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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 1:34:43 PM | A while ago A&E had a real - life drama type show on that took place in a tattoo parlor,...
I usually have the TV on as background noise, so I can sleep,...hey,...it helps but occasionally it does capture my attention as well,...
On this particular show they had a big,...burley biker type dude on wanting to get a tattoo on his inside shoulder,....the tat was a portrait of his child,...a baby girl laying on her favorite baby blanket also draped over his shoulder,....
He said his daughter was the age of the tattoo picture when she died of cancer,.....and it was that shoulder he used to carry her around on while she was getting treatment and ultimately dying,.....
(I blubbered like a baby when I heard that as did a few of the worker's in the shop,..)
Not all tattoo's are for stupid reason's like the ENJOYMENT of pain,....
apparently some get one to elevate it,....
I have actually contemplating getting one or two myself since I heard that story,....but
perhaps I haven't suffered enough yet for that,..... | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 1:52:44 PM | Granny, get all the tat's ya want, they are for you not others.
Because a tattoo is not your choice or adornment, why bash others that do like them?
I have a characature of my ex on my shoulder, we had 23 good years and she meant the world to me. In fact I soon will get a characture of my mom/dad because I miss them much and it will make me smile to carry them with me.
Some people have nothing more to do than worry about what others do with their life, let alone live the perfect life in the glass house they seem to think they do exist in..
So...you go granny! enjoy your life it's the only one you have!
dusty | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 1:55:31 PM | ^^^"Tattooing in the US has very little to no societal and historical
or cultural relevance........"
pro or con, it doesn't matter, but I care enough to point out the obvious:
although the majority of people who "discovered" America where from alien/foreign lands, they also brought with them tattoo lore and even tattoos, and even many of our true original native Americans tattooed themselves --both men and women--for whatever reasons, but I doubt because they were making a fashion statement or following a fad rolleyes: | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 2:08:14 PM | I am in constant amazement at people who respond to those who seek attention by negative means...they have nothing in their life to show for anything...they are bitter and lonely and will just continue to spout out their ignorance based on information found on the Internet..not from actual life experience.
Everyone reading this understands how petty and small their mind is but when you respond to them they want to bask in glory that finally in desperation they got a reaction, validation from another person without realizing that this negativity is the reason they are forced to turn to such drastic measures to start with. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 2:16:45 PM |
It's my opinion young and old people alike, DO GET tattoos for attention, why else ? Cuz it feels good ? I don't think so. Are you going to tell me you don't like it when people ask about or comment on your tats, or do ya only like it when folks compliment them?
Well since mine is a "tramp stamp", no one sees it unless I allow them to. So no attention getting here.
As to the gentleman who said that a tramp stamp is only for one purpose.....get a grip. Just because a woman has a tat there doesn't make her a slut. Only one person has seen my tat in person, and he is the only one. I have shown a picture to family and friends. That's it. Narrow mindedness is not a pretty thing. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 2:38:52 PM |
both men and women--for whatever reasons, but I doubt because they were making a fashion statement or following a fad
Then I suspect you'd be wrong,....
there's a reason there are tattoo parlors springing up all over,...not just in the seedy underbelly of towns where they had been located in the past but in many trendy malls,....
that being many folks do get them because it's trendy and very in vogue right now,......
It's not confined to sailors or ex con's any more,....
but as previously stated there are many reasons people choose to get inked or pierced,...and until someone ties you all to be tied down and inked against your will,....why does anyone care what someone else does to their own bodies,....
don't all you worriers have enough on your own plates to worry about?
BTW the history of tattoo began over 5000 years ago and is as diverse as the people who wear them,.... A direct quote from the below site,....
http://www.designboom.com/history/tattoo_history.html
I'm not sure anything this old can be considered a fad but it's popularity waxes and wanes | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 3:43:48 PM | I know many women who have gotten the "tramp stamp" and I don't really wanna say it...but yes....they were trashy, actually....everyone I know that has gotten a tat there DOES have a redneck lifestyle, they live off welfare and they DO sleep around. These women aren't over 45 either. They are usually in there 20's. They seem to be setting the tramp stamp standard.
What am I supposed think ?
I ain't sayin' everyone that gets one is a tramp or trashy. I'm just sayin'...the ones I know ARE !
Does that mean I'm judgin' harshly ? or just judgin'....heck we all do it.
