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 ritawayward

Joined: 4/17/2007
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Posted: 7/2/2008 1:46:25 PM
If you replaced ugly, ordinary, short or any other term that describes the appearance of someone and then added the assumptions you made
about "Beautiful People" in a post here MOST of you would be posting wildly to come to "their" defence that assumptions and generalizations are unfair!

It seems beautiful people(as they are often in the minority by far) are a safe target for all the things
people would never dream of accusing anyone else of. You are joining them in their "us and them" mentality by pumping each other
up against them here.

"Beautiful People"(self described or otherwise) have no monopoly on "inner ugliness" and many of you have done a great job
of proving it without even realizing how obviously so.

This topic was debated(I use the term loosely) in exactly the same way on another thread ...
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10263782.aspx
 Liana K

Joined: 6/13/2008
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:03:25 PM
singlemaltgirl, the statements of ** go argue with another poster. i'm just arguing that the right of a site based on beauty (however, they determine beauty to be) has the right to exist. **

'Arguing' isn't my style .. it may be your's ... but forming opinions and presenting them to others certainly is if they can stand up to the plate and admit that they even indirectly acknowledged my post. (I could have sworn you copied the same response that was taken by someone else and agreed with it by saying "exactly" .. .which WAS directed to my post). Maybe it JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN! I can't find the justification in addressing a brick wall more than once when there is an absence of responsibility. 'Argue' away.



Leagueofextraordinarymen, this site may very well turn out the way you said it would purely based on the monetary aspect. Great point, good thinking for the future of how this might actually end up turning out anyway. !
 Singlemaltgirl

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:54:56 PM
liana - YOU have no interest in arguing? and yet you barked at me initially and even after i apologized for any perceived slights in my next post, you still had to insult me.
the fact that you take any post following yours as a direct personal attack on you or your opinion says that you might be somewhat of a narcissist or at the very least a little too ego-centric. my initial post was never directed at you and yet you read it as a personal attack. my second post i attempted to explain and apologize. that post you read only what you wanted to read.

if you want to villify me or try to make me seem ignorant, goody for you. i have no time for someone who inherently can't be bothered with serious debate (which is what these forums are about) and with someone who chooses to insult and inflame rather than respond in a reasonable manner.
 Singlemaltgirl

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 7/2/2008 6:03:53 PM
rita - it's probably b/c beauty is such a subjective term whereas a religion or a particular feature (like height or weight, etc) is much more tangible. and besides, people are threatened/intimidated/envious of beautiful people...so they do make an easy target.

perhaps "beautiful" people are so difficult to specifially identify that it's easy to malign them?
 wvwaterfall

Joined: 1/17/2007
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Posted: 7/2/2008 6:09:16 PM
If you replaced ugly, ordinary, short or any other term that describes the appearance of someone and then added the assumptions you made
about "Beautiful People" in a post here MOST of you would be posting wildly to come to "their" defence that assumptions and generalizations are unfair!


To some extent your criticism is justified, but there is a difference between discriminating against someone based on the appearance genetics provided them and not being impressed by those who devote hours each day to achieving some madison avenue standard of 'beauty'.

In these days of plastic surgery, tanning salons, personal trainers, 'total makeovers', etc...., virtually anyone could achieve an appearance that would past muster on that site. We all set priorities in our own lives, and almost all if not all of us find others more or less appealing based on the priorities they set in theirs. You certainly passed judgement on those who posted in this thread, so you're no exception to that rule.

I strive hard in my everyday relations to treat everyone I encounter with respect. I have friendships and professional relationships with people from pretty much every walk of life, political and spiritual outlook, and yes, every conceivable appearance. But I do reserve the right when contemplating a mate to include standards I'd never let enter consideration in any other sort of relationship. I make no apology for that.

My personal taste and lifestyle lead me to find noticeable makeup unattractive. I don't like to kiss lipstick. There isn't a perfume made that smells anywhere near as good to me as a woman's natural scent. I like to live an active life and would want to share it with someone who like me, wakes up very close to ready to greet the day and dive into all the adventures it has to offer.

So as I noted in my earlier post, only one in a hundred women on that site looked like they just might be worth a second look to me. Odds are the other 99 wouldn't have any interest in me either. I can't speak for others who have posted here, but I was simply pointing out that the members of that site were not ones I would choose to date.

Dave
 DietCoke®Guy

Joined: 3/13/2005
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Posted: 7/2/2008 6:47:45 PM

It's like, who'd ever cheat on such gorgeous women?

