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Do any of you realize how much money the US owes the orient for this ****ed up war ?

has anyone stopped to think of all of the low paid labor that North Korea will provide to the world once sanctions are lifted?

Santa will get a lot more elves

maybe now we can add the republican party. to the terror list.

I think we are all living in a momentous time in world history and the world we all live in will be unrecognisable by 2012. (That year is starting to look to me like one that will be written about in history books.)

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the current existence and risk of the proliferation of weapons-usable fissile material on the Korean Peninsula constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. I further find that, as we deal with that threat through multilateral diplomacy, it is necessary to continue certain restrictions with respect to North Korea that would otherwise be lifted pursuant to a forthcoming proclamation that will terminate the exercise of authorities under the Trading With the Enemy Act (50 U.S.C. App. 1 et seq.) (TWEA) with respect to North Korea.

Accordingly, I hereby order:

Section 1. Except to the extent provided in statutes or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, the following are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

all property and interests in property of North Korea or a North Korean national that, pursuant to the President's authorities under the TWEA, the exercise of which has been continued in accordance with section 101(b) of Public Law 95-223 (91 Stat. 1625; 50 U.S.C. App. 5(b) note), were blocked as of June 16, 2000, and remained blocked immediately prior to the date of this order.

Sec. 2. Except to the extent provided in statutes or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, United States persons may not register a vessel in North Korea, obtain authorization for a vessel to fly the North Korean flag, or own, lease, operate, or insure any vessel flagged by North Korea.

Sec. 3. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 4. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 5. The Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit the recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)).

Sec. 7. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

June 26, 2008.

WASHINGTON: During an off-the-record session with a group of foreign-policy experts this week, Vice President****Cheney got a question he did not want to answer. "Vice President," asked one of them, "I understand that on Wednesday or Thursday we are going to de-list North Korea from the terrorism blacklist. Could you please set the context for this decision?"

Cheney froze, according to four of the participants at the Old Executive Office Building meeting. For more than 30 minutes he had been talking and answering questions, without missing a beat. But now, for several long seconds, he stared, unsmilingly, at his questioner, Steven Clemons of the New America Foundation, a public policy institution.

Finally, he spoke: "I'm not going to be the one to announce this decision," the other participants recalled Cheney saying, pointing at himself. "You need to address your interest in this to the State Department."

He then declared that he was done taking questions, and left the room.

^^^ sure .... but the point of this thread is about the hypocracy of negotiating with terrorists and the double standard with NK vs Iran.

Look at the nuclear programs in North Korea, Iran
By The Associated Press – 2 hours ago

North Korea and Iran have nuclear programs. Each country entertained offers from the United States and others to get rid of those programs or scale them back. The similarities end there. What is known about the programs in each country:

NORTH KOREA:

The government poured money into a plutonium bomb program beginning in the 1980s or before. It built a working plutonium reactor in the early part of that decade. Records handed over to international negotiators this past week cover work at the Yongbyon complex going back to 1986. The records show the facility produced roughly 40 kilograms (about 90 pounds) of plutonium, although not all was usable for bombs. North Korea is estimated to have between six and 10 bombs, or the means to make them. It tested a crude nuclear device in October 2006.

IRAN:

The government has a uranium program, which can be used to develop nuclear energy or to build a bomb. Iran claims it wants to produce energy. While the U.S. and others are skeptical, there is little hard evidence of a weapons program now. Iran has alarmed the West and Israel by speeding up its development program. It is thought to have about 3,400 centrifuges spinning to enrich uranium. It had perhaps 500 two years ago. Estimates vary for how long it might take Iran to develop a working bomb; but most analysts think that day is at least two years off.