I really don't want to judge at all dayum it ! ! ! ...but ya'll make me  
(sunny throws her sucker down...walks out of the room) | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 4:30:28 PM |
both men and women--for whatever reasons, but I doubt because they were making a fashion statement or following a fad
Then I suspect you'd be wrong,....
out of context, I agree with you, but if you read the beginning of that sentence you'd know that I was referring to some early American natives, not the modern citizens of the last 2 centuries. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 5:27:14 PM |
both men and women--for whatever reasons, but I doubt because they were making a fashion statement or following a fad
Then I suspect you'd be wrong,....
out of context, I agree with you, but if you read the beginning of that sentence you'd know that I was referring to some early American natives, not the modern citizens of the last 2 centuries.
Your right of course,......My bad,....I stand corrected
humans have been in the America's some 20,000 years , so why bring them ( Ancient Natives), into this debate at all,......I mean I'm sure they wore dreadlocks back then too but people of today don't wear them because ancient man wore them,.....I'm guessing those of today wear them because of fashion,....not because a comb hadn't been invented yet,....
I haven't looked it up,...because I don't care enough,...and we're getting off track,....
so I promise to debate in this century,....maybe a bit from the one prior but most certainly only the parts I was alive in,... | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 6:18:39 PM | I really don't want to judge at all dayum it ! ! ! ...but ya'll make me
How do I make you judge? You do that all on your own SunnyTexas.
Just because you "know" people who are trashy and happen to have a tramp stamp, that means everyone with a tramp stamp must be trashy.
I could use preconcieved stereotypes about you as well, because of where you are from and your accent. But just because you have an accent and come from a different part of the country, doesn't make it so.
Why not judge each person as an individual? Make sense to me, and has served me well in my life. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 7:53:12 PM | Just because you "know" people who are trashy and happen to have a tramp stamp, that means everyone with a tramp stamp must be trashy.
Now you know, I clarified my opinion that was not so...so don't go there. I contradicted such in my post and you know it.
Oh c'mon we all judge. It's just our nature. I would just like to be proved wrong, so I don't do that anymore. I ain't sayin' it's right. I'm not perfect, but no one is. I've never met a woman nor have I ever seen or heard of a woman getting a tramp stamp when they are in their forties. Power to 'em. But if you want opinions and that's what this topic is about...well I got one and so do you.
I didn't not say...and I made it perfectly clear....in my earlier post, that the only ones I've seen were on trashy women. I never said everyone that has one, is one. It's my personal experience on the issue.
As far as my accent goes, it's not as thick as ya think. I'm just m'self. Can't pretend otherwise, so I tend to type like I speak is all. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 7:54:55 PM |
I know many women who have gotten the "tramp stamp" and I don't really wanna say it...but yes....they were trashy, actually....everyone I know that has gotten a tat there DOES have a redneck lifestyle, they live off welfare and they DO sleep around. These women aren't over 45 either. They are usually in there 20's. They seem to be setting the tramp stamp standard.
Honestly...I did not know whether I wanted to laugh my ass off, or cry...at this comment. Cry because you must know a lot of really sad people...or laugh at the hilarity of it? Tats do not come cheap...wait...rephrase...quality tats do not come cheap. (Someone on welfare has no business spending that sort of money on a tat, actually!) My daughter...21...pre-law student and employed by the school district...virgin till 19, still with same partner..."tramp stamp" as first tattoo. Believe me...if you ever were graced by hers or my presence, the last thing that would cross your mind would be "trashy."
Den...only because YOU made it relevant to the topic with your weird twisting of tales...someone does not choose to not have an epidural so that they can experience the pain, dippitysh1t! They choose to consider their infants health over their own pain threshold...or they want as natural of a process, as possible. You wanna spout history crap of tats...then spout some history of childbirth, as well. Go ahead...make yourself sound even more unintelligent! ;)
We get it...YOU dislike tats. SO DON'T GET ONE. :) But don't try some lame ass attempt at reverse psychology, or try to lump us ALL into a category of being pain addicted, attention seeking, etc....that is about as stupid as if I were to say anyone who does not have any ink is a pvssy! | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:00:56 PM | | don't really like the whole back thing or even on the arm of a woman. a small one around the midriff is pretty sexy | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:00:56 PM | Harley, I'm sure your daughter is a wonderful lady, she has an excellent role model. It would be a pleasure to meet you both. I'm sorry but I didn't want to offend you and certainly hope you aren't. I appreciate your forthright communication, not get snarky and discussing this like a true lady.
That's all I'm tryin' to do.
