| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/16/2008 6:39:54 PM | ^^^You got that right. If you go to sportsnet and write a short piece (25 words or less) on how you think the illustrious blue and white will do this year, your name will be entered into a draw for free tickets.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/16/win_maple_leafs_tickets/
Good deal by Murray today if he pulls it off.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/16/Khabibulin_Potential_Sen/ | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/16/2008 6:46:28 PM | are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
I haven't been happy since '67 and I wasn't even born that year....The have been under a dry spell like the Red Sox. Please Toronto!!! Bring the cup home before I die!!! | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 4:02:31 PM | msg 22:
Side note: I would do anything in my power to prevent the Leafs from ever using Wozniewski again.
your powers must have worked:
Wozniewski signs with Blues
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/17/wozniewski_blues/
Some of the blogs are funny down below the story.:
eg.:-As a Habs fan I will miss him playing in Toronto!
-One less useless defender to worry about on our blue line.
-enjoy St. Louis -you just picked up a top 4 defenceman...in the AHL....
Doesn't sound like he'll be missed too much. Maybe St. Louey can do something with him. The guy's like I said before, got great physical size. Just seems to have brains like cement when it comes to making decisions out there. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 5:25:49 PM | There is a God!
haha.
Now if only I could learn to use my powers for other good deeds, like ridding the world of Daniel Alfredsson. This is something many people might pay to acheive. I think i'm going to be a rich woman.
In all seriousness, good for Woz. I mean, he's a bonehead, but he might prove beneficial to a team like the Blues. Just like we already discussed, he doesn't have the decision making skills to be a successful player in the NHL. (By that I mean the competitive NHL. haha) All the best to him, but i'll be celebrating his departure tonight, for sure! | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 6:15:19 PM | Q: How many times have the modern era Ottawa Senators beaten the Leafs in a playoff series ?.... A: I don't believe it has ever happened (an 0-fer, if there ever was)...so I can't possibly pay any attention to any dribble a Sens fan may post here...
I still like the off season moves so far. Again, time will tell how effective (or ineffective) that they may be.
GoLeafsGo! | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 6:34:35 PM | ^^^ o they will go all right, home that is before the playoffs start in April/09 
It will be 4th consecutive season without playoffs for the leafs and mark my words on that.
See you in April  | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 7:31:43 PM | Vindicator.. Little tough for the Sens to beat the Leafs in the playoffs when the Leafs haven't made them for the last 3 years.. The question is when is the last time the Leafs won a playoff series with a healthy Sundin.. First round in 2002..
Ott 13 years straight of playoffs..including 2006 Eastern Conf champs.. Tor still talks about remember that year when we almost made the finals (1993) 15 years ago for heavens sake..
Best Tor could do:
2007 nope
2006 nope
2005 nope
2004 quarter final
2003 out in first round
2002 semi final
2001 quarter final
2000 quarter final
1999 Semi final
1998 nope
1997 nope
1996 out in first round
1995 out in first round
1994 semi final | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 7:39:05 PM | "We may be taking a step back to take three steps forward," Leafs general manager Cliff Fletcher said bluntly
But with no significant acquisitions yet for the roster to be delivered to new coach Ron Wilson, Fletcher knows he isn't in a position to oversell optimism, either.
"You are going to see a team that is younger and a team that is going to play a very enthusiastic and aggressive style," Fletcher said. "But we're not kidding anybody. We have a long way to go to become the Detroit Red Wings."
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2008/07/17/6182966-sun.html
Looks like it is going to be some more lean years ahead before it gets better.. Are you all willing to wait ?? | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 7:45:53 PM | ^^^2004 there was no hockey
94 western conference final
93 western conference final
Big deal. You've made the playoffs 13 straight years and we haven't. Still haven't won any Cups for all your troubles. We're not going to miss the playoffs this year. You can take that to the bank.
We've improved our club. We'll still be playing come playoff time with or without Sundin. Wilson will work these guys till their tongues are hangin' off the ice. They will be one of the hardest working hockey clubs in the east because Wilson and Finger and hagman and even Cujo will bring that over from the west. There's no nights off in the western conference.
Spring will see the Leafs in the dance. Be there or be square. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/17/2008 8:44:40 PM | I hate this Sens vs. Leafs stuff. Like..what is the point of coming into a forum discussing the Leafs and their offseason to bash them? I have no reason to go into some Sens forum and bash them because quite frankly it's not worth my time, but also because that's just idiotic and screams of an immaturity expected only of kindergarteners.
