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Posted: 7/6/2008 10:36:09 AM | If it were or is possible for two people to COMPLETELY remove any emotional attatchment , and BOTH MUTUALLY continue to do so , consenting adults can do what they choose . But if that concept were logical , and in fact had any sort of success rate , you mine as well become a "swinger" Really that might be the answer , what's the difference? And even then ,I;m sure in that community it isn't without issues that create eventual drama .
That is what was posted??? LMAO...are you kidding me??? Might as well become a swinger??? Evidentally you have NO idea what that is either...lol....come one....
Singer vs FwB......HUGE DIFFERENCE | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/6/2008 10:51:25 AM | Yes indeed Tink. Perhaps you can educate me on the real difference. Maybe I;m sheltered :)
Hmmm Do swingers usually have or desire an emotional attatchment when making the rounds?
Seems to me that both are testing the waters PHSYICALLY , using each other phsyically primarily . Searching for the one who broke the mold on sexual performance ? I don't know i see a similarity there.    | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:15:11 PM |
Searching for the one who broke the mold on sexual performance
Hey that might be a good topic for a new thread!!!
...and it's something to keep in mind when people want to use each other....lol...
I realize that ok, guys are put together....how can I put this.......differently....than each other.....ok.....different sizes, techniques.....
.....but ladies..... let's spice this up a bit......what makes you think what YOU have is so damn special.....now let's think about this..... if great sex begins in the mind..... what makes YOU think you could be so much hotter than a 30 year old with a really hot body...... do you really think guys care if she's a BIMBO??? ...we're all ears......or should I say eyes...... | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:17:31 AM | Sparkler Where are you dragging this thread ?? You're just trying to gather your own info lol
Yes there was plenty of sarcasm in my reply above . Based on the parameters said on the 'rules" to follow with a FB, they're pretty darn close to what the "swinging" lifestyle expects ...promises...with a partner, no emotional attatchment yada yada . Because as soon as a FB finds somebody they want more from , they move on , therefore creating many partners or FB's for the person afraid to want more. Hence multiple partners , swinging if you will , mine as well just join up . : )
But I;m not sure it "starts" in the mind . But it ends up being the more important factor for the fun to continue :)
The 'finding someone who broke the mold " was complete sarcasm . And after browing these topics , EVERYTHING has been covered here . Some pretty funny topics . | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:38:45 AM | Sarcasm or not, there's some truth there....some women think there a$$ is made of GOLD ....... and once a guy experiences what THEY have to offer........ Just wondering what they have that is so spectacular........lol.......
Let's look at the competition out there - pretty steep wouldn't you agree?? So aside from the obvious turn-ons......confidence, power, money, experience....... what do these mature ladies have..... Just trying to keep things interesting......
....or maybe that's it...... there really are no GOLD A$$E$?????? OMG!!! I'm returning that polishing cream......
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 6:39:16 AM | well sparks.... you do know how to spice things up!
men come in all shapes and sizes thank goodness they are not all the same! some say bigger is better, well if the small ones know how to use it then they can do just as good!
women well from what i hear there are some that are loose the men need a 2x4 tied to their azz not to fall in and then there are some that are still tight its like having a virgin all over again!
i think these younger luvers enjoy the older women because we've had the experience and no those special little tricks to rock their world!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:48:38 AM | Oh ya...... that's true..... so beware the size of the toy????
But you know, these young-uns can do it standing on their heads.......
...at the risk of sounding rather.....raunchy....let's say we probably do have more experience: getting it up; keeping it up; and getting if off, again, and again, and again!!!!! .....wow, better not forget we have an audience, huh?? | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:26:36 AM | You are going to ruin my reputation if i keep replying to this stuff 
Toys ..."size"......Gold lined or embossed ummm "equipment" ? Good things i have many female pals to educate me on this stuff :)
I think your experience can seperate fact from fiction , as well as help decide what works best . Mine has been good , and helped decide what i want now. No drama or regrets . Some people aren't as lucky. The quality of your partners in every aspect is a selection process that should be discerning ,In my opinion of course . Good luck. | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 7:34:20 AM | [ quote] Yes indeed Tink. Perhaps you can educate me on the real difference. Maybe I;m sheltered :)
Hmmm Do swingers usually have or desire an emotional attatchment when making the rounds?
