| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/17/2008 10:19:35 PM | I have 2 little girls 3 and 5 years old. They were raped and molested on several occasions. It was a crime that was committed by there half brothers who are minors that confessed to doing it and they were never charged.Thank God there was no serious physical damage unlike the poor 8 year old little girl in this case, but the mental and emotional damage is a death sentence for these little girls. That man and all other offenders should be put to death . Hell if I wasn't a single parent I would say give me a gun and addresses and I would take care of it myself , because prison is not any kind of punishment for people like that. They don't rape pedophiles in jail like they used too. Because the people being locked up now a days don't care. Some of the people in whatever jail would give a pedophile a pat on the back because he got some before they thought of trying to get some kind of moral justice. Not to mention some jails give these pieces of shit access to computers where the can still fuel the child porn industry. People need to wake-up and realize That even all the new laws that are supposed to protect our kids still favor the criminal especially where I live in Massachusetts.  | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/18/2008 5:07:07 AM | First, I don't support the death penalty. It only serves to deter something like 1 in 8 murders, though how that figure was derived, I haven't a clue. Perhaps someone has a crystal ball their not sharing.
In Canada, judges are, well, pussies. They hand out slap on the wrist sentences for things like murder, assault and rape. Canada does have a very soft justice system with a large focus on rehabilitation for those violent offenders, even giving them day passes. Yes, rehab is good, but some crimes do warrant an actual punishment.
Though it's not likely to happen anytime soon, I would have a far different approach to criminal punishment than others. I feel that hardened criminals and repeat offenders should have to repay society in some way. And not by living in the gray bar hotel for a few years, complete with free food, free TV, free gym, free computers, free health care, so on and so forth. Have those repeat and violent offender sort our garbage, pulling out the recyclables, breaking down old cars and consumer electronics for recycling, more chain gangs, but add the nasty odor of garbage.
Rapists however, they should get raped in the rump every single night by the biggest, fattest, smelliest, sweatiest guy society can find. I believe that the crime of rape should demand the code of Hammurabi, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, rape for rape. That or vigilantism, but only for rape. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:24:00 AM | If I had a dog and it turned on a puppy and attacked it, I'd hit it over the head with a hammer....however...in this case I'd build a special prison for these kind of offenders and lock them up together forever. Death is too good for them.
I wouldn't feed them, they don't deserve that luxury, just let them kill each other for anything they might find or take from new inmates, and don't start on about human rights and all that stuff....they shouldn't have any human rights. What rights did that poor little girl have?
I think that might be a good deterrent....do you think they would really commit such a horrible offense, if they knew this would be the punishment? | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:29:51 AM | Sometimes I wonder what it would take for the politicians and judges to treat child rape for what it ... would it help to "clue them in" if their own children and/or grandchildren were the victims? (Not that I wish that fate on any child).
Maybe the judges, politicians and lawyers who defend the scum need to experience being ripped apart and reconstructive surgery to partially understand the effects of rape on a child?
I think death is a suitable punishment for people who could harm a child in that fashion. Failing death, send them all to a deserted island to fend for themselves ... never to return to society.
An example of Canadian justice .... , One of two men who raped a 5 year old girl (in Alberta) received a six year sentence. {If he is a good boy in jail he will serve 2 yrs. } The little girl will suffer internal physical damage and emotional damage for her entire life. THIS IS JUSTICE?? I don't even know the little girl, but if I knew one of her offenders was the person crossing the street in front of me, my brakes would likely fail at that moment.
Every failing of the justice system just builds up the idea that old-fashioned vigilantism may need to kick-in... | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/18/2008 9:55:15 AM | [guess mom made abad choice in a spouse... where was she?]
WHAT??????? Mom's choice is not the issue here, it's what he did regardless. Don't go blaming the mother! | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:15:38 AM | This sickness is just beyond the pale. How can we as normal people, even understand why the sick **stard did what he did. But, regardless of motivation. He simply should have his reproductive organs removed.
All people like this should have their reproductive organs removed, then they need to live in prison for the rest of their lives, doing labor the length of their term.
