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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 12:44:21 AM | Many archeologists today are deconstructing the old myth of paleolithic society as a male dominated culture. It is believed that women hunted along side men among Neanderthals and other stone age people . It is believed by many, that male, female segregation of roles and duties did not come about until later on in the iron age, when there were larger populations. That's when males began hunt in exlusively male packs with iron tipped weapons.
"Strict gender segregation of work is a product of large populations and specialized work," "Where populations are small and work is large, people do it together. People can't afford to have the attitude of 'No, no, that's not my work.'"
This means that in early stone age societies, men and women shared duties more equally, therefore women may have had more equal roles and may have had more say in whom they selected for a mate. There are plenty of examples of male dominated societies, where men took what they wanted and kept women in subjection, they just may not have existed in the stone age or "cave man times". Just a little FYI | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 3:22:44 AM | I broke my club...!!!
It was killing too many women..!!
Plus...I discovered that I'm not into Necrophilia...!!
My only Real 'Caveman' impulses cone out .. on the Hockey rink..!!
If I was to suprise a Lady with something...it wouldn't be a club..
[well...maybe a new Sand Wedge, or something..!.. !]
...it'd be with a Dozen Roses..!!...or a Purple Teddy..!!
But, then...SHE'd get 'Cavey'...and drag ME to the Bedroom...!!
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Hey..!!! .. That works, Too...!!!
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 3:55:58 AM |
~OP~ Silly you ~ for that attitude you best try collar me dot com.
Hey verygreeneyez, good suggestion! ROFLMAO
verygreeneyez, I've been a long time admirer of you for some time. I've read many forum posts of yours. Not to mention, you are a knock out to this man.
My compliments Ma'am.
The truth is, I am on collar me dot com. BUT not for the reason you suggested for this guy. I've noticed this thread brought out very few men. So I thought I'd chime in with a different male point of view.
I adore, admire and respect woman in general so much that I have no problem letting a woman be in charge ( notice I did not say "control") Big difference there. my my love for a woman would even allow a certain amount of control. I will and enjoy submitting to the will, desire and needs of a Lady. I feel that for way to long in way to many cultures including our great country and Canada, woman have been controlled, suppressed and thought of as second rate citizens for far to long. It is my belief woman are in fact the stronger sex. Men are only stronger physically. Great for doing all the lifting a woman might need done! lol
I have long left the oppressive macho attitude portrayed by the OP. Truth be known, I despise the way many men feel about woman. June Cleaver days of the dutiful housewife, stay at home mom, barefoot and pregnant are dead and gone. I applaud and support those woman that not only excel to equal, but even surpass many men in the work place and society as a whole.
I am a man, not a wimp by no means. I'm not ashamed to have a woman in charge. But when in a couple situation, my strength as a man, a protector and provider are there like they should be with any man. In fact, I am proud to have this much respect, admiration, lust, love, and appreciation for woman to allow myself to serve her wants and needs before my own.
When God created man...SHE was only joking. Women do rule! As it should be. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:04:07 AM | | OP, I get the idea, but I think you've got it slightly twisted. Yes, women do like men who know how to be assertive when the need arises, because women are attracted to MEN not cowards, and the difference between men and cowards is that a man will respect a woman, but know when to put his foot down, and a coward will let a woman walk all over him. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:09:39 AM | | Can we club you over the head for writing this post? I'm sure some women would love a good clubbing, and many probably even deserve it. But for the normal people, it's probably just not appealling to go back in history. You can always search for those hotties living in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia though - they might appreciate your brand of manliness. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:09:59 AM |
Many archeologists today are deconstructing the old myth of paleolithic society as a male dominated culture. It is believed that women hunted along side men among Neanderthals and other stone age people . It is believed by many, that male, female segregation of roles and duties did not come about until later on in the iron age, when there were larger populations. ...
My compliments skyman1!
So true! There is also evidence that the first known religions of this world that woman were the religious leaders. They worships Goddesses, not Gods. I'll get slammed by the religious zealot's for this, but I'm reading a book right now that pointed out some evidence that even Jesus worships a Goddess. This book does not deny his existence at all. But it is about how our modern society is on a slow road back to the worshiping of the Great Mother Goddess. Men in our patriarchal society have suppressed the fact that woman once ruled in many early societies.
Sad to think that even today, in one eastern country, they still kill female offspring because the male baby is more important. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:15:00 AM | | I don't know how you came to that conclusion.Thanks to feminism most women I see want some submissive,P.u.s.s.y whipped metrosexual they can dress and order around.They want to play the woman AND the man in a relationship.I guess since feminists are gender confused no wonder they look like men and prefer women,lol They claim to want a real men but real men aren't like what I just discribed.Feminism and reality clash on so many levels.Anyways read the rest of the responses in here the women are gonna pick on ya bud. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:25:22 AM | I absolutely agree with you lethrnek. You've just described my perfect man. I'm not talking about being controlled, I can't be. I'm talking about stepping up to the plate and making decisions on your own. Controlled in a limited (very) way is maybe not the best way to put it but still an attractive quality that I look for in a man.
Maybe because I've been with so many men that couldn't take control of their own lives, couldn't make a decision to save their own lives. I've had to be the strong decisive one in most of my relationships. Maybe why I've always fantasized about cavemen. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:28:48 AM | hey OP..can i club you in the head and drag you back to the cave? you forgot to clean up your own damned mess you made in the bedroom with the clubbing of that rat of gigantic size you saw running thru the cave | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 5:00:09 AM |
See dude, you lost them all with the one word. "Control" I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent I agree. But, No one wants to be controlled. Must be careful in the forums brother. Choose your words wisely. You notice that not alot has beend said to disagree with your overall statement but all comments have been directed at the use of That word. The new "C" word. Control was what the women's movement was all about anyway.
