| What does the future hold for us all
Posted: 6/26/2008 5:19:35 AM | There is also the likelyhood that democracy will spread like wildfire around the world now with the use of computers and the internet. Even today, if I so chose to, I can imerse myself in the political to- ings and fro-ings of America. That I do not have a vote there, nor you have one here in the UK, is also something that will change. Votes for all!!!!
Since what happens there affects us here, we should get to vote.
My vote here in the UK can now affect what happens in Germany, France etc. as well as lots of former eastern Block countries and their vote can affect my life too. This should will be extended to other democracies. Everyone gets to vote in each others elections. WOW, can you imagine that?. Real democracy.
Once the war ends in a few months we can all start to seriously think about how we want the post war world to be and start making these dreams come true. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 7:12:24 AM | i appreciate your positivity and hope your right....
i think some of the negativity can be attributed to a culture that is christian in general thus has the whole apocalyptic thing going on which may mean that we are going to bring the roof down ourselves. i think what is happening in the middle east can be attributed to this apocalyptical outlook.
but, i don't see my outlook as being negative.... i think the change i envision is a good thing.... | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 7:16:07 PM | Thank you all for your input. It is interesting to note the lack of positivity in many responses. When I look forwards I see only great positive changes for us all. With the election of Barrak Obama I think that the future is something to look forward too.
Although I do not know exactly what his 'change we can believe in' actually means, [I'm not so sure that he does either], I would hope that as his campaign gathers momentum the 'need' of the American people for this change will overwelm him and changes he never imagined will start to happen.
Well Joey-sana seems to understand what "change" means.
national I.D cards
No cash, only cards or chips
no freedom of speech
no rights at all
enslavement, drugging and murder of people who did nothing wrong
1984,they live, w.e you wanna call it
I'm sure the world will get much better, but not until it gets much worse. I hope I'm wrong. | |
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| What does the future hold for us all
Posted: 6/27/2008 10:09:10 AM | "London will be the Capital city of Europe,Britain,as part of Europe will again take it's rightful place as a true world leader | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:11:01 AM | | ^^^ Right on. Ridiculous politics, empire-spreading and excesses aside, just look at what passes for entertainment in this country and compare that to Rome. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:34:37 AM | It does sound from your posts and some of the others here, Beachbum, that you see the future being prepared to be a one-world government of sorts, wouldn't you agree? That is what it sounds like you're saying to me. Correct me if I'm not perceiving what you're writing accurately.
If that is the case, I don't share your enthusiasm. I think going "global" is a drastic mistake and believe that there will eventually be a "cashless" society with a one world leader ruling over all. I believe that leader will be more corrupt than anything ever witnessed and the end result of his reign will not be pretty; however, I also believe there is light at the end of that tunnel eventually..
Crash is correct when he states that religious prophecy has predicted all of this in advance. And that religious prophecy, the Book of Revelation, sounds remarkably like what you are predicting here in one of your posts on this thread. And it's pretty scary stuff if you're right... | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:41:44 AM | Personally, I'm waiting for my Robotron SoulMate-Male Verson XQZ7 to arrive. God I HOPE they remember that I want him to look ALOT like Jude Law.
The future's so bright we're all gonna need shades.... | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:54:04 AM | | what does are country. hold for the future. we can start buy deporting all illegals. our troops out of Iraq. let them finish what we cant do.let israel fight there own battles.get a third party. to run for president.then we pay for all of bushs blunders. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 3:09:38 PM | | Teachpeace, you should know that there was a compelling documentary featured in the show "Futurama." Its lesson: "Don't date robots!!" | |
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| What does the future hold for us all
Posted: 6/27/2008 3:47:27 PM |
It does sound from your posts and some of the others here, Beachbum, that you see the future being prepared to be a one-world government of sorts
Yup...thats what he was saying. When the Civil war comes, it will be true Americans vs the Globalists. They can't make it happen without a war, because no state signed a treaty with the UN or "NWO". Left vs Right politics won't be the issue, it will be about the sovernty of the American people.
This my be the war that promp the Almighty to intervene, "or no flesh will survive". That may also be why the seventh and eighth kings in the book of Revelation are one in the same.
I know this is a political thread, however it is clear that one way or another, we are entering a new age. This world will suffer "birth pains", non the less. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 4:11:30 PM | What is amazing to me, truly amazing, is that only a few realize what is happening right in front of our faces, Powervamp. I fear that these people who don't see will be like actual sheep to the slaughter when it is time for them to take the mark of the beast. They'll get in line and take it and jeer at those who refuse. Then there is the fact that if you don't get the mark, you'll be unable to buy or sell anything. Only those who can live off the land, etc. will be able to survive without the mark. And those who refuse the mark will presumably be killed or at the very least, hunted down to be forced to take it.
I can hardly believe that we may see the uprising of the beast in my lifetime. I don't relish it, frankly, though I know I'm protected.
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Posted: 6/28/2008 1:35:25 AM | The truth of much of what I say can be seen already. It is either a reality today or would be a desirable outcome for all nations on earth.
The growth of the European Union brings together many countries who formerly fought bloody wars to defend or create borders and divisions within Europe. We could no more imagine war between these countries now than we could see war between England and Scotland or Lancashire and Yorkshire. We are united as one people working together with peace and mutual respect between nations. Doing this has not in any way diminished what it means to be 'English' or 'Spanish' or 'Lancastrian' or whatever, but allows us to live together in a more open and tollerant society where everyone benefits.