Yes I do know alot of sad, sad people in this world, but not all have tats. But sad indeed. But I know more happy fulfilled people. I have friends or all backgrounds. I bet you do too. Takes all kinds to make this world go 'round and I thank God ever'day he made us all different. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 9:28:58 PM | What did Forrest Gump's mother say? "Stupid is as stupid does."
Tattooing in the US has very little to no societal and historical or cultural relevance. . . it has no real US, societal 'history'...........zilch
Since when is a person limited to "societal, historical, or cultural" relevance? Let's see, blacks should only speak Ebonics because the speech patterns emulate their historically "correct" language? People who are not Christian shouldn't get Christmas presents because they don't buy into the virgin birth of Christ? I am of Scots descent, so I suppose I should be painting my body blue with woad and charging naked into battle? For those of us who are a mixture of cultures, what are we to do? Should the drop of blood of from my Cherokee fourth great grandmother fight with the blood of her Caucasian oppressors?
The history of the US is very short and because many of us are a compilation of different backgrounds, we remember little of our cultural history, so we make our own. No one "owns" the art of tattooing, and over the years, it has evolved--just like humans and just like cultures.
Saying that people should refrain from doing something because it crosses "cultural" barriers is like telling the Jews to stay in the ghettos, blacks to stay in Harlem, and Native Americans to stay on the reservations.
It's also aberrant behavior that has forced its way in a convoluted fashion, almost into mainstream 'female style'.
Tattoos are mainstream. They are no longer considered "aberrant" and even the most staid women and men are getting them. I teach at a college, and no one blinks at the tats on my ankles, hands, and shoulders.
most times it simply HAS no significance
Who are you to judge the significance of a tattoo to a person? Personal significance is just as important as cultural significance.
My tats go beyond "art"; I am a neo-pagan, and each one represents a facet of my spirituality.
tattooing by a bunch of overweight white/Anglo women (or men for that matter), has no filial or cultural tradition.
One should be skinny before she gets a tattoo? Who made up THAT rule?
The oldest known tattoos are those of Otzi, the mummified ice man, found on the border of Austria and Italy. Looks like Europeans were tattooing long before the peoples of Egypt, New Zealand, Samoa, or Pre Columbian America.
You can think tattooing is stupid, but don't pull the "holier than thou" routine with culture--in a world where cultures blend, it is a moot point. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/8/2008 11:38:43 PM |
humans have been in the America's some 20,000 years , so why bring them ( Ancient Natives), into this debate at all
I was mainly responding to another that did bring up that "Tattooing in the US has very little to no societal and historical or cultural relevance....."
it was my opinion that it did. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 4:46:39 AM | Sunny...I aplogize for coming across snarky...lol...and I enjoy your posts! I think you are very clear in your opinions, without being so conforming in thoughts, that you cannot change them! ;)
I just truly found it sad that the primary examples of the people you have met with "Tramp Stamps" are such poor examples. Truly. It's no different than any other stereotype....EVERYONE pays the price for someone elses actions.
You know...I got a naval piercing about 11 years ago...LONG before "everyone" was doing it. (and when I could pull it off! LMAO) I did such for ME. But when it suddenly became something that 9 out of 10 women hosted...I took it out and stopped wearing it, partially because of the stereotype associated with such. It just got old. Tats are something that this won't occur with...because each one is individual and unique and a personal statement or expression or meaning. :)
Since when is a person limited to "societal, historical, or cultural" relevance?
Gwendolyn....THANK YOU for stating such! I could not find accurate words for what I was feeling when I read the post in which you were replying to! You said it wonderfully! WHO CARES about social or cultural relevance?! | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 5:52:11 AM |
It's my opinion young and old people alike, DO GET tattoos for attention, why else ? Cuz it feels good ? I don't think so. Are you going to tell me you don't like it when people ask about or comment on your tats, or do ya only like it when folks compliment them?
Although there are other reasons why people get tats, what is wrong with wanting attention?
Many of us ask for attention everyday. We dress in a certain way, we wear our hair in a certain way, we drive certain cars--all consciously or subconsciously designed to draw attention to ourselves. Some people might want to blend into the woodwork, but the rest of us like to be noticed.
I have hair past my waist. It is rare for two days to pass without a stranger stopping me to comment on my hair. Should I get my hair cut so I won't call attention to myself? Should I wear a sackcloth and go barefoot so people's attention won't be drawn to me? Oh, wait! If I do that, I would draw even more attention, but not the type I want.
Or, because long hair on an old woman is not "historically or culturally" relevant (hence, the plethora of women over 40 who cut their hair short and perm or spike it), perhaps I should cut it and look like every other 55 year old woman.
