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 Kindredspirit07

Joined: 7/29/2005
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:02:36 AM
I would rather use martial arts and kick the crap out of them myself. My 6'6 rambo could come, applaude and say " that's my girl ". Now that would be cool! A Gi-Jane moment.
 capricorn40

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:12:58 AM
Okay...so based on your mental whatever primitive type that obviously is, this means that if men go start fights and get drunk in bar parking lots and re remind us of this act of stupor and ignorance, we as women are supposed to use this Merit you claim to choose to be with you???????????????

It's like i stated in my first reply, your topic OP is a stunt to see if this act and/or made up tale will interest some women as to get them to email you and for you to hope they see this topic in your profile forum list on the page bottom.

I know you don't like me, because scam artist hate those of us whom see through them. I saved a 5 year olds child once literally!!! But i am not going to make a topic about it to gain supposed fame and glory.

I noticed how your fabled stunt tale even went on to say in your initial post...(something that happened a long time ago) Yes you typed that in there . So, even were this tale true, to bring it up now would only mean to produce a stunt scenerio in a forum in of course your choice of Ask a Girl.

I'll say it again (YOU WERE DRUNK AND WERE IN FIGHTS IN A BAR PARKING LOT) Con Rap artist can take even crimes and turn it into justifying glory to those that are lesser in intelligence. Some of us are realist in the way we see what is as is!!


IamKaren,
All I can say is...Wow.

Guess this mean no dinner date between us.

Sorry you feel this is a scam. Maybe if I said I rescued a baby from a burning building you might feel I was attention seeking.

Why should I dislike you because you see things differently than me?

You think I'm a liar and a scam artist, fair enough. We can agree to disagree.
I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise, but I honestly wanted a opinon on what women felt about men being aggresive toward a viable threat to them.
And yeah, ASK A GIRL, because I wanted A GIRL's thoughts.
Whether it happen yesterday or 20 years ago, I still think it was a valid question.

I also have plenty of forum contributions on my profile.
 capricorn40

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:25:53 AM

God.. I dated the talker.. it was extremely irritating! Especially since I have a temper.. I always ended up being the one fighting for the honor

We were out with friends one night... a few people I didn't know that he did know showed up... just friends of friends somehow I guess.. regardless, two of these huge sleezy guys (that I didn't know) thought it would be funny to rub all on me and yell "gang bang!!"

I immediately and obviously uncomfortabley looked over at my boyfriend like "um help!" and he was laughing!! laughing at these guys that neither of us knew rubbing their nasty crotches on me! I couldn't F*ing believe it!

Don't worry I raised hell!


Limeshines, great post!
This kinda what I was REALLY looking to hear. My situation was more or less, cut and dry. I had to do SOMETHING. GF was basically attacked.
However, in your case you were being harrassed by, in your mind, strangers.
They were molesting you, plain and simple. If you were with me, I'd probably say something like what the hell are you doing and make them apoligise to you.
If they didn't back down, what do you think I should have done? Just grabbed you and walk away? Give them a stern talking? Go get the manager?
 nocatchyname

Joined: 1/15/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:08:38 AM
In a situation like limeshines, you simply get out of your chair, walk over and take her out of the situation. It's fairly easy, I've had to do it on several occasions to get female friends out of perdicaments like this, or other unwanted attention from guys. You can always laugh about it as you are walking up, or walking away. (Sidenote, maybe if he was dancing with you, it wouldn't been happening to begin with lol)

Personally, I'm a talker. I'm not afraid to stand up if walking away isn't an option, but even at that, I'm not likely to throw it down beyond what's needed to control the situation. I have talked my way, and walked away from fights a lot, not worth it, call me the 'coward of the county' just don't forget what happens at the end of the song. It helps that in most situations I have a height advantage, and I have enough aquaintences who would back me so I wouldn't have to worry about being beat by more than one guy.

The thing about attackers, as a thought, is that they would be quite jittery in public. All it could've taken was a "HEY!" and walking towards them. Calling attention to a situation will, I would think, make them back off. I don't know, I live in a small town, near a small city, not a lot of stuff like that would happen to a degree where it'd be a dangerous situation.
 UrsulaMajor

Joined: 6/21/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:22:07 AM
Hmm, I agree with nocatchyname's approach, I would not like someone escalating a situation out of some misplaced sense of defending my honor. More likely, fighting will result in injuries, possible police involvement, and/or jail, all over something that could have been walked away from and dismissed.

Do we have to take down all the idiots in the world? Or can we ignore them? I don't think that makes one "cowardly" at all; it makes one an adult.
 Limeshines

Joined: 10/22/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:24:32 AM
Idk.. I didn't handle the situation very well haha.. yelling a string of profanities, some pushing, some threatening to cut off the male reproductive organ..