It is the continued reluctance of many to accept that national borders no longer exist and trying to maintain this riduculous view that 'this is my country' that prevents us living in a more free ad open world. As British, European or American citizens we enjoy the rights and freedoms to go where we want and to live where we want but then try to deny that right to others. The land on this planet belongs to us all and who are we to say where any man born may live or not. Just being born in one place does not make it yours. We should count our blessing that we were so lucky.
There are 250 languages spoken daily in London. London already has a good case for being considered the capital city of the world not just of Europe. No city on earth is as amazing. Walking down every street is like walking through the United Nations. The same is true now of every city and town in this country. Even walking down my small coastal town I hear Russian, lithuanian, Polish, Slovakian and many other languages spoken in every bar and cafe. These people came from countries who for decades we had been led to believe were a great threat to our freedoms and way of life so we spent trillions building up our military capability and neuclear arsenal to defend ourselves. And the truth?. Well the immigrants who have come here are intelligent, well educated, speak several languages, are predominantly law abiding, have a good work ethic and are very friendly and respectful. They mean us no harm nor have they ever done so. They had been demonised in the same way we see the muslims being demonised now, it just helps the governments to justify spending so much money that could be used for better purposes.
Being afraid of the future is futile. Instead of fearing the worst, you should start dreaming of how it should be and working towards that goal. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 1:42:25 AM | Well Beachbum you are certanly an optimist, i'll give you that. I sure hope I'm wrong about the coming future. It would be nice to have a peacful world without humanity having to pay in blood first.
However I don't want to give up any of my freedoms. We have lost to many already. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 2:12:12 AM | powervamp,
And there you have it in a nutshell. You hope your wrong about the future, I know I am not. Look at what is happening right now to the world. Israel talking to Syria about the Golan heights and talk of peace with Hammas. If the conflict in the middle east happens and barrack Obama delivers peace to Iraq it is hard them to imagine where the next war would come from.
Not from China. China is opening up to the world and it's people are clamouring for the rights and freedoms we have come to expect. Watching the way she reated to the recent earthquake, their strategy for obtaining minerals from the Ivory Coast in Africa as well as other recent documentaries on China has shown them to be a good and benevolent superpower. Quite a contrast to what we have been told about them and also a contrast to how America, Britain and other nations have exploited the riches of Africa.
If the UN had the military resources to do so, it could deal with rogue regimes and dictators as we did with Saddam Hussain. When the UN stands as one, no nation can defeat her. The UN would also use the military for disaster relief too. Handing over control of both the American and British armed forces to the UN would be a great step forward for world peace. Neither of ourtwo countries need such awesome capabilities for defence and even if we did, the UN could defend us.
Please tell me if you had 2 billion pounds or so right now, would you spend it on upgrading our Trident neuclear capability of would you like to spend it on making every house in the country capable of producing it's own solar power?. | |
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Posted: 6/28/2008 4:11:34 AM | I think we already have enough nuclear firepower to destroy most if not all life on earth. I would see to it that the weapons we have remain safe. By safe I mean no radation leaks, not about to launch via malfuction. Any weapon deemed unsafe would be safly dismantled and its contents used for power generation when possible.
I do support the Nuclear shield, but that is a non-nuclear countermeasure. I honeslty don't know what all the fuss is about there. (but I wouldn't speand a mere 4 billion USD on it. )
To answer your question I would use most of it to help alt energy become mainstream. Either we're at Peak oil, or the countries we depend on for it are messing with us. Its time to get free of oil.
I would also make sure people know what permaculture is about.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10279470.aspx -watch the videos linked there.
(I might be in danger of becoming a greeny -but within reason) | |
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Posted: 6/30/2008 6:06:16 AM | We are in more danger from neuclear power and from our own neuclear arsenal now than we have ever been during the cold war or after. There is radio active waste being discharged into the north sea from the plant in Cumbria and has been so for decades now.
Most of the North West coastline is contaminated with this waste as is much of the fish which we eat too. This contamination has affected the entire coastline of Northern Ireland and is now affecting Nordic countries and Greenland.
With Chernoble and Five Mile Island we have seen what can happen. It is not from Iran or terrorist that the real danger comes but from the existing weaponary and power stations we have now. The waste from these plants, and from the new plants that are sheduled to be built is being buried in our towns and cities because our local governments are deperately in need of cash. Much of this waste is buried just below the surface with some being buried over 1.5 Km down where it is believed that the geology of the rocks will act as a protective barrier. If they got this one wrong, there is no way of retrieving the situation. It will seep into the soil and from there into the human food chain. So we will be consuming it in the food we eat from the land as well as in the fish we get from the North Sea.
Wherever you live in the UK you are less than 20 miles from a massive stockpile of this waste and with the planned decommissioning of the current power stations we will see this timebomb grow exponentially in the next few years. It is not going to degrade, low level radio active material is just as harmful to us as high level. Try looking at the instances of luekemia, birth defects and other child cancers and deformaties within 50 miles of the Cumbrian plant and you would be shocked.
When the cold war ended we should have all benefited from the peace dividend it brought but both the British and American governments have continued to spend recklessly on our military capabilites and upgrading our neuclear arsenals even though in theory we had no enemy to be protected from. The money we have spent since this war ended could have been spent to make our dependance upon oil a thing of the past. It is only the creation of a new and unseen enemy, terrorists, that allow them to justify what they are doing. Given what we read in these forums about the threat of Iran and terrorist getting a bomb and setting it off in one of our cities is exactly what those in power want us to think so that they can continue the investment in our military and neuclear capability without getting any form of protection from it. | |
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