Death is actually to good for them. A life of working in prison, with no reproductive organs, is a start.
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/19/2008 9:49:22 AM | | I'm against the death penalty and the emotionally unstable person who wrote this should calm down. Monsters don't exist. The guilty man is in prison and poses no threat to you. Why would you want this man killed? Prison is bad enough. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/21/2008 4:28:35 PM | | To be completely honest, there is actually very little difference between lifetime imprisonment in a level 3 or higher facility and the death penalty. In both of them you die alone in what will probably be a violent and painful death. According to my Uncle Jeff (who was a warden and psychologist at Columbia in Wisconsin until 2001 when he transfered to the new Redgranite facility) even among the worst criminals imaginable there was a line separating right from wrong. Pedophilia, Necrophilia, and Canibalism are top on the list of evils. Even betraying a prison gang wasn't considered as bad as any of them. Prisoners who do any of these acts are brutally raped and frequently murdered. Those that aren't generally lose their will to live and resign themselves to death which soon comes. The average length of time someone is in a supermax facility is less than 10 years. It isn't because they are old when they get there, catch a disease, or transfered to less secure facilities (although that does happen frequently as well). They die because the human soul cannot survive in those conditions for very long. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/21/2008 4:43:45 PM | | That's good to know...the butthole who took advantage of my sweet naive 11-year-old granddaughter got sentenced to 15 years and I hope they make his life miserable, he made that sweet girl's life miserable now she has an STD she will never lose!!! | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/25/2008 3:04:30 PM | you look at what happened recently on the news here in ozzy there was a pedaphile set free from jail this is the second time he has been set free the first time he went straight out and done it again and yet he still gets out what justice is that to set this idiot free there should be more higher penalties for those that deliberately go out and hurt our young as a mother if it were my child id make them suffer the same fait my child suffered and have no regrets about it.....shaz  | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/25/2008 3:55:51 PM | That Ozzy grandma who used a shotgun on the guys who raped her granddaughter was SPOT ON!
If all else fails, blow their equipment off with a shotgun!! They won't do it again!!  | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/25/2008 4:12:34 PM | | The man who had been molested as a child had a very good point. A child feeling responsible for the death of their attacker isn't going to do anyone any good. The most important thing is prevent further harm which can be accomplished by locking the offender up. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/25/2008 4:59:02 PM | What do you expect from a society that murders babies and considers it legal and ok? But heavens no don't be inhumane to that poor child molester! Makes me sick to my stomach!!!  | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/26/2008 1:26:56 AM | actually, this society says murder is wrong. Removing non-living organic tissue is not.
And I don't think anyone is advocating being nice to a child molester. The question is jail for a long time, to try and fix him; Jail forever, to keep him from ever doing it again; Execution, to punish him for something so heinous that his continued life is a stain upon society. I don't see any of those as particularly pleasant options.
I know emotion runs high on this sort of issue because the topic in question is probably among the most heinous crimes a mortal can commit. However, what is being asked by this topic is really: Is it as bad as murder? The Supreme Court said no. Lots of people disagree. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/26/2008 12:10:20 PM | | A baby is not non living organic tissue. These babies are or were aborted when they were nearly fully developed. A doctor I knew once told me that because he used to abort. Now he no longer does it. Kinda screwed him up in the head along with other issues.I'm not too sure about what stages that abortions are practiced today,but, it is one of the most irresponsible and sick acts a person can do. Unless that child is deathly sick or is a hazard to the mother's health it should be a crime.There are many forms of birth control available. Teens can get birth control without the consent of a parent or guardian for free. One of my relatives was molested and abused throughout most of her childhood until she was old enough to get away and report this criminal.Her younger siblings also told of their abuse, but, were too young to be able to testify. It was her testimony that got him in prison. He got 20 to 25 years. He's been in prison since 1997 and no he hasn't been fixed. He is still the same. Still writing letters to her and the rest of his children that were also abused. Like he's never done anything wrong. Sorry to say this but some people don't want to be fixed and will continue to hurt others throughout their life. That's where the death penalty comes in. It's basically putting these people out of their misery. And think of all that money we could be saving helping victims of crime and other nationwide organizations if we brought back the death penalty? Instead of the rapist and murderers getting three square meals a day, cable TV, internet access etc, we could fund the homeless children, low income working single mothers and fathers, better systems of education for children, and so on. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/26/2008 2:03:05 PM |
What do you expect from a society that murders babies and considers it legal and ok?