I should be more careful.. the only thing big about me is my mouth :(

I definately agree with Nocatchy... It would have been SO nice if my guy would have just walked over "hey fellas, come on darlin our movie starts in 15" got me out of there and then complained about it in the car! haha.. I definately like that approach opposed to fighting..
 Miss W

Joined: 12/4/2006
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:32:07 AM
This is another Cali-Soldier type topic people. This topic was an attempt to get the OP emails from various women describing what a hero he is.

I am highly familiar with this particular type of recurring thread, but I don't think that the OP is seeking attention as a "hero" for egotistical purposes as he has a valid point about whether or not it is best to talk or act. I think that in this particular situation, with his lady friend being in danger that he acted appropriately.


God.. I dated the talker.. it was extremely irritating! Especially since I have a temper.. I always ended up being the one fighting for the honor

Been there, done that. I am usually mellow, easy going and mind my own business until I am violated and then watch out. I once had a biker compliment me on how I take care of myself. It surprises people as I look rather girly.

 nocatchyname

Joined: 1/15/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:43:19 AM

I don't think that makes one "cowardly" at all; it makes one an adult.

I was referring to the Kenny Rogers song "Coward of the County" Where the sound advice "You don't have to fight to be a man" is given. But as the young man in the song figures out after his love had (suggested she had) been raped by three other men..."sometimes [extreme cases] you have to fight to be a man."
 gypsy_rose85

Joined: 6/23/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:43:42 AM
well.....honestly....i would want my man to let me get a few hits in myself...i don't mind and even enjoy having a man around that will defend me but i am no delicate flower ether...
 JadeMuse

Joined: 11/3/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:56:37 AM
If I am handling the situation (whether it is the way he would handle it or not), it is nice to know he's paying attention enough to notice the "all clear" subtle signal that I was O.K... To be reactionary would be absolutely RUDE, and could escalate unnecessarily.

Now, if I am being MANHANDLED by three guys, that is clearly NOT the subtle 'I am O.K.' signal I'm talkin' 'bout!
In that case, kick some butt, pretty-please!
--I would have "YOUR six," too!
 capricorn40

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:05:40 AM

I am highly familiar with this particular type of recurring thread, but I don't think that the OP is seeking attention as a "hero" for egotistical purposes as he has a valid point about whether or not it is best to talk or act. I think that in this particular situation, with his lady friend being in danger that he acted appropriately.


Thanks MissW.
I actually did do a search on this type of thread and the only thing I saw remotely close was what would someone do if they saw a couple arguing. Would the a guy intervine if the other guy got physical with the gf.
I have to admit. Maybe yelling a "hey" at them might have got them to back off because they didn't know she was with me.

But, this thread isn't about what I should have done. My main focus was what do the women feel I should have done.
If the women feels I was being a primeval jerk and acted irrational, then I take it full on-board. Or does the woman, deep down, is glad she has someone that will rush to her defence.
I'm glad there are differences of opinions. I'm really getting some fantastic insight!
 capricorn40

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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:17:18 AM

If I am handling the situation (whether it is the way he would handle it or not), it is nice to know he's paying attention enough to notice the "all clear" subtle signal that I was O.K... To be reactionary would be absolutely RUDE, and could escalate unnecessarily.

Now, if I am being MANHANDLED by three guys, that is clearly NOT the subtle 'I am O.K.' signal I'm talkin' 'bout!


Exactly JadeMuse.
I was a DJ during the 80's. I use to have my gf hang out in the clubs while I was spinning. Because she was sitting at the bar on her own, she would get lot's of guys talking to her. I'd keep checking up on her and she'd just smile to let me know everything is cool and I go about my business. She is an adult. Don't need me interfering.

Manhandled is a totally different thing.
I want to caveat and say these things ONLY would happen whenever the lady I was with was on her own, so I'm guessing this only happens when the guy/guys think this woman is some lone mark waiting to be move on.
 capricorn40

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:29:22 AM

The thing about attackers, as a thought, is that they would be quite jittery in public. All it could've taken was a "HEY!" and walking towards them. Calling attention to a situation will, I would think, make them back off. I don't know, I live in a small town, near a small city, not a lot of stuff like that would happen to a degree where it'd be a dangerous situation.


Interesting Nocatchyname!
So maybe it has a lot to do with cultural upbringing?
I was the opposite. I was brought up in the inner large city. One guy approaching 3 guys would not make them run off in my neck of the woods. However, this did happen in a small town setting.
I'm also thinking, ladies, how would a woman that lives in, I don't know, Helena Montana would feel about it versus Chicago, Illinos.
 nocatchyname

Joined: 1/15/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 12:53:15 PM

So maybe it has a lot to do with cultural upbringing?