But...since you came into a LEAFS forum with your anti-Leafs and pro-Sens attitude, I can educate you yet again, like I always have to.
I won't even get into the acheivements the Leafs had in the 50+ years that Ottawa could not even support an NHL team.
Let's talk about what has happened since they have been back in the league:
You boast about the amount of times the Sens have had a post-season. Before that, they were the worst team in the league four years running. There's something to be proud of. The number of times the Leafs have been last in the league since Ottawa got a franchise? None.
How about that great first over all draft pick in 1993 by the name of Alexander Daigle? One of the worst "draft busts" in sports history.
What about the declartion of bankruptcy in 2003? Good times!
How about the fact that every time they have met the Leafs in the post-season since the franchise was re-established, they have lost? That's fun.
What about having it all come down to one game after blowing a record breaking start, in 07-08 to decide whether they'd make the playoffs again? That was an exemplary display of superior sportsmanship if i've ever seen it (note sarcasm)
Anyway, the bottom line is that you can claim the Senators are better than the Leafs, but you'd only be proving yourself a fool. Every team has it's struggles. Every team has it's skeletons in the closet. Ottawa is a new franchise, and they've had their share of stupid decisions and tough times. Ottawa "fans" don't realize this because few of them were around when the Sens weren't winning.
At the end of the day, when all you have to pride yourself on is making it to the finals and losing in '06, only to follow up with one of the most disappointing seasons I could imagine to follow such a run, followed by being swept in the first round of the post-season, you don't have much, do you?
The Leafs have this epic quest to better them selves, a desire to fight to win, claw their way back to the top, etc. while the Senators are completely satisfied with the status quo as was evident by their lack of enthusiasm, discipline and desire, presented in 07-08, and the sad display at the trade deadline, as well as little movement in the offseason.
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 12:46:48 AM | Potentially more than 10 guys coming to camp this year that could play defence if you include Walser and Sifers of the Marlies who probably both deserve a good look at camp as well as this other guy from sweden with the contract issue Frogren. So if Mccabe won't go and Kaberle won't go, then that makes Kubina the man probably still on the go. I'm figuring McCabe will have a bit of a bounce back year myself. Just a hunch.
"""...Wilson said it is not impossible that the 18-year-old Schenn could crack his lineup. "The player has to be mature in his age group to survive," said Wilson, who carried 19-year-old blueliner Marc-Edward Vlasic in San Jose. "If a player is ready, his age doesn't matter."""
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"""...I'll be very demanding that the players pay attention to details and that's what the first two months will be all about," Wilson said. "A lost detail is a lost game. If you don't pay attention to them, you'll find yourself not getting a lot of ice time. But I don't anticipate a problem. We'll go through a process and it will be rough at times, but it should be fine."
The Leafs will have a host of new faces, but Wilson faced a similar situation in San Jose where as many as 16 new players were part of a turnaround season that saw the team make the playoffs the year after a disappointing season.
...Wilson's successful teams in San Jose and Washington were noted for their tenacity with two-way hockey. Both clubs were consistently difficult to play against because of a system of backchecking that was mandatory if a player was to maintain serious ice time..."""
http://tinyurl.com/5ck454
(Nice to see some writers at the Star actually talk hockey)
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Lots of bodies coming to camp. Here's a slight variation on one depth chart:
Left Wing Center Right Wing
A. Ponikarovsky N. Antropov A. Steen
J. Tlusty M. Stajan J. Blake
N. Hagman M. Grabovski* J. Mayers
M. Bell D. Moore B. Devereaux
R. Hollweg T. Stapleton J. Williams*
K. Newbury A. Foster* N. Kulemin*
R. Earl* T. Ruegsegger* B. Ondrus
C. Didomenico* D. Mitchell*
Defensemen:
T. Kaberle B. McCabe
P. Kubina J. Finger
C. Colaiacovo A. Stralman
I. White J. Frogren (E)
S. Kronwall L. Schenn*
D. Vorobiev* K. Holzer*
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Sifers* and Walser*
Goaltenders
V. Toskala
C. Joseph
J. Pogge*
J. Reimer*
* rookies
mostly from:
http://forecaster.canada.com/faceoff/hockey/depthchart.cgi?Tor
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Roster shore looks a lot different from the one that come home from out west last January with their tail between their legs. Not a real overpowering front line there. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 5:05:47 PM | again...First place Conference winning Ottawa Senators (or whatever laurels you want to rest on)...have NEVER beaten the team that you pointed out that everyone else beats... hmmm... I guess the Sens SUPER SUCK then...