That reminds me of that image that gets emailed around with a picture of a gorgeous woman with the caption below - "No matter how good she looks right now, somebody, somewhere, is tired of putting up with her shit."
So do you think that the people with the fake great pics on here would have any trouble getting their fake great pics approved there?
 locario

Joined: 12/8/2007
Msg: 82
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Posted: 7/2/2008 7:06:40 PM
After reading the article posted by the OP, I tried to just take a peek at the site discussed in the opening post, but found that the site only supports Internet Explorer. For me, that's reason enough to cry "Foul!"

O.k... In all seriousness, I think there's some truth to what Rita said:

If you replaced ugly, ordinary, short or any other term that describes the appearance of someone and then added the assumptions you made about "Beautiful People" in a post here MOST of you would be posting wildly to come to "their" defence [sic] that assumptions and generalizations are unfair!


I agree. I think it's right that the beautiful people have their own place to go to find one another. I really do. I mean, beautiful people have become so stereotyped, have been so maligned as a group, have been so misunderstood -- I think by now most of them are pretty fed up with all of us ordinary people, and they have every right to go find someone just as beautiful as themselves, who won't pre-judge them simply because they're uber-attractive.

Me, I'm with Dave. Of course, being a woman, I haven't been faced with too many men who take hours to primp and preen before they're ready to go take on some adventure (even if it's just wandering the isles at the local book store, something I prefer to do in my p.j.s if at all possible!). But, there have been a couple of memorable ones. And once, when I sat for an hour, waiting for one of those wonderful, beautiful men to decide what outfit to wear for his big trip down to the hotel lobby to take care of some small matter... well, I wondered what it would be like to be married to Mr. Beautiful. Talk about role reversal.

By the way, Mr. Beautiful, if by some odd chance you're actually following my posts, don't take that tongue in cheek recital of that moment in any was as a negative. I actually loved that hour! You know who you are.
 troother

Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 83
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Posted: 7/2/2008 8:52:31 PM

it's probably b/c beauty is such a subjective term whereas a religion or a particular feature (like height or weight, etc) is much more tangible. and besides, people are threatened/intimidated/envious of beautiful people...so they do make an easy target.

perhaps "beautiful" people are so difficult to specifially identify that it's easy to malign them?


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder , but most beholders agree on what is beautiful .

I think that people like to run down beautiful people because they have been taught to resent anything but absolute equality . Part of it is that the mainstream media has conditioned people in this way .

I prefer to recognise that physical beauty is.. well , a beautiful thing . Those who have beauty , have a gift . I don't resent beauty , since , the world is infinately more interesting when we are not all "equal " in that not everyone is born with exactly equal talents , intelligence or beauty.
And , I was lucky enough to be born with all three .
(-;
 actualized

Joined: 4/13/2008
Msg: 84
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Posted: 7/2/2008 9:13:09 PM
and the rejects end up on this site?? haha just kidding. actually i think canadian women on this site on average are a notch above the american women. anyone have an idea of the average weight is for canadians versus americans?????
 Peacethx

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 7/2/2008 9:29:32 PM
Helena Rubenstein said it best

There are no ugly women, only lazy women.

Ditto for men.
 Drackoe28

Joined: 3/4/2008
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Posted: 7/3/2008 12:19:51 AM
Well, I think its a brilliant idea for people for whom looks are the overriding importance criteria for a mate. The site will attract people who are appearance conscious (or shallow, if you wish) and they will find what they want there without having to shift through the hundreds of their undesirables. Sure, they'll miss out on the people you may think are better choices for their other internal 'beauty', but their use of that site demonstrates that those other things are secondary concerns. And you shouldn't be too worried about all this.

I mean, would YOU want to date these people? Most of you claim you wouldn't, so why the ****fest?
 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 7/7/2008 2:48:27 PM
I say let them have it if they so choose. It's their freedom. Not saying it's right, just saying the hell with 'em :P
 surethyng

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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:12:48 PM

rita - it's probably b/c beauty is such a subjective term whereas a religion or a particular feature (like height or weight, etc) is much more tangible. and besides, people are threatened/intimidated/envious of beautiful people...so they do make an easy target.

perhaps "beautiful" people are so difficult to specifially identify that it's easy to malign them?


"such a subjective term" ? ?
"difficult to specifically identify" ? ?

You seem very confident that people understand exactly who you are referring to when you typed .... quote : "beautiful" people .
And... you are right , people definately do understand who you are referring to .
And so does rita.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder , but most beholders agree on what is beautiful .

True.
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