Well frns1st8.... I will do my best to educate, I guess that is what I am here for....I will type slowly so that you might be able to follow and LEARN the difference....lol....
Just kidding, all in fun, but....I do believe that there is a huge difference. And NO! It is not from experience... I have not experienced both of these endeavors.
But I will say.... (if you read the rules) you should see the difference. Usually a friend is just that a friend. No one knows, no one shares, just one on one for pure sexual fulfillment. And if you follow the rules... they remain friends after as well. Does one move on when something better comes along that is willing to offer more, yes. Because it is understood, it is JUST a FwB. If you think it is the same just because one moves on and jumps to another because something better came along then we would have to say it is just like marriage...how man men...and women....divorce because, lets face it, someone better came along.
Now hang on to your seat...there are some ppl that have FwB while being in a relationship. Just fulfilling a sexual need that has not been met....again, usually no one knows. Not an affair.....ppl find out about those
Swingers however......share and share alike. For the same results.....sexual fulfillment but it is a group thing. They have their swingers parties....they all know about each other, pretty open, lots o ppl........personally I would be scared to death my partner would be having MORE fun than I and I might get stuck with a dud. What fun is that? | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:38:59 AM |
personally I would be scared to death my partner would be having MORE fun than I and I might get stuck with a dud. What fun is that?
Good point, Tink!!! And what if the guys were all U-G-L-Y!!! If you go, do you HAVE to participate??? I'm WAY too picky for that nonsense!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:49:11 AM | HAVE to participate.....I have no idea on that one....I had some friends that were...and still are...into this. I believe that they meet everyone before hand and discuss before...
Yeah, my luck I woulod get Ernie the office runt or Spike the town biker from hellville........
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Posted: 7/7/2008 8:17:20 AM | Tinkerbell We disagree , there are definately some similarities . And that's ok :)
They both are seeking a sexual "fix" variety if you will , one that isn't expected to last . And the excitement of a new partner will fade eventually , when only initiated by the phyical. It's often about their own self esteem . There are some very good books on this by the way.
What i find amusing is most men involved in this type relationship will tell a woman anything she wants or needs to hear in this arrangement , most don't get that. Often that is what fuels her acceptance of the scenario , and the accolades. | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 9:38:06 AM | Well, I would suppose that anyone doing this would be very careful. I know a few swingers. Have been into this for years. They are extremely happy in their marriages. They have children, active in family and in community. Swingers come from all walks of life. Swinging is only a small part of their lives.
It isn't like most think. It isn't a free for all and sexfestsl. Clubs are very careful who they allow in and they limit singles. That way you don't have people there, especially the men, just hoping to get laid. Each couple has their own rules and stick to them. Most don't just hop into bed with anyone and everyone. They meet as couples and decide. If one person says no, it is NO. Many of the couples become friends and do many things together as families. They become friends. Trouble can start, as usual, in anything. If you aren't honest with your partner, and you break the rules you both decide on, it can really cause some problems .
But, hmm sounds like the same thing in marriage, or in any other committed relationship! Do you not have "rules" and expectations in all relationships? In swinging there are issues. Duh! All depends on why people do it. But again.. there are issues, some the same, as to why people enter marriage or other arrangements.
I find it amusing how people think about things they are not informed about, and only speak from what they hear alone or are governed by morals of their own, giving no thought to the fact that we do not all think the same about morals.