Secondly.... How many Stanley Cup Championship banners hang in the Ottawa rafters? Fewer than in Toronto...and the most recent being Eons older than 67'....
I really have nothing else to say on the subject... hehehe | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 5:50:00 PM | slysterling as big of a Leaf fan as I am I am hoping the Leafs do stink this year as I fee; the only way we are going to get back to the top of the leauge is get the #1 Pick and use it to draft John Traveras as the building block of the forward crop just like Luke Scheen is the centerpiece in rebuilding the D crop
if we can get get the #1 pick and cler some cap space then we can try to do the pens did with Crosby when they tried to build a core around him except instead mid 30's guys like Palffy, Leclair and Recchi we'll have guys in their 20's like Havlat, Gaborik and Afinaganov to choose from not to mention Zettberg is up at seasons end as is hossa and these are just some of the big names.
point being it may be best to suck this year and start making a run in 09-10 | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:15:47 PM |
we'll have guys in their 20's like Havlat, Gaborik and Afinaganov to choose from not to mention Zettberg is up at seasons end as is hossa and these are just some of the big names.
I'll admit it...and as a Leafs fan, I might suffer a bit for saying what i'm about to say, but here it goes:
I like Buffalo. I know, I know. I have admired their style for the past few seasons, though, and have to say that I think Maxim Afinogenov is one of the most underrated young guys out there. He plays with such style...has hands like Hossa, and his stick, I swear, is covered in double sided tape. I think his case is one if just ending up on a team where he can't thrive.
The Sabres have other (much younger) guys that are putting more points on the board. Guys like Pominville, Kotalik, Vanek kind of overshadow what Afinogenov is capable of. When he is at his best, and given the opportunity, he can play like a Hossa, but for a much smaller cost. I'd personally love to see him as a Leaf...put him on a line with another big Russian and I bet he'd thrive.
PS: Canadianstud, not that it matters, but that fact that you brought him up kind of makes me really like you! haha. I say Afinogenov to people in these parts and they stare like a deer caught in headlights. They have no concept of anything outside of the Battle of Ontario! | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:46:04 PM | lucretia21 I know what you mean and I just, looked at your profile, you poor girl your a leaf fan in ottawa you must get it BAD from sens fans all the time huh? O well take solace in the fact that their team is crubling and curmbling FAST first chara left, then they traded for stillman and Comadore and they left, now Redden is gone, emery fell back to earth this year and now he is gone, Gerber sucks and Vermette wants out and Mezeraos isn't signed
The sens ae a 1 line team and they are about to fall HARD to the bottom of the NHL, maybe not this year but soon enough.
as for having no concept outside of the Battle of Ontario! you'd be amazed at how much I know regarding not only the Leafs but hockey in General, you could say I am a hockey geek. | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 9:41:56 PM |
you poor girl your a leaf fan in ottawa you must get it BAD from sens fans all the time huh?
I live about ten minutes from Scotiabank Place, so yeah, I hear about it a lot. Fact of the matter is that most of them know very little about the sport, so I can definitely hold my own against them, in these parts.
Honestly? I'd rather spend the rest of my life trying to educate Ottawa fans, than spend another fall in Europe, like I did last year. Imagine living in the UK, and trying to talk about hockey with anyone? It was worse than trying to talk hockey with an Ottawa fan! (Never thought there was a worse fate for a hockey fan)
as for having no concept outside of the Battle of Ontario! you'd be amazed at how much I know regarding not only the Leafs but hockey in General, you could say I am a hockey geek.
No offense, but I don't think i'd be that amazed. (Though maybe impressed...intrigued.??) haha. I consider myself quite a hockey geek, as well. I follow hockey pretty religiously. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:05:13 PM | I don't take offense to it at all infact I am impressed that you seem to be as passionate about the sport as you are most women that I have met either HATE the sport (because apperently it is "to violent" or don't know enough about the sport to really understand it.
this is only my experiences of course and I could be completely wrong in regards to female view of the sport.
also wanted you two things
WHY did you even ATTEMPT to talk hockey with people in the UK?
and 2nd other then the failed attempt to find someone in the UK to talk hockey with (which I assume failed bad)
how was the UK? is it nice? it is on my list of places to visit. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/19/2008 4:41:50 PM | All I know is I wouldn't drive the 100 km's east from my home to see the Leafs but have driven that far to get on a plane to go to Ottawa and see the Senators play....two different times last year (4 games in total) and plan on doing that again...
IMHO, the leafs won't win one game against Ottawa this year....
