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 exodusi1

Joined: 8/19/2006
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/7/2008 11:54:30 AM
Bravo!

Exactly right, not many know that. . . It may have taken awhile, but I'm impressed.
 verygreeneyez

Joined: 3/15/2006
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/7/2008 1:58:26 PM
~OT~ It was designed that any legal US citizen had the right to possess any weapon that our armed forces were privy to. Obviously, that is NO longer the case and obviously it's a good thing that isn't an option. However ~ I have the right to own a gun, keep it in my home and if I choose to have a concealed weapons permit, I have the right to conceal that weapon. Period. I'm not pro- or anti- on this particular issue, I am however ~ exceptionally concerned with what rights I still possess (which, by the way, become fewer and fewer all the time.)
 omega1980

Joined: 3/25/2007
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/7/2008 5:52:59 PM
It's in the constitution...

I'm not a fan of guns and nor am I a gun owner, but I have always been opposed to gun control. I'm a Democrat too... However, I'm not a fan of these "conceal and carry" permits, I have seen way too many people here in California with those permits who shouldn't have them.
 fissionmission

Joined: 4/17/2008
Msg: 304
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/8/2008 4:26:46 AM
After the pro gun people shoot each other out of fear that someone may have a bigger gun.I'll crawl out of my hiding spot and feel like the world is a lot roomier.
It isn't the fact that people have a right to arm and protect themselves it's the idea that
so many people think they need firearms to protect themselves,
Fear is a great motivator for people to do irrational things
 jimtash71

Joined: 3/12/2008
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/8/2008 5:53:49 AM
Our rights are already being taken. First and fourth are already gone, HEBEAS CORPUS is hanging on by a thread. Your guns didn't prevent that!


Prove it. Where has someone been arrested and locked away for exercising those rights in recent times? If it's true, then 95% of the liberals on Democratic Underground would be in jail right now. Yet they're still there spewing their garbage.


am not a gun control nut, I am a Constitutional Nut.


The 2nd was written at a time when private citizens equipped the Continental Army with arms including cannons and warships to fight the British. You should take that into context when interpreting it.

The 2nd gives me the right to own modern military small arms as was defined at the time it was written. It has absolutely nothing to do with hunting or target shooting. It does have everything to do with self preservation and the ability to hold the government at bay and accountable for it's actions.



*- Edited to remove flame. Address the topic -Not the Poster -TheMadFiddler-*
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:58:33 PM
Padawan- As I'm a member of that white rural working class ethos, I think I know exactly what a redneck is. Dictionaries ain't all they are cracked up to be. I fall more towards the "Southern Gentleman" category as I've actualy attended college and have a pair of degrees, but I also still go back home to the farm to do my huntin' & fishin' even though I now live in the 'Burbs in a brick home that doesn't have wheels...

And as Kanye West can attest, if you are a member of the race being slurred, you get to USE that slur as much as you want! But if one is going to classify "redneck" as a slur, one would have to arrest Jeff Foxworthy immediately.

Verygreeneyes- Not Quite Correct, there. If you have the proper licenses, you CAN own dang near anything the Military has. Class 3 machine gun licenses are rare, but issued to those with the proper credentials. Strangely enough, there is no license that can own a tank...except for a Museum Curator.
 ibscrooge

Joined: 3/18/2008
Msg: 307
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/8/2008 9:55:31 PM
Actually there are no laws regarding owning a tank anyone may own a tank you just cannot own the weapons systems for that tank as they are military property and many of the guidance systems are classified. Anyone though may own the chassis if they would care to and in many places cities and townships have purchased them and even parks to put on display. Same thing for aircraft and in fact if you have the money you can even purchase older military aircraft for your own use. Many of these military aircraft are used by private owners in airshows. As a side note (in case anyone wants to know) you may even purchase a brand new built for you WWII or WWI aircraft made from original dies and plans at a company based in Florida. Cost to you a measily Million bucks
 maxxoccupancy

Joined: 2/5/2007
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/9/2008 10:33:48 PM
This one should be obvious. The Supreme Court just has not been doing its job of protecting our Constitutional rights in these dark times. We also have to fight at the state and local level to defend rights enshrined in the Constitution. I'm a member of the Free State Project in New Hampshire, and this is a nearly constant battle. pledgebank.com/Next1000 and nhliberty.org have a lot of info for activism up here. I don't think that we can just depend on the courts. We really have to get down to voting out bad politicians at all levels.
 bigshrek

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/10/2008 5:45:40 AM
Hrm...ok, I wanna tank now :) Just one of the 6-wheeled ones as a SHTF vehicle for the next hurricane...hehehe
 Ezzee

Joined: 7/26/2004
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Court: A constitutional right to a gun
Posted: 7/20/2008 4:24:07 AM
Well, DC instituted a new gun law, and this one appears to be just as tough and looks like it is also on it's way to the Supreme Court. DC may never get this right.


By Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The doors opened Thursday to post-handgun ban era here, with gun rights advocates vowing another legal challenge to the city's newly approved gun control law.

Less than a month after the Supreme Court overturned the city's 32-year-old handgun ban — the most restrictive in the nation — the same litigant in the landmark case appeared at police headquarters and said he likely would wage a new fight.

D.C. GUN BAN: Read the court's decision

Dick Heller, whose legal challenge prompted the Supreme Court ruling, said he would challenge new city regulations that continue to ban District residents from owning semi-automatic weapons.

"The city still does not yet understand the decision of the Supreme Court," Heller said from the steps of police headquarters. "We have been denied again."

The court struck down the handgun ban June 26, and established for the first time in U.S. history that the Constitution's Second Amendment gives individuals the right to keep guns at home for self-defense. But the court also indicated that a person's right to gun ownership is not unlimited.

Dane von Breichenruchardt, president of the Bill of Rights Foundation, said the city was attempting to make gun ownership as "difficult and restrictive as possible."

"We're going to be back in court. There is no doubt about that," he said.

Under terms of the emergency law, passed earlier this week by the D.C. Council, residents must obtain a city-issued handgun permit and may keep handguns only in their homes for self-defense purposes.

The permits require every gun owner to pass a written test and vision exam, submit the weapons for ballistic testing and offer proof of residency.

The provisions still rank as some of the toughest in the nation. But perhaps the most controversial aspect of the law, gun rights advocates say, mandates that gun owners keep their weapons unloaded, disassembled or secured with trigger locks, unless they face a "threat of immediate harm."

The National Rifle Association has signaled it also will challenge the new D.C. regulation, describing the law as extreme and in "complete defiance of the Supreme Court's decision."

"The current D.C. proposal requires the complete cooperation of the criminal," NRA spokesman Andrew Akulanandum. "It would require the criminal to call and tell you when they plan to come and attack you."

D.C. Assistant Police Chief Peter Newsham said the regulations can be "interpreted" in various ways. "But this isn't a 'gotcha' program. We're trying to accommodate people," he said.

When the doors opened to prospective gun owners at 7 a.m. Thursday, only one other applicant was waiting. Ron Jones, 33, said he had not yet purchased a handgun, but planned to get a start on the registration process.

"I'm interested in self-defense. It's our constitutional right. I'm here to exercise that right. The way things are now, with the kids and the mischief they are making, what are we supposed to do? They have the guns already," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-07-17-gun-ban_N.htm
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