| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:09:29 AM | | The only "manner" I've seen so far was in the "bedroom" and even then, at least in my case, turnabout is fairplay..i.e. I get to control you as well. Are you "up" for that? I doubt it. I don't mean to sterotype by race but being a Hispanic male, I think, has something to do with your "control" issues. I say this from experience, not my own, but a close friend and from the domestic violence prevalent in that culture. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:13:46 AM | in Neolithic times there were matri-focal or women cnetred societies and during this time there was NO EVIDENCE of rape..fortification or violence..
this PEACEFUL...PARNERSHIP ways lasted for a million years
we have had DOMINATOR...societies for only 5000 years and
IT IS NOT WORKING...
for realatiohsips to work we NEED PARTNERSHIP..no t control and agression
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 9:20:21 AM | | so true....Have you read "When God was a Woman"? The goddess culture lasted much longer than Christianity and although I am a Christian, the culuture of the goddess makes a great deal of sense to me. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 9:32:32 AM | | This subject is definitely a grey area. Personally, I don't think there is a right or wrong way, every woman is different. I've had gf's that liked me to be the aggressive man, and I've had gf's that didn't like it so much. So assuming you care what your partner thinks, you'll pretty much have to adapt to her. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 9:52:05 AM | | Caveman days? Do you have some sort of insight beyond that of anthropologists or have you just watched a lot of bad B movies? Just a heads up, Wilma was always dominant over Fred. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 10:50:12 AM | Maybe I read it wrong but I didn't think the op was saying women should be controlled. Rather, I thought he was saying men should be men. And of course that means different things to different people. Having been with an abusive controlling man I would never go there again. But isn't there a happy medium? People have always said I'm so strong. Guess what? I didn't always want to be strong! I didn't always want to make all the decisions, fix whatever was wrong. My experience has been that most men, and this is only my experience I'm talking about, have been seriously lacking in the ability to share in responsibilities. Lacking self control, confidence. Maybe because I appear so strong I attract these sort of men?
I'll continue to fantasize about cavemen, cowboys. They just took care of whatever needed taking care of. Lot like us women. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 11:43:41 AM | Assertiveness and confidence are traits that just about everyone finds sexy.
Where the OP falls off the wagon is when he talks about "controling" the woman.
Women like men who are in control - not controling. Just like they like men who are dominant - not domineering. There's a huge difference between the two, both in theory and application. Distinguishing between the two states, and learning how to be the positive of the two states is where a lot of people fail. There was a time when society as a rule taught and encouraged these traits in young men. Sadly, those days are gone. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 11:47:02 AM | | I'm right there with the poster who said if it's in the bedroom, then hell yes. I like men who are assertive, but I have my limits and boundaries as well and those need to be respected. There's a fine line between abuse and conesentual agressiveness. That line should never be crossed. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 12:04:51 PM | I really think you spent too much time in the mid-east....maybe you would fit better to move there...or maybe you should get yourself a mail order bride from one of those pathetic countries that treats women like their property...you should probably move her to the middle of nowhere though...cause once she gets over here & meets some real men, she'll dump your silly a** | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 12:12:18 PM | Oh laaaaaaaaawd OP, wake up and smell the coffee.
Cave man days? Hahaha! Surely you jest. As another poster stated, Wilma was always dominate over Fred. Perhaps you are submissive sub-consciously. Plus if they turned back time, how would you be able to whore around on the internet?
Hmmm. Something to ponder. Duh. 
Truth be told, IMO~ men wouldn't even need money or status if it wasn't for women. They could lay around like slouths and kill each other for what they need. After all, Rosey and her five sisters love you long time, no? Hehehe!! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 12:28:09 PM | Ok, Guess I'm old fashion, but from the gist of what I read from the OP's statement, don't women want some of the old fashion style of dating?
For me, Heck Yeah!! I would love to be swept off my feet, grapped and kissed passionately by the hero's in the westerns and other romantic movies. But, reality of life and women's lib has changed that quite a bit, but the idea is still there, hence "Chick Flicks".