No, you do not have to have sex with anyone if you don't desire to. You don't even have to have sex at all, but watch. Or you can have sex with your own partner!! Imagine that! This is certainly NOT for most! Stop condemning the ones who chose and are happy with their lives doing what they chose. If it doesn't work out for them, lessons are learned and they go on, as in other areas of life, such as marriages not working for many. How many marriages break up over cheating? How many couples living together get bored and move on. How many single people are just hoping in bed from one person to another just to get sex? Just be responsible in the paths you chose in life.
Here is some homework for anyone really interested and wanting to know what the "Lifestyle REALLY is all about":
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Rules+for+Swingers
I would hope that in this day and age people would break the limited thinking and stop judging others. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. To each their own. We all live and learn, but we all follow many different paths to do so be it swinging, FWB, celibacy, bi, gay, marriage, living together. Know who you are, what you want, what you do not want, and be responsible in ALL you do, sexually or not! | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 1:04:19 PM | The original topic migrated to an interesting correlation in my opinion. One that has similarities.
Often when someone is in a extreme minority lifestyle , they conclude when someone points out the obvious reasons for that choice , they are being judemental , or they attempt to rationalize their choice any way they can .
I may not be an expert on the subject , but too have met some in the lifestyle in my sheltered life . You wouldn't like my opinion on the selectivity options amongst those who choose it .
There are two primary reasons i can think of for choosing the aforementioned . One they need to have sex with multiple partners and don't feel monogamy is important as in a respectful manner . There are reasons for that i can guess. And Two , they don't choose to combine intimacy with emotion , they make a seperation , again i have a clue as to why .
To me it's a commune , plain and simple, one that is an extremely small portion of society . Usually when i form an opinion , I consider what the result would be if EVERYONE participated in the lifestyle. Personally i would like to see society continue , so i believe in people procreating Call me crazy , but I'm entitled to that crazy opinion. . Another rule i follow is anything i do I can't share with my children , i would consider in poor taste . I consider it a responsibility as a parent. Again maybe I;m wrong. Maybe by example convincing them of a lesser set of values would be better.
If you want to call my opinions judgemental , as opposed to a debate on the subject including the facts , that's your choice. But when you imply that a couple in the swinging lifetsyle , who do things as families , or have better marriages in your opinion , and basically are like the Brady Bunch , I'm going to have to disagree.
The good news is there is a place here for all to participate . Intimate encounters would be a suggestion for the swingers or a FB . :) | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 1:27:51 PM |
How many marriages break up over cheating
Too many, Lindy!!! I have a guy friend who's wife was having an affair with someone she worked with..... he said to keep his marriage together (this was his high school sweetheart), he was willing to look the other way for a time..... he even said he would have had a threesome or swing with his wife IF ~ it would have kept her happy and in his bed at night...... SAD!!! They divorced.
I wonder if there is a club for older women who want younger men (and no, frndsfirst, I'm not fishing for my own info...lol).... there are dating sites for older guys who want younger women.... they advertise on here!! | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 5:40:16 PM | frndsfirst8
The original topic migrated to an interesting correlation in my opinion. One that has similarities.
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Often when someone is in a extreme minority lifestyle , they conclude when someone points out the obvious reasons for that choice , they are being judemental , or they attempt to rationalize their choice any way they can .
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The obvious? LMAO To you maybe since your mind is made up. One, I was calling no particular person judgmental. Just saying it is obvious though, I guess proves MY point about judging. NOTHING in life is obvious to all. YOU are choosing what is in YOUR site.
Some here haven't a clue about swinging or anything about FWB or FB to their own admitting. Again, nothing is obvious to some. Thus ones need to gain knowledge of things before they talk about what they do not know. Some were asking questions. I was doing a general post, and nothing to one person. Education gives knowledge. Knowledge gives power. You cant make the correct decisions in life without first knowing what you are getting involved with.
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I may not be an expert on the subject , but too have met some in the lifestyle in my sheltered life . You wouldn't like my opinion on the selectivity options amongst those who choose it .