Of course I like it when people compliment my tats; I like it when they compliment my hair, my dress, my shoes, my smile, and even my cleavage (which usually only comes from people who know me a bit better and not from strangers). Interestingly enough, I live in backwoods Missouri, not exactly a hotbed of cutting edge styles, yet NO ONE has ever made a disparaging remark about my tattoos. Why? Because they have become mainstream.
We all have opinions about what constitutes "stupid." I think it looks stupid for a person to dangle his/her glasses off his/her nose when posing for a picture, but hey, that's MY opinion! I think it is "stupid" for men to wear toupees and for women to plaster an inch of make-up on their faces, but I don't live in their skins--if what they are doing makes them feel better about themselves, so be it. I know why they do it, and it goes back to that "attention" and projection/image factor.
It is ironic that I have been contacted on POF and other dating sites by men who say they don't like tats or stress that they have none. It seems that for some women, those men will make exceptions. Snort. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 6:04:16 AM | Well it took me over 10 years of thinking planning designing and finally getting my first tattoo ,loved it then love it now, some 8 yrs later this past march I designed and got my second tattoo.......can't say I've ever regretted getting them, I got then for no one but myself..... | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 7:43:34 AM | thanks HarleyKat,....I can appreciate it when others can constructively argue a point with me without animosity. I believe it makes us better communicators.
Gwendolyn, as far as "attention seeking" goes...I say  way to go ! Yes ! tatteese (a person with tats)do like attention just like everyone else, but it's those that deny such that irk me. They'll get a tattoo where THEY can't see it at all, lest they backed up to a mirror and TRIED to see it....yet, they say they got it for themselves only, when it's obvious that only OTHER people will ever notice.
I do think it's possible for some older women to appreciate the artwork and adornment and it's those women, who have considered it, pondered it and did it....that I can respect. Grown women in their forties, seldom make spontaneous decisions. So those that do get tattoes, aren't done so on a whim.
I'm sure there are alot of things I do and wear that aren't age appropriate either, but I'm pretty much....my grandmother's daughter. Heck...I can't even wear patten leather shoes after labor day without feeling the shame ! Heaven forbid, I'd wear Navy past summer, or a felt hat after Easter !
My grandmother would come out of the grave and snatch me bald headed if I ever got even an itty bitty ladybug tat on my little toe ! | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:07:16 AM |
I'm sure there are alot of things I do and wear that aren't age appropriate either, but I'm pretty much....my grandmother's daughter. Heck...I can't even wear patten leather shoes after labor day without feeling the shame ! Heaven forbid, I'd wear Navy past summer, or a felt hat after Easter !
Ah, see, I wasn't raised with sophistication or propriety! We were poor, and when we had shoes, we wore them. It didn't matter what color or type the clothes were; we dressed in what was clean and available in the morning when we arose.
I was never one to care much about the opinions of what other people thought I should be or how I should act. I did try it for about a decade; it made me depressed and obese.
Vive le difference, stupidity and all! | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:36:42 AM | Gwendolyn, I can't help how I was raised, no more than you could help how you were raised. It doesn' t make either of us stupid.
I was not raised with priveledge, just silly rules of proper. It doesn't make me a bad person, that was my grandmother's influence on me and she wasn't a bad person nor was she stupid.
I'm just sayin'....some women are so strict and uptight about some really trivial stuff they could never entertain the idea of something like a tattoo. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:58:19 AM | Sunny, I want to add that I do appreciate and respect your comments on a variety subjects including this one. I feel you and I were doing just fine, and any vitrol on my part was in response to Hunter's insulting behavior and not felt or directed in any way toward you.
I did get tickled at the comparison between two of your latter posts -- one about rednecks and then one about hangovers from your grandmother's fashion etiquette. My city neck is just a little pink from the past 13 years of country living so I don't know about all rednecks being on welfare but growing up relatively poor and remaining close to that end of the spectrum in my adult life I can say I've only heard of things like white shoes and Labor Day 'rules'... and my mother worked in some dang fine clothing boutiques.
I do agree that tats (or any type of alteration to the body) should be given serious consideration and not rushed into. I certainly don't regret having waited 30 years to get my first one. | |
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| Grandma, show us your new tattoo!
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:58:35 AM | | i work at a biker bar that does tattoos and i have seen a lot of women in their 40's and 50's get one and if they are done right and not gaudy why not? the tat artists at my work are dying for me to get one and if it wasn't for my fear of needles i would have a few of them by now. you go girls in our prime of life. | |
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