I know of no society that thinks that murdering babies is okay, let alone legal. Murdering babies is quite illegal here in Canada, as in any country I know of. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 2:36:09 PM | I also want to say that trying to claim the reduced cost of keeping a criminal alive instead of killing him is another poor argument. Both sides of this issue claim this as their advantage. Proponents says that killing is cheaper than supporting for life. Opponents say that leaving them in prison is cheaper because killing takes over a decade (on average), has many more appeals, and other related costs. The fact is, it doesn't matter who is right. Whichever way is cheaper, the difference won't go to mothers or victims or any cause like that. The costs come from all over the budget and aren't tracked directly (thus the debate). So all it will do is extremely slightly reduce government spending. The difference will amount to literally pennies in a tax decrease, or will be diverted to another government project. Honestly, the other project would probably be in corrections since they'd be getting most of the money, so it would mean better security, new prisons, or repairing existing ones. The second most would go into the District Attorney so they'd have more money to go after criminals.
But the point is, no matter which side is cheaper, nor by how much, none of that money will ever go to a victim. | |
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| High Court: No Death Penalty for Child Rape..
Posted: 7/26/2008 3:37:50 PM | Has anyone ever perhaps thought that some of these abusers were themselves the victims of abuse?
I just find it interesting how an abused person can become abuser, and then we say "we should abuse him the way he abused others" oblivious to the fact that abuse is what created the abuser...
I'm not at all condoning abuse- of anyone. But it always amazes me how we have no problem stripping a person of their humanity based upon something they did with no regard as to who they are or how they got to that point. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 5:00:07 PM | | Many, many, many people have been abused and lead decent, law abiding lives. Abuse is no excuse, IMO. These scum (child rapists) need to be permanently removed from society so they do not offend again. The only way to guarantee 100% that they won't do it again (ie. that they won't escape prison or get out on parole) is to execute them. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 6:19:06 PM | Escaping from prison is something that only happens in movies (generally speaking). Throwing someone in prison removes them from the rest of society for the duration they are in there. Putting someone on the sex offender registry also shuns and ostracizes them.
And I don't think it was meant as an excuse. It was meant as an explanation. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 7:01:11 PM | There are those who believe the medical community which states that a foetus is not a living human being. There are also those who believe religions which state that it is.
I happen to be of the belief that everyone and everything serves a purpose in life. That each life we go through is there to teach us some kind of less, or impart some kind of knowledge to us (and we get to do it over if we mess up). What lesson can you possibly learn from being a child molester? I honestly do not know. However I believe there is some purpose and there must be some lesson to it. I think there is a chance that the lesson will be at some point in prison and as a result, we shouldn't try and end life early, lest they never learn what they were intended to in this life. I think that sequestering them from society so they can never harm another child is sufficient in protecting society from them. And I think that giving them the ability to think about all that has happened in life and have a spiritual revelation is sufficient in taking care of them. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:37:36 PM | | Bigshrek, the abortion topic was an example.It wasn't supposed to lead on to a longer conversation about the wrongs of abortion,but, I was coaxed into it by another post stating it was ok. It's quite Hypocritical that it isn't ok to humanely take the life of a criminal that will never do harm to another innocent person again,but, it's ok to take an innocent life away like babies for example. No confusion here Bigshrek. Just pure compassion and respect for the innocent here. Another poster stated that it is our society that creates criminals and immoral behavior. Yes, she is correct.That would play a big part. But I'd believe poor upbringings would be the main factor. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2008 2:35:24 PM | | Who cares if giving the death penalty to offender A doesnt deter offender B, It does however keep us from spending 50,000 a year in tax money keeping them in prison! | |
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