On the Sundin front....if I was a leaf fan and by extension a Sundin fan I'd be madder than hell if he signs anywhere but Toronto now, when last year you Leaf fans could have got more than the Thrashers got from Pittsburgh for Hossa.....Which would have made the leafs INSTANT contenders this coming season.... | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/21/2008 6:21:37 PM | you think the sens are good enough to beat the Leafs 6 times? thats laughable The leafs aren't gonna be good but you got to remember had it ot been for the 15-2 start last year the sens would have been in the lottery for stamkos and they have only gotten worse this summer, you might not think it but redden is a BIG loss and Gerber can't carry the load himself
the sens will finish in 8th this year and depending on what happens with Mezeraos and Vermette maybe not even make the post season. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/22/2008 8:39:22 AM | Flyers went from 56 points one year to the Eastern final the next.
Sabres went from Presidents trophy winners to missing the playoffs the next season.
Habs went from missing the playoffs one year to being regular season eastern champs the next. Habs were picked to miss the playoffs.
Canes won the Cup three seasons ago and haven't been back to the playoffs since. Same with the Oilers.
Flyers were picked to miss the playoffs. They made it to the Conference finals.
Bruins were picked to miss the playoffs. They made it.
Caps were picked to miss the playoffs. They won their division.
Habs were picked to miss. They finished first.
Sens were expected to march their way to the Cup. Instead they limped to the finish line and squeaked their way into the playoffs based only on their fast start way back in October.
With lots of folks predicting the leafs to be mediocre at best this year, i'm looking forward to watching Wilson work. Funny the folks mentioning the Sabres. After I posted that lineup the other night, I tried to edit the darn thing about 5 times to fix the spacing. The more I looked at the offensive sets, the more the roster reminded me of the Sabres about three years ago. Wilson and Ruff have similar coaching styles. Look after all the little things and the big picture will look after itself.
The habs won the Eastern crown for the regular season and really all they had was a team mostly full of AHL Hamilton Bulldogs playing with a lot of hustle and a team concept. Bruins made it to the playoffs despite incredible injuries. They should have been out of the race by Xmas with all their injuries. And who, honestly, predicted the Flyers to go to the eastern final??? Especially after watching the leafs against them in the home and home series with 3 weeks to go in the season.
I wouldn't count the Leafs upcoming season as a wash just yet. When you get to be my age you start taking things one year at a time. By the time Tavares supposedly leads the Leafs to the promised land I'll be on canada pension. Rolling 4 lines as a team can carry you a long way in the salary cap era. The east is a crapshoot. 13 of the 15 teams were still in the playoff hunt with ten days to go in the season. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/23/2008 9:02:23 AM | Iquote'll admit it...and as a Leafs fan, I might suffer a bit for saying what i'm about to say, but here it goes:
I like Buffalo. I know, I know. I have admired their style for the past few seasons, though, and have to say that I think Maxim Afinogenov is one of the most underrated young guys out there. He plays with such style...has hands like Hossa, and his stick, I swear, is covered in double sided tape. I think his case is one if just ending up on a team where he can't thrive.
The Sabres have other (much younger) guys that are putting more points on the board. Guys like Pominville, Kotalik, Vanek kind of overshadow what Afinogenov is capable of. When he is at his best, and given the opportunity, he can play like a Hossa, but for a much smaller cost. I'd personally love to see him as a Leaf...put him on a line with another big Russian and I bet he'd thrive.
PS: Canadianstud, not that it matters, but that fact that you brought him up kind of makes me really like you! haha. I say Afinogenov to people in these parts and they stare like a deer caught in headlights. They have no concept of anything outside of the Battle of Ontario!
geez you know a lot about hockey for a .....leafs fan.dont get to to many games i figure. | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/23/2008 12:17:42 PM | I have a box at Scotiabank Place, so catch the Leafs and Sens games, when I can. I haven't had the opportunity to see the Leafs play once at the ACC, sadly, though I was living an hour drive from there for five years. I have seen them play in Boston, Pittsburgh and Philly, though.
Sadly, I mostly stay stuck to my LeafsTV most of the season. (Game time, I bring up the NHL Centre Ice channel and watch 6 games simultaneously. haha) | |
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| are you happy with the Leafs offseason so far?
Posted: 7/23/2008 1:02:07 PM | Sadly, I mostly stay stuck to my LeafsTV most of the season. (Game time, I bring up the NHL Centre Ice channel and watch 6 games simultaneously. haha)
i still cant get past the fact that you are a leafs fan...sorry.seems like a lot of wasted hockey knowledge. | |
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