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In deed, from your comments, you are no expert. I think I stated both sides of the issue. It works for some... and not for others for a large variety of reasons. Same as marriage or any other relationship. It wouldn't matter whether one liked your opinion or not. You have a right to it. But you seem to want to see it is negatively only, and that isn't a good thing. From all your comments you have judged it all and made that clear.
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There are two primary reasons i can think of for choosing the aforementioned . One they need to have sex with multiple partners and don't feel monogamy is important as in a respectful manner .
There are reasons for that i can guess. And Two , they don't choose to combine intimacy with emotion , they make a seperation , again i have a clue as to why .
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SOME may have that viewpoint, but over all its not always as you say. Again you don't know enough about it to comment on this. There are obviously emotions. Everything you do in life has such. They just aren't the way you think is correct.
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To me it's a commune , plain and simple, one that is an extremely small portion of society . Usually when i form an opinion , I consider what the result would be if EVERYONE participated in the lifestyle. Personally i would like to see society continue , so i believe in people procreating Call me crazy , but I'm entitled to that crazy opinion. . Another rule i follow is anything i do I can't share with my children , i would consider in poor taste . I consider it a responsibility as a parent. Again maybe I;m wrong. Maybe by example convincing them of a lesser set of values would be better.
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A commune? And plain and simple. Eh? Wow you have this all wrapped up in a neat little package don't you?Wrap them all up and put them somewhere where you won't have to ever look at them.
Procreation has NOTHING to do with this! As for families in this... geeshhhh they don't do things in private in front of the kids, no more than married couples would involve their kids in such!!
As for society, there are many in the world different than ours, and they do not live the way we do here in the States. Matter of fact, even here in the states we do not all live the same with the same lifestyles and thinking!! Diversity!
I have a gay niece. I have some bi relatives. I have friends in the lifestyle. I have family that are pagans. Some friends are nudists. The list goes on. NOTHING is plain and simple. You need to remove the blinders. Not all think alike... and shouldn't. How boring this world would be if we all were alike in all ways. I want a one on one long term. But, I sure am not going to condemn anyone else for different choices.
Some would like to see everyone to do as they think too. Be it marriage, dating, and the ways they engage in sexual activity. Thank goodness no such thing happens!! I hope that if one of your children grows up and engages in something YOU don't think is correct, you can handle it! You seem to allow for nothing but your own opinion being the correct one and all should follow suit. Sad, since so many people live so many different ways.
In some cultures these things are common and totally accepted and very different than what we see here in the States. There is NO NORM, but what the current society suggests is correct. That has changed to many degrees over the centuries. And is always in constant change. When I was growing up the standards of relationships were totally different. They are in process of changing again.
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If you want to call my opinions judgemental , as opposed to a debate on the subject including the facts , that's your choice.
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Again only seeing what you want. Oh, I have placed facts in front of you and so have others. You are too closed minded to see them correctly as presented. Funny how you chose to think I was referring you you as judgmental, because I truly was not pin-pointing anyone and was just generalizing how in our world some just cant see others ways as right for them due to their own limitations of thinking it's their way or the highway. But, if the shoe fits, wear it.
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But when you imply that a couple in the swinging lifetsyle , who do things as families , or have better marriages in your opinion , and basically are like the Brady Bunch , I'm going to have to disagree.
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I never said, nor did I imply they had BETTER marriages. It was a comment on how so do despite the fact, you and others think it impossible. I don't think there are any groups of people who can say their choices of relationships are better. Again, you jump to conclusions and see what you want to see. I said they are what they are, and are not some odd people who should be hiding just because others can't seem to accept what they do as okay. I do think I pointed out that there are issues as in any relationship with anyone including the lifestyle, and that how it turns out is due to what the people involved wanted and other factors I listed as examples. So you have no reason to disagree, since it was never said.
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The good news is there is a place here for all to participate . Intimate encounters would be a suggestion for the swingers or a FB . :)
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Swingers don't do FB or FWB. That could be considered on another basic privately. But it is not part of the swinger lifestyle. The FWB or FB is something entirely separate.