Control is not a bad word when used in the right context...for example, women like men who are in control, but not controlling. Truth is, women most appreciate men who have presence, who are confident, who are comfortable in allowing others to be participative, to lead, to be in charge.
It's not about dominating a woman, it's about having the persona that makes her want to be close to you, to admire you, to respect you. And when that happens, she naturally seeks your leadership and in doing such fulfills her need to be with a strong man. This isn't to say she can't make decisions without you, just that she prefers to reflect the relationship dynamics with you whenever possible...but when the needs come down to survival, she will assert herself.
The reason there are so many divorces is that women get tired of being the leader in the relationship. Regardless of the incarnation, almost all women want some variation of the modern day fairy tale. The problem is, they marry guys who they believe are going to continue to grow and become men...and the guys don't...and eventually, she realizes she can have a better life with one less (adult) child under her care.
My love, respect and admiration for women will not allow me to abdicate my role in the relationship...a lesson I learned late in life, but nonetheless was learned...and I now realize is a lesson that needs to be taught to young men before they screw up at least two lives.
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Posted: 6/26/2008 5:11:34 AM | MMmmMMmmmmm...!!...Role-Playing...!!!
Where are those Cuffs...!!! [I've Got the Riding Crop...right Here !!!]
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 5:13:18 AM | Totally based on myself , yes...i'd say this is correct. Personally I LOVE it whe a man takes charge.
Now, I don't mean where he is telling me what to do. But when he takes inititive to do something without always asking for my opinion, i'm all for that.
Oh the other hand, I like to be that way too sometimes. So If two people can acheive this sort of equal agressiveness for a positive result, thats the best way.
But when He is overly aggressive and never lets up, then no...that just won't do...lol | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 5:14:41 AM | | eazk, wonderfully put. You managed to convey what I was thinking so much better than I did. I think this is what the op was talking about. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 5:31:58 AM |
The reason there are so many divorces is that women get tired of being the leader in the relationship. Regardless of the incarnation, almost all women want some variation of the modern day fairy tale. The problem is, they marry guys who they believe are going to continue to grow and become men...and the guys don't...and eventually, she realizes she can have a better life with one less (adult) child under her care.
I vote this as the best quote of the thread. Can we please have this bronzed and passed around to all males. This is the number one reason why I fell out of love with my ex. I already had a child, I didnt need another one that I didnt sign up for! | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 6:01:32 AM | | Definitely! Why don't we return to the days when women couldn't vote and were expected to be barefoot and pregnant too? You really don't need to go all the way back to caveman days to find a time when women weren't considered equal citizens. You have no idea how grateful I am that some guys consider it too taxing for a woman to think for herself. You're looking for a dog, not a partner. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:10:02 AM | How is it that no one noticed what maggiedoyle - message 56 - had to say re this subject?
She says:
I'm sure some women would love a good clubbing, and many probably deserve it. ....You can always search for those hotties living in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia though - they might appreciate your brand of manliness.
I find it astounding that any woman, or man, in this day and age would even jokingly suggest that some women deserve to be clubbed, and others welcome it!!
I realize that some of her comments may be tongue-in-cheek, but they are still unappreciated. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:37:20 AM | | Biologically, this does make alot of sense. The stronger a man appears to be, the stronger his offspring will likely be. However, there are so many other factors that play into this, such as chemistry. If a man is "brutish," as you've described, even to a small degree, but I can't have a decent conversation with him, a woman is probably going to kick him to the curb. A brute is hot at first sight, and it may lead to a night of passion with that alone, combined with alcohol, but that's so easy, even a caveman can do it! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 7:40:11 AM | To each their own, I guess. But I don't like controlling behavior, and I try to make it a rule that I don't do to others what I don't like done to me. That might be a flaw in thinking, but it's a flaw that I'm happy with... | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 7:47:01 AM | | Man I hope the OP's potential dates see the thread on his profile so they know what they are getting into. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 8:43:30 AM | I think you've got a point, but you said it wrong. Women can't deny that generally men are the physically stronger gender. Women do not want a man who is weak. They want a man who is decisive, who can make decisions, can be very strong, but she doesn't want to be dominated in terms of where her personality doesn't count. She does a man in many cases, though many wouldn't admit it, she can lean on. Of course, even the toughest men though lean on their women. There are certain expectations of males from women. You should simply say a man shouldn't be shy to show his masculine side and even flaunt it, but he shouldn't control things. Now, some women may like the control thing, because they feel secure and protected, but many do not.
Women also want a man who can stand to be tested sharply by his woman and even criticized strongly and stand his ground without getting defensive and being calm about it and proving himself to her that he is strong. In the same way, men want women to be very feminine, nurturing, to be inspirational, to drive the fire found inside men. They say behind every great man is a woman. If a woman is controlled, her greatness cannot shine.
My 4 cents (since there is inflation these days). | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 8:48:39 AM | | First off Semper Fi bro.Thanks for your service,and I gotta agree with the ladies.Unless it's a roll playing thang,Equals in all aspects.Alot to be said for equality in a relationship.Find a couple who stayed together for say 35+ years,there most common reply to "how did you do it" is they stayed equals in all aspects. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 8:59:28 AM | | VERY WELL SAID! Girl, or should I say "woman" since a real woman would NEVER allow herself to be controlled in ANY way except, as you said behind closed doors wherever that may be lol. BTW some men like it up the arse and it's usually the ones you'd least expect...ha. | |
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