| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 6:07:12 AM |
An alpha male is typically a man's man - tough and no nonsense when they have to be, but, they have a heart of gold and can be as tender as a lamb, particularly when it comes to women and children. You will never hear this guy berate women in any way, shape, or form; even if he's been mishandled or abused in a former relationship. This is the guy who would never hit a woman even if he's provoked to do so.
Greater fear= greater physical and emotional aggression.
A monkey having narrowly escaped the tigers ferocious attack lost his tail. Now he was not what he used to be: he couldn't climb and balance as well and simply looked different. He was displeased with himself and needed a remedy for his situation. What he came up with to fix his situation was to cut off the tails of all other monkeys.
An ideal Alpha Male would posses great understanding of himself and others; he would value those in his company and ensure their assets by acknowledgement and utilization. He would seek not to weaken his allies as this would weaken him also; to attempt to rule by force alone excluding the value of his partners is an expression of weakness and a vain similitude of authority and power. The ideal Alpha Male would value counsel in shaping his objectives, rejecting by good reason what proves unsound. Impulsivity would not exist even with a literal slap in the face because he would, by sound heart and reason maintain the bigger picture along with acute understanding of cause and effect; knowing that leadership is by example even when he stands alone: a pacesetter. He will extoll all attributes of human decency including compassion, tenderness, sympathy and tearfulness with a watchful eye on compulsion; understanding the balance between reason and emotion. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 10:54:57 AM | OOOOOOhhhh the male vs female ego thing!! Yeah!!! I realize that we all have our own unique personalities and however one wants to relate to the opposite sex is their choice.
I think that for many with all the new movements/sex harrassment laws ect. there is so much confusion to be politically correct that we aren't allowed to be ourselves.
***************************************************************************** Olycrappers that is a good point. Many women want a man to do it, and a lot also expect it. Many profiles refer to a ‘Real Man’ and such. What does that mean? I see that as a childish expression to be followed by childish behavior if she doesn’t get her way; even throw a fit if the date is not up to her expectations. No effort on her part, No thanks.
This is a fantastic thread. It makes one realize the idiosyncrasies that men and women have that are hypocritical of the things that they say and do. This is a great way to get down to the core of what we really want, and to learn how properly express, through words and actions, what it is that we are each wanting.
I revise my profile to exclaim what I want, so that others can read it see if they are interested. Thankfully most are not. I have even received hate mail, but most of the women that do email me are very kind, even if it is a negative comment on it. How better to learn how others are perceiving what I write? ***************************************************************************** Translation is this what you were referring to?? Don't worry - I wouldn't think you put your foot in it too bad, there appears to be much worse on here.
The fact is that men and women are not the same, we were not created equal but quite different. That is not a bad thing. I have no desire to try to prove I am as good as any man. I have very different qualities that men don't have and visa versa. I celebrate those differences. I enjoy being treated like a lady, I don't mind letting the man "do the driving" at all as long as he is not acting like I am something he owns like a pet.
What is sad is how much of a battle the sexes go through instead of just enjoying each other. Who the heck really cares who opens the door, I absolutely love to have a door opened for me, however I also can open the door for myself and someone else. Does it have to be some silly battle? I love the strenth men have that I don't, and I love the softness I have that they lack. Together it can create something amazing with the right person.
I have learned to be independant and strong and take care of myself, however that doesn't mean that I don't desire a man that I can run to, have his arms wrap around me and make me feel so damn safe from the harshness of the world, loved and cherished because I am a woman and he is a man. What is wrong with that? I have no desire to be some little June Cleaver, but I certainly am no Hilary Clinton either (both cracteristics are great in their own rights, just extremes). I am confidant enough in who I am that I don't need to prove anything, I don't have support any issue, there is validity to all sides. But for me, I am understanding of the "caveman" idea to a degree. However if that would involve any type of abuse - well he would be running. I can handle a strongwilled man, an abusive one will find himself in the rain. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 12:20:43 PM | ya right OP.the last thing people need around are more dumb ass guys walking around acting like jerks and playing tough guy when in reality they have psychological problems and agression problems and they feel that by doing a thread like u do that it will make it seem like that behavior is normal.i guess your telling us that u have the caveman attitude.funny if that attitude is such the way to go with womens and is the key to success like u say what are u doing still on this site?lol confidence i agree is attractive to womens and a bit of agression or being dominearing in the bedroom some womens might like too but in general being agressive in a relationship womens dont like im sure.unless they are head cases.