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I said my piece and need not "defend" anything personally, since I am not involved with these things. But I will argue and defend that to the end all should be able to chose what they do, and no one choice is for all!! And I would never put anyone down for what choices they decide to make in life. I also said to do all things responsibly. That stands! Thus one would make sure that anything they get involved in would be something they can deal with the consequences of, good or bad. Because there are ALWAYS consequences to every single thing we do! Including what we write here!
You have a happy life with your own choices. That will be enough. But I would like to see you hopefully, at least open your mind to accepting other possibilities in life being right for the ones who chose them. Besides, in time they may decide it won't be right and move on to something else. Most people do change things over time. No reason one can't change these things too! Who knows too, what decisions YOU might change later too.
Wishing you the best! Truly!
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 5:46:25 PM | Sparks .. lol.. not sure about the clubs for that... but there sure are enough sites on line catering to older women wanting younger men and others for younger men wanting older women... There are sooooo many choices to make in life. And at each step we make , it makes the opportunity for other choices to make down the road. Wow... guess that is called LIFE huh?
BTW, if you go to Sidelines this month, maybe we can discuss this more?
Linda
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=women+who+want+younger+men | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/7/2008 9:11:44 PM | Well Lindy unfortunately based on your opinion we don;t live in Tibet . And cultural differences do apply and often they can be viewed as uncivilized to other cultures , and in majority opinion , they would be .
Let me start with a little food for thought for you , in some countries the population is considered legal to marry at 10 years old , here we call that a pedophile . And even though you are of the liberal mindset , perhaps even you could find some disgust in that choice.
As for even what we type here as a consequence , I'm hardly intimidated or deterred to disagree with you based on a majority opinion.
For the record there are also MANY sites offering plenty of options for the younger woman to the older man , perhaps that is your initial reason for your choice , I don;t know .
For the record since you don;t know me , I applaud any woman NOT in denial for her options with a particuliar younger man . Having said that though , often older men seeking younger women are in the denial category as well. But the neutralizing factor is the validity of the arrangement is still based on factors that are the same of finding a partner closer to your own age . You have to look at the tangibles , while being attractive is subjective , Demi Moore has a bit of an advantage over most women her age outside of a fantasy society in Hollywood. Even if you removed her wealth. Same could be said for most men seeking a younger partner , you have to ask yourself why would an attractive , independent potential partner 15 years your youth decide to entertain a relationship with someone not being able to offer children or anything physically more appealing . If you're realistic as to the options that may come your way in this arrangement and why , to each their own , but just as the older man often has to come to grips with the reality of the choice , so have several women i know shared the same demise .
Much of your retort involved a generalization of, everyone should be able to do what they want mentality , regardless of morality concerns and family values . Quite frankly I;m sorry to say yes there is a big differnce in being ashamed of telling your children what you do in private as opposed to giving them good values when educating them on intimacy , monogamy etc . . And there is a BIG difference in how your children will be influenced based on your own lifetsyle. And if someone is not ashamed of that lifestyle , i suggest they seek counseling on what their real issues are , because It's pretty easy to figure out. Unless of course you plan on raising them in Tibet? We don't agree I;m proud to say .
I also have no problem with the "gay" lifestyle . As long as they understand if their parents thought that way , they wouldn't be able to participate in that lifestyle . Then decide whats wrong with that picture ....Pretty much a premise not up for debate . | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:44:41 PM | | For the record. Those who have FB'S or FWB'S .....Swingers .....etc . As i said earlier , whatever floats your boat . Youger man older woman? Again whatever seems to work for you . I have an opinion based on experience amongst female friends , that's not going to change , nor do i need it to. Enjoy! | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 2:48:37 PM | frndsfirst8
You base a life opinion on a few female friends with negative reactions, but you won't hear the other side of the coin from many others. And no matter what facts are presented before you, you won't change your mine. You are right, we are all wrong. Fine... Life goes on and I am sure happy that there are more and more people opening their minds to other life possibilities being okay, even it they aren't okay for them personally.
