... let's see if the MSM Ever bring this to their News outlets.
Bet it will never see the light of day. If I recall the MSM reported something about Iraq in regard to the amount of Casualty was down.. But instead of reporting this as good news ... the report was about how Cemetery workers were feeling the "Pinch " . | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 2:35:22 PM | The Left biased News Outlets are getting caught with their britches down and that is why stations like MSNBC and others are now, at present, with Ratings running 27, 30th, etc. while FOX is at 7th and gaining.
Would this be 'Middle America' making their Voices heard?!! | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 3:42:40 PM | No, it means that more Americans are doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and going 'lalalalalalala! I can't hear you."
Just like any other human beings when they're frightened. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:46:16 PM | Ok, I'm going to try my best to be on topic today.
I was listening to Bill O'Reilly Radio Factor of the FOX News Channel today over lunch (and the Philly guy was in for him because Bill doesn't work too many Fridays anymore). For everyone who thinks that only one side is presented, look up the dialogue of today's radio broadcast of the Radio Factor. You'll see that the Philly guy did an entire segment dismissing the oddball rumors he gets everyday in his email about Obama. He pointed out that anyone with an internet connection can start any garbage they want.
You might not like the conservative bent, but FOX News and its opinion shows are definitely more fair and balanced than anything else out there. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/28/2008 1:38:34 PM | re: acadien1755
I read that article you posted. Wow, what a great story, it offers no actual facts, opinion based on nothing, and a nice insult towards the french.
Thank you for proving the obvious, that biased journalism is not an American monopoly.
I also like how the story goes against what the American military is saying about Afghanistan. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/28/2008 1:41:38 PM | Anyone who thinks that any of these news (?) channels is unbiased is re-tarded. They are all heavily biased. But the biggest slant is shared by all three stations, and it is not the republicans or the democrats. The almighty dollar is the biggest slanter of these organizations. There are two things that a station needs to survive, viewership and advertising. When a station does a story they need to keep both the audience and the advertisers in mind. A station will not air a story that will offend it's advertising clients, and it will look for stories that please the advertizers. They will also aligne themselves with their idea of which way their audience leans. If any of these groups came across a story that General Moters was using aborted babies to make catalitic converters, I doubt any of these three would be jumping up and down to break the story.
But Fox News (?) is by far the most biased. And simply using a poor illusion of fair and balanced does not change that. They have their balanced debate by claming one person is a liberal, but this does not make it fair or balanced. Let's look at Hannity and Colmes, you have Sean Hannity who is a big good looking man with a strong voice representing the right, and then you have Alan Colmes a soft spoken uber nerd on the left. And as for Geraldo he is not left at all, he is a media whore, Geraldo would report a story about his own mother being a devil worshipping communist lesbian, if it would give him higher ratings.
What I find amusing is that all the posters on the left claim that they are all biased to an extent, but rightwingers tend to either A claim Fox has no bias and they are fair and balanced, or B since the rest of the media is liberal, then America needs Fox to balance it out. If you believe A then you are an ignorant fool, just look at the people hired at fox with direct ties to the republicans, or fox workers that have been hired by the Bush administration. And if you believe B then you are part of the problem why American politics is in such a disaray with partinsinship. These people probably look at the world in a winner and loser, good vs evil, you are either with us or against us mentallity. These people would rather have the loudest voice, over the best facts.
I don't see CNN or MSNBC leaning very far to the left, and many times it is obvious they have a corporate agenda (corporate agendas are usually right wing).
Now another way to look at a news distributers bias is not just by looking at the stories they report,but the stories they do nat report as well.
Pretty much all media is biased (even my beloved CBC). If you want to read something that is not slanted pick up a math book, if you want to see something on TV without a bias, play a game of Tetris, pretty much everything else has a bias. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 1:46:46 PM |
Would this be 'Middle America' making their Voices heard?!! yes, the fact that the alphabet networks ratings are sinking is because middle America is becoming wise to the bias shown on those networks.. they would be wise to consolidate and just have one bias network. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 1:58:29 PM | Let's see the leader in the Presidential Race,
How has Fox treated him?