But to all the others that have written before, you all have some pretty funny writing going on. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 12:33:40 PM | Caveman days! Yup, club us over the head (wait a minute, a few women on here do that to men), pull our hair (yeah baby), throw us over your shoulder and off to the cave.... Thanks for the laugh! As some have noted...Wilma did always have Fred eating out of her hand after she made mush out of him at the end of most episodes. Yabba dabba doo!   | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 12:50:34 PM | | I think that woman do like a guy that is secure in himself, and even liberated girls today do like the guy to open a door for them from time to time, and offer to do manly things for us like changing a tire for us . I myself don't want a guy that thinks he must call the shots in everything. I think it's good to have a combination between the caveman, and a guy I went out on a date with that seemed TERRIFIED of women! I wasn't gonna bite him, I swear, lol! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 2:28:03 PM | Wedding rings originate with cavemen, btw. Post modern industrial men could be assertive, not aggressive, except in athletics. Being obsequious should only be part of romance, not as head of household in a patriarchal society. That would be a turn off. A guy needs to know when to be a boy and when to step up to the plate. Being a smelly old caveman is going a little too far. We might not know how to handle all that manliness! We're a people raised on Mr. Rogers's Neighborhood, not Hulk Hogan's Hood!  | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 2:47:39 PM | Sorry, but the only caveman I could find myself semi-attracted to is.....
"CAPTAIN......CAAAAAAAAVEMAAAAAAAAN!!"
(and even he was bossed around by three chicks.)
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Posted: 6/26/2008 3:07:32 PM |
This subject is definitely a grey area. Personally, I don't think there is a right or wrong way, every woman is different. I've had gf's that liked me to be the aggressive man, and I've had gf's that didn't like it so much. So assuming you care what your partner thinks, you'll pretty much have to adapt to her.
Ding! Ding! Ding!! We have a winner and it's just so obvious wouldn't you think, that everyone would know this and proceed accordingly, but alas, some people like to bang their heads against the wall and wonder Why??? | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 3:33:50 PM | Women don't want a man to control them. What they do want is a man who will take control of situations.
That's what they mean by assertive.
The irony is in the finesse. When a man controls situations, he controls things that will affect the woman. So indirectly, he does control a woman's life by directing or manipulating situations that affect her directly. Hopefully he makes good choices when he takes control of each situation.
A man's choices should cause a woman to feel loved, safe, secure, and hopefully happy.
If she's not feeling these things, she may accuse him of being controlling... | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 3:48:40 PM |
Women don't want a man to control them. What they do want is a man who will take control of situations.
So very true!!! | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 3:58:17 PM | | Leatherneck (like any man) is looking for a WIFE not a partner.Only gays and business owners look for partners.Say what you like but they call it the good old days for a reason.The direction society has gone since the 70s has only ruined familes and therefore society.Compare stats (marriage rate,divorce rate,youth crime ect) between the 50s and now and that says it all. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:01:36 PM |
Women like men who are in control - not controling. Just like they like men who are dominant - not domineering. There's a huge difference between the two, both in theory and application. Distinguishing between the two states, and learning how to be the positive of the two states is where a lot of people fail.
vaxplant and cuteguy get it. Thank goodness there are still real men out there. It gives a girl some hope. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:09:11 PM | | What I find so much amusing about the Wilma and Fred analogy is that it was a mockery of suburban USA life. It was clearly the beginning of an attitude that still today persists: that men are helpless and childlike misfits without women. Caveman or suburban rock house dweller. If you grow up believing this then I suppose that seeing the obverse as the commonplace example is probably an interesting lesson in reality for those who choose to learn they were wrong. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back
Posted: 6/26/2008 4:17:41 PM | [I'm attracted to strong, ambitious, determined, willful, decision-making men.]
That's pretty much describing alpha males.
My question to you fancynanci, and other women who are attracted to this type of man is, do you have to offer in return what these guys are looking for in a woman? | |
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