With your thinking we would still be in the Middle ages with the cast system. Along the way we could kill a few "witches" and stone people to death for having opinions different than the ones who ruled the areas! Your thinking in life is only based on what you have been taught to believe is right, not actually what IS right necessarily.
I can't imagine being so concrete in my beliefs as you are. NOTHING stays the same and opinions change all the time given new knowledge. Michael Angelo was laughed at for his helicopter designs. Imagine if they had gone through with it sooner how much further we would be? Others were laughed at and called heretics too for their believes and burned. Closer to our time frame, with your thinking the Negroes would still be slaves! Closed-minedness is a sad thing and really limits happiness in life. The norm is only what is basically accepted by the masses where you live at the moment in time. NOT reality. Just based on what is deemed real at the moment. At one time reality was the earth was flat and the sun rotated around the Earth.
NO ONE is asking you to do the things discussed. Just have a more broadminded approach. You SAY "whatever floats your boat ", but you really do not mean it. That would be acceptance or at least tolerance, and you are far from that.
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Well Lindy unfortunately based on your opinion we don;t live in Tibet . And cultural differences do apply and often they can be viewed as uncivilized to other cultures , and in majority opinion , they would be .
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Not sure what Tibet has to do with this discussion. And I don't believe I said we should be as Tibetans or anyone else or any other country. But we are all affected in this country by all the cultures that have been mixed into the population. Viewed by whom as uncivilized. Us? lol... We all but destroyed the Native Americans taking over their territories. I believe we judged them "heatherns"? Opps.. down the road we changed our minds... too bad all the ones who died because of OUR believes couldnt benefit for our change of heart!! Now we appologize to them... way too late... and say we were wrong. Don't be in too big a hurry to judge others who are different.
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Let me start with a little food for thought for you , in some countries the population is considered legal to marry at 10 years old , here we call that a pedophile . And even though you are of the liberal mindset , perhaps even you could find some disgust in that choice.
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Do you have any idea how foolish that sounds? WE judge that as pedophilia for them. Yes, if it happened HERE, we would prosecute for that and rightly so since the reasons for that here would be sexually orientated, not culturally. THEIR the culture has its reasons for doing so, not motivated by sex. I do not have to agree with it and I do not. But that isn't the point is it? Check out WHY they do that there. Many cultures marry very young. It started in those places for reasons. Some of those things is changing also, due to the fact the reasons in most places do not exist anymore. So your argument doesn't hold water.
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As for even what we type here as a consequence , I'm hardly intimidated or deterred to disagree with you based on a majority opinion.
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Again, you leap to conclusions. I wasn't even thinking of intimidating you, or trying to deter you from expressing your opinion. I only meant we all, no matter what, have consequences for everything we do, even things as trival as typing here. People reading this form opinion on what they read. Only thing I meant, and it wasn't pointed at anyone, but us all. You really need to stop thinking it's all about you.
BTW, One minority's opinion can change opinions of the masses. Not that this will, but don't underestimate the majorities in any area of life. They can do great harm or change things for the world for the better. Don't be naive. Hitler was a minority to begin with. Look how he convinced a whole country and caused issues for the whole world. Mother Theresa was a minority. But look at the marvelous works that she did for the world. There are many examples in history of both good and bad.
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For the record there are also MANY sites offering plenty of options for the younger woman to the older man , perhaps that is your initial reason for your choice , I don;t know .
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MY reason of what choice? I thought I made it clear these things are not my lifestyle choices. And I am not younger looking for older men. So not sure what your point is here.