- a paid FOX commentator accidentally confused "Obama" with "Osama" and then joked on the air about killing Obama
- a FOX anchor said a playful fist bump by Barack and Michelle Obama could be a "terrorist fist jab
- FOX called Michelle Obama "Obama's baby mama"—slang for an unmarried mother of a man's child, and a clear attempt to associate the Obamas with negative stereotypes about black people.
if you think that Fox is fair and balanced, you're just not very bright. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 8:57:49 PM | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/three-us-soldiers-killed-as-violence-in-iraq-escalates-854334.html
If Fox would have reported this first it would have been called a "Lying to America."
Believe it or not, the British press are also bias. The Times is extremely right wing and owed by, wait for it....... Rupert Murdock, the owner of 20th century fox.
Check out the above link for a better view of the current status in Iraq, Afghanistan and the world in general. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/28/2008 9:15:37 PM | | The Brits also have a left wing press not owned by Murdock. Have you ever listened to Murdock speak? He's actually a very bright, intelligent man.. very inspiring to young people. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 9:54:24 PM | ^^^^^^^ Eh? 
The Brits also have a left wing press not owned by Murdock. Have you ever listened to Murdock speak? He's actually a very bright, intelligent man.. very inspiring to young people.
Yeah, I know....I live in the UK. 
Bright has he may be, does that give him the right to try and influence public opinion? | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/28/2008 11:21:18 PM | Bright has he may be, does that give him the right to try and influence public opinion?
You try to influence people's opinions by voicing your own. Do you have the right to do that? Just because he has millions of dollars and can broadcast opinions around the world does not lessen his right to do so anymore than your right to do so. And before you go off and say I'm only defending him because of his conservative leanings, I would also defend the right of Soros to voice his opinions.
Which brings up the question, why is no one in this thread squealing like a stuck pig about Soros and his money that is broadcasting very liberal and left leaning stories all around the world? If you're going to rant about one person and his influence over public opinion, then you need to rant about his counterpart doing the same thing.
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Posted: 6/28/2008 11:21:31 PM | | Did you ever notice that sometimes Fox will report some bad press about republicans from other networks and newspapers, then at the end of the story they provide a source that disclaims it? The others will still run with a story even if it's been disclaimed. Check their sources. They rarely give a story that can't be affirmed and if it can't they say so. Also, the most hated Fox people are not journalists, but commentators. This means it's their opinions that are the heart of their show, not the news. If they get you riled up, that's what they were trying to do. If they are wrong all the time, they would not get the viewers they have. No one wants BS. Many Dems and libs go on Fox, and watch Fox. The other stations son't have the same balance in that respect. I think Dems just watch it so they can come up with new opposition points when their old ones fail. Fox always try to have both parties involved in the debate. They don't let anyone including Republicans claim opinion as fact. With an open mind at the start, you'd see that, but open mindedness is not a liberal strong point. They would shut Fox and Limbaugh down for not having their views. Rush, as pompous as he is right 98% of the time according to an independent fact finding group. Bet you hate that. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/28/2008 11:25:35 PM |
They would shut Fox and Limbaugh down for not having their views. Rush, as pompous as he is right 98% of the time according to an independent fact finding group. Bet you hate that.
How dare you bring facts and logic into a thread such as this? The moderators should throw you right out on your butt!
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Posted: 6/28/2008 11:32:34 PM | | I think you illustrate very well the fact that republicans and conservatives are the most hated people in the world in the eyes of liberals and Dems. You put us below terrorists and murderers. You seem to be a good communicator, but your view of evil so distorted by your political views that it makes it hard to take you seriously. I just can't do that. there are good dems and liberals, and I listen with an open mind. If that respect is not returned in kind, there is no debate, no reason for discussion. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/29/2008 5:37:15 AM |
Bright has he may be, does that give him the right to try and influence public opinion? Last I checked there is no law against influencing public opinion.. if this was the case then alot of Professors/Educators in Liberal colleges would be fired. I have no problem with influencing public opinion.. it's when someone wants to suppress a network such as Fox News.. that bothers me. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 1:28:34 PM | I was looking for this thread when I saw it brought back to page 1.
I was watching when Chris M. made that remark and remember thinking OMG. How pathetic!
Truly sad I was when the announcement came about Russert! He was wayyy cool! I watched all the shows which contained his past. Awesome man he was indeed!
MSNBC has fallen to 27th and maybe lower now in the ratings. They just don't 'get it'. Middle America is not the Keith O.s of this world and are offended by his hateful/spite filled reporting.