Probably. I mean if it was in a public area, approaching, while calling attention to the situation (yelling loudly so that the public in the area would also hear), could possibly be enough. Not a lot of people like the idea of being caught doing something they shouldn't be.
I really don't know though, I've never seen this type of situation where I'd be overly afraid (meaning I probably wouldn't get too seriously injured and 95% sure I wouldn't have the possibility of getting shot or stabbed) approaching even if something did break out.

On the flipside...the thought of living in the inner of a large city scares the hell outta me.
 Maddie51

Joined: 4/22/2005
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Posted: 6/27/2008 2:22:52 PM
You absolutely did the right thing Capricorn. Your best weapon was the element of surprise. If you had gone up to try and reason with them, who knows what would have happened.

Kudos for caring for your lady enough to defend her physically.
 raiderfan18

Joined: 11/25/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 4:16:57 PM
NO they could have had weapons. The element of surprise was on your side and I think you did exactly the right thing. I've had to smack a few dumb butts at clubs...

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Fighting for your honor
Posted: 6/27/2008 4:38:05 PM

Okay...so based on your mental whatever primitive type that obviously is, this means that if men go start fights and get drunk in bar parking lots and re remind us of this act of stupor and ignorance, we as women are supposed to use this Merit you claim to choose to be with you???????????????

It's like i stated in my first reply, your topic OP is a stunt to see if this act and/or made up tale will interest some women as to get them to email you and for you to hope they see this topic in your profile forum list on the page bottom.

I know you don't like me, because scam artist hate those of us whom see through them. I saved a 5 year olds child once literally!!! But i am not going to make a topic about it to gain supposed fame and glory.

I noticed how your fabled stunt tale even went on to say in your initial post...(something that happened a long time ago) Yes you typed that in there . So, even were this tale true, to bring it up now would only mean to produce a stunt scenerio in a forum in of course your choice of Ask a Girl.

I'll say it again (YOU WERE DRUNK AND WERE IN FIGHTS IN A BAR PARKING LOT) Con Rap artist can take even crimes and turn it into justifying glory to those that are lesser in intelligence. Some of us are realist in the way we see what is as is!!


Somebody's had a bad day.





OT - shoot first, ask questions later.
 nicegirl4love

Joined: 10/26/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 4:39:49 PM
I'd SO want a Rambo moment ~ even if bouncers would have come, or the police were around the corner, I'd want to know that my BF can and WILL throw down in extreme circumstances!

My dad used to be with the RCMP (canadian police) and told me of stories of home invasions where the man did nothing and the woman was raped. Even tho he would have most likely been murdered if he'd tried to help her, their marriages ended over it. He'd see them 2 years later at the trial or something, and they couldn't even look each other in the eye.
 thatswhatshesaid

Joined: 12/28/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 5:59:15 PM
Well, If I were 6"6 and 270 I'd trash people for waaaaaaaay less than that. Heck, I'd never stop fighting.

My BF's kinda skinny, though, so I wouldn't want him to try and do what you did.
 AlexisTaylor

Joined: 7/9/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 6:29:00 PM
The odds are that I'm not going to be gentle and up for a little conversation on the subject of grabbing me. I'm with your girl there, I'd be pushing or whatever it took. I'd prefer that my man/man-friend charged in as well. There is a time for action and a time for mediation- when your gal is being jumped in one fashion or another, is one of the former.

Kudos for you. :)

It's really unfortunate, but it seems to be a pretty common experience outside of clubs. It's happened to a lot of my girlfriends over the years.
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:36:35 PM
Whichever one works, really. As a rule... in my mind, talking first is best, but I have no delusions that it's a foolproof way to get rid of creeps.
 David440

Joined: 6/23/2008
Msg: 47
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:12:26 PM
two words ,,,, attention seeking,,, wow
 whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:24:56 PM
I don't believe in "fighting for honor," but in this case, I think the woman was in trouble.

With me, I'd probably lose my head bad enough that it would be covered before the boyfriend arrived on the scene. But then, it's been a long, long time before any scary guy has pestered me. I quite literally will make a scene to wake up an entire town and all becomes fair game, including eyeballs.
 _Red_

Joined: 12/14/2006
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:32:54 PM
Definitely Rambo and in that situation, without a doubt, I believe you did the right thing. One on one would have been different and words alone probably would have sufficed but in that case, I think your instincts were right.
 capricorn40

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 6/27/2008 11:51:49 PM

My BF's kinda skinny, though, so I wouldn't want him to try and do what you did.


Interesting, Thatswhatshesaid.
First of all, I want to state there no right or wrong answer.
So I'm really interested to hear what would you want you BF to do if you were being manhandled.
I think it's pretty cool you are wouldn't want him to go "medival" on some guys attacking you, but how would you feel he should handle it?
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