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For the record since you don;t know me , I applaud any woman NOT in denial for her options with a particuliar younger man . Having said that though , often older men seeking younger women are in the denial category as well. But the neutralizing factor is the validity of the arrangement is still based on factors that are the same of finding a partner closer to your own age . You have to look at the tangibles , while being attractive is subjective , Demi Moore has a bit of an advantage over most women her age outside of a fantasy society in Hollywood. Even if you removed her wealth. Same could be said for most men seeking a younger partner , you have to ask yourself why would an attractive , independent potential partner 15 years your youth decide to entertain a relationship with someone not being able to offer children or anything physically more appealing . If you're realistic as to the options that may come your way in this arrangement and why , to each their own , but just as the older man often has to come to grips with the reality of the choice , so have several women i know shared the same demise .
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For the record, you do not know me either. But you condemn any other woman for other reasons for what she is doing. Maybe these women need to learn about life. Maybe in doing so, in this way, they can make a better life for themselves by finding out what there weaknesses are and correcting them. And if you re-read all I have said. I agree with those some of your points. But, you for the most part make it extremely clear these things are all wrong. And women looking for men who are significantly younger are heading for trouble for the most of them. Odd, though, since they had a show on not long ago that showed many of these relationships working out with women significantly older, some by 20 years.. I totally agree though, that most wouldn't long haul. But, then from the start, that was pretty much a given in this discussion. Guess you missed that part preaching that women who did this were mostly all wrong, and for the most part they were going into these relationships all for the wrong reasons, and it was all going to be disastrous. Again, maybe they need to learn something about themselves and this happens to be a chosen path and not all that bad in the long run. Haven't you learned many things from mistakes that otherwise you would never had learned? If you make no mistakes, and you do not learn from ones you do make, then there is something to be discussed.
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Much of your retort involved a generalization of, everyone should be able to do what they want mentality , regardless of morality concerns and family values .
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Whoa bucko! I never ever said that. Again, you see what you want to see. I would never ever say such things!! You judge what you see to validate what you want to believe.
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Quite frankly I;m sorry to say yes there is a big differnce in being ashamed of telling your children what you do in private as opposed to giving them good values when educating them on intimacy , monogamy etc . =============================================
Who said these people should be ashamed? You! And "good values" don't come from any lifestyle. Nor does any lifestyle, yours or anyone else's , guarantee your values are correct and good for all, nor will guarantee your child a happy existence if they follow them. MOST in this country follow the value that marriage is sacred yet look at the divorce rate!!! Yeah, the morals of the vast majority are working great! Let alone what happens to the kids!!
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And there is a BIG difference in how your children will be influenced based on your own lifetsyle. And if someone is not ashamed of that lifestyle , i suggest they seek counseling on what their real issues are , because It's pretty easy to figure out. Unless of course you plan on raising them in Tibet? We don't agree I;m proud =========================================================
Nothing is easy to figure out. Life and all things about it are extremely complicated. If it were this world would be a very happy place for all to enjoy life and there wouldnt be people in our own country living on the streets, starving etc. Unless of course you live in a box and never peak outside it life is complicated to an extreme.
Seems you didn't take the red pill. You, again say your way or the highway, and if everyone cant agree they need counseling???? Wow.. You sure do put things in boxes and wrap them up tight. And again. Tibet? Sad. With your thinking all gays raising kids will have gay children. Obama must be a really confused child growing up with parents from two different lifestyles. Yet the reality of those things is proved completely wrong. I cant even begin to think that all children of swingers are going to grow up and be swingers or live a debauched lifestyle! Nor will a bi parent/parents turn a child bi.
So anyone thinking ways other than you in this matter needs counseling. Another huge leap. You are definitely on a slippery slope here.
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I also have no problem with the "gay" lifestyle . As long as they understand if their parents thought that way , they wouldn't be able to participate in that lifestyle . Then decide whats wrong with that picture ....Pretty much a premise not up for debate .
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I love it. You have no issues with gay lifestyle, "AS LONG AS" Either you have no issues, or you do.
You say as long as they decide what is wrong with that picture? Seems you do have issues with gays