FOX covers all the news. The stories which have nothing to do with politics and when it is politics, at least they have both sides on it. Plus, Dennis Miller segment is hilarious. Luv it! and the 'Red Eye'... that too!
Laura Inghram is giving ole Keith boy a real run! It's telling on his reporting too. He can hardly contain (most times he doesn't) his frustration that he's being beat.
It's no wonder FOX is up and coming.. Rising head n shoulders above the others. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/30/2008 1:49:53 PM | | its at the point where chris matthews calls them "barack" and "mc cain", and any woman named michelle he calls, "michelle obama." keith olbermann has only 3 segments to his show now, " hate o reilly", "hate bush" and "here is the latest in democrat land." i challenge anyone here to show me which outlet is fairer than fox news, it truly is "fair and balanced." but you out there are the "experts"....im from missouri............show me who out there is FAIRER than fox. | |
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| FOX NEWS: Lying to America?
Posted: 6/30/2008 2:31:40 PM |
flyguy51:
Every media outlet has a bias of some sort. It's quite simple, really-- if you cannot notice the bias, it simply means that its bias is the exact same as your own.
That deserved to be repeated, for emphasis - great post!
nashtnt:
What we have a problem with is people just not admitting that FOX is very slanted to the right and cherry pick what they cover to push a right wing agenda. I myself watch FOX along with other news, but they are so in the tank for the republican agenda it gets laughable at times that they will still say they are fair and balanced.
They always barely cover or don't cover any negative news towards the Bush administration or John McCain, yet they are relentless in covering anything negative they can come up with on Obama and beating it to death 24/7.
nash, if you'll go back and read through the thread, you'll find several different posters from the right acknowledging that Fox slants to the right. On the other hand, what I notice is exactly the opposite - NONE of you liberals seem to be willing to admit that the OTHER mainstream media is quite biased to the left. From this thread it would appear those who are more willing to admit the biases are actually the right-leaning posters. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 3:49:08 PM | Nice try Dallas, but here is my full post from post #10 on this thread where I clearly state Msnbc is bias towards the left. You can accuse me of being liberal all you want but I'm a registered independent that likes to have both sides of the story heard! Might want to read it again!
My quote:
Fox Bias gets worse by the day! Now they have another conservative hosting a show, Laura Ingram "Just In". They are so flooded with conservatives its a joke to ever say its fair and balanced. I watch Fox, Msnbc, and Cnn and flipping back and forth you can see the bias so much easier. Msnbc is definitely bias towards the left. Cnn tends to be the closest to the center of news .
What makes me sick with Fox is I notice anytime there is bad news towards John McCain or the Bush Administration, Fox barely covers it and you have to listen to the other news channels to hear about it. I've noticed them blantantly do this repeatedly and its nothing more than "cherry picking" news that they want to cover that favors the right wing agenda. At least the other news stations are covering all the news even if it doesn't favor a candidate and not hiding it like Fox does! Also they are only running support John McCain ads, while nothing on Obama. Real fair and balanced | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 4:54:53 PM | I try to watch both FOX and MSNBC... to get both sides.
Today is a prime example of what I get to see:
FOX covered the following:
Politics
The murdered female soldier
The helicopter mid-air crash
The apartment complex fire
The missing VT teen
The floods
What the Markets are doing and why
The list goes on and on...
MSNBC covered:
Past and Present Obama speeches
The unity speech of Obama and Clinton
I've made my decision where most of my 'News' TV will be. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 7:51:34 PM | | Fox is not news, no matter how many times you tell yourself it is. I can say I'm a millionaire, I can tell everyone I see that I am rich, but I'm not. Faux news is misinformation and they are a large reason why so many of the posters here don't understand politics or the economy. If you get your news from faux, it is like drinking alcohol when you are dying of thirst. It might satisfy you temporarily, but you sill die of thirst! | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 8:11:17 PM | Believe half of what you see, and a third of what you hear.
All news is "faux" news. You see if the story wasn't alarming, people would be doing other things and they would lose advertising dollars. You have to remember that guys like Rush limbaugh, Sean hannity, Bill orally and Glen Beck are not and do not claim to be Journalists. They are nothing of the sort, they do interpret the news the way they see it.
Now if you watch the actual reporting, they are all saying the same things. | |
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