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 3:24:08 PM |
Translation is this what you were referring to?? Yes. In fact I have been having self realizations all day long. Idiosyncrasies seem to be my current topic on learning how I relate towards others. It is very fascinating, identifying how others receive the words that I use, and also identifying characteristics of women that I like and/or don’t like. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 3:52:49 PM | Translation - the wonderful thing is that while we may not agree with others opinions we can atleast respect that they have their own. I'd rather have someone be honest and disagree with me then someone lie and parrot me just to get my approval - no respect for someone who can't stand up for what they believe in even if it is against my own opinion.
I admire those who are passionate about their beliefs as long as they are not trying to force them on others. Differences in people can be gifts if seen in the right light. If I am unable to respect another's views and demand that my opinion be accepted as the only right one then I am being narrowminded and limit myself in extreme ways. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 7:19:50 PM | | I am going to bet that no one has witnessed cavemen or cavewomen so what the H are we talking about ? | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 8:27:43 PM | "We need more of a caveman attitude!!"
Sure, if you can club me a brontosaurus steak, I'm all yours!!  | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 9:35:31 PM | Going back to Translations earlier post, as it pertains to me: ... a contradictory self described alpha female role as well as a jerkish intent ....
I am fully aware of any written statements I make and I possess an exceptionally clear sense of self as well as my ability to communicate effectively. I, as well, as many women who are posting here, have a clarity when it comes to the kind of men we enjoy because our prior experiences allow us that clarity. I have no way of debating what you deem 'debatable'. More importantly, I am aware that there was an entire deletion today of your own self analysis in another area of this site where you admit to being a jealous male, and in the same breath, it is stated that you are in full control of your behaviors.
Please. Let us go back to that word: 'contradictory'. If I debate, it will need to be with a male who understands that jealousy is definitely .. guess what? .. a behavior. You are trying to post in a forum in which you have no idea what you are engaging in due to your own contradictory self analysis.
I simply refuse to acknowledge your trivialities re my post because for me to continue to debate the topic of anything in this forum with you would be like flogging a dead horse. A confident male does not have the type of jealousy/behavioral issues that you alluded to when it comes to relationships. With all due respect, having to address each personal jab would be akin to debating with a 13 year old teenager who hasn't matured and doesn't quite grasp the relationship between confidence and the associated behaviors that result from confidence ... one of them NOT being jealousy.
Walk before you run, Translations. I wouldn't even make the attempt to analyze an adult female's personal thought process re men when your comprehension of the said topic, particularly confident men who take control, is vague, due to your own misunderstandings of human behavior.
Other than that, I am totally into the immediate previous posts being made by the ladies as well as the men who continue to be so articulate. XinXinspired and skyman1, my hat off to you. Your posts really make me think; I love them.
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 11:54:54 PM |
I am aware that there was an entire deletion today of your own self analysis in another area of this site where you admit to being a jealous male, and in the same breath, it is stated that you are in full control of your behaviors. Oh man, that sucks. I really liked the jealousy thread. I am a jealous man. If you had read the entire thread then you would have read my entire description and reasoning behind it. To sum it up, jealousy is a trigger that something is, or might be wrong. I went into how it is used for defending your mate and keeping people safe, and the dictionary definition that I referred to - Solicitous or vigilant in maintaining or guarding something: The American people are jealous of their freedom.
I am in full control of my behaviors. Why would you think otherwise?
If I debate, it will need to be with a male who understands that jealousy is definitely .. guess what? .. a behavior. No, in fact, it is not a behavior. Jealousy is a feeling, and with all feelings, it is very readily controlled. Here is another line from the dictionary - a jealous feeling, disposition, state, or mood.
Walk before you run, Translations. I wouldn't even make the attempt to analyze an adult female's personal thought process re men when your comprehension of the said topic, particularly confident men who take control, is vague, due to your own misunderstandings of human behavior. Did you proof read that at all? Yeah, right in the middle there, yep, slightly askew on your direction of thought. Also, show me where you got the idea that I have misunderstandings of human behavior. I have had misunderstandings on a couple of things that you have said, but that is not human behavior.
Do you really want to know what my understanding of your behavior is? I think that you like me. I think that you are flirting with me. I think that you are trying to challenge me in order for you to get my attention. That is my understanding of your behavior. Which may be working, because I smile at your posts; you are very cute.
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 8:44:21 AM | What happened to the Original Topic? Did someone snatch it and dragged it to a cave and it is now being eaten raw or roasted by a caveman and a cavewoman? Anybody done any progress on a time machine (one way, to the past)? | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 11:19:23 AM | What happened to the Original Topic? Did someone snatch it and dragged it to a cave and it is now being eaten raw or roasted by a caveman and a cavewoman? Anybody done any progress on a time machine (one way, to the past). *****************************************************************************
niick - I think T-Rex is on the prowl for runaway topics! | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 12:40:45 PM | Translations, you think I'm flirting with you now?
There's my reply.
Back to the original topic, yes. Basically, I agree with the OP with the exception of the context of that control word he used.
Happy Canada Day to all the Canucks, and Happy 4th Of July to the Americans in a few days when it gets here.  | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 12:43:21 PM | WOW, thanks for a wonderful laugh!
Sorry but if I were to run in to a so called "cave man" he'd have one nasty "fight" on his hands. I never really understood why my mom would call me her "baby Amazon" until I was in my teens. But now that I am older I understand after being able to do some research on the subject of Amazon women.
Sorry cave man, but I just don't think you'd have the intelligence to handle this Amazon
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 6:11:38 PM |
Sorry cave man, but I just don't think you'd have the intelligence to handle this Amazon
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 6:50:28 PM |
"CAPTAIN......CAAAAAAAAVEMAAAAAAAAN!!"
Yes, darling?
No, no, I got rid of all the others....
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/1/2008 7:22:02 PM |
There's my reply. Ok, Liana K, then why did you make such a big issue when I asked you to clarify a line from one of your posts, a post in which I agreed with what you stated?
I may have misread your personality. I see a photo of you smiling, so I think to myself that you are a fairly jovial individual. I must have been wrong. If you were not being facetious, then tell me, how am I to take your comments towards me? Because this is a problem with online communications, I cannot read your face or body language. | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 12:37:28 AM | | Some of those cavewomen were pretty rough. They had to be; prehistoric life was no picnic. More than once a caveman would try to club a prospective mate and she'd kick him in the nuts and take the club away from him. Then she'd beat the shit out of him for forty-five minutes and throw him in the back of a cave, leaving him for the archeologists to find. Tell HER how she'd like to be somewhat controlled in a limited way. Good for her. Who wants some a s s h o l e dragging them around by the hair? | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 6:22:19 AM | Just to insert a bit of humor... I'd not want to go back to "caveman days". They maybe hadn't invented the wheel yet. Gosh, that would mess up my life a lot!!!!! | |
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 6:45:22 AM |
..." Back in the cave man days a man clubbed a girl over the head, took her to his cave and the rest is history."...
You sir, win the internets.
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 7:09:40 AM |
..." Back in the cave man days a man clubbed a girl over the head, took her to his cave and the rest is history."...
If she's down with it, ok, whatever, just don't drag her by her feet or she'll fill up with sand.
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 7:58:11 AM | I'd go for caveman days if more women looked like this - http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/health/256495/caveman-diet-best-for-weight-loss.html
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| Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/2/2008 5:14:21 PM | Translations, moment of truth: I photoshopped all of my photos into smiles to make it look like I am one happy girl .. or 'jovial', as you call it. I'm really not all that jovial and am very facetious. (You have to learn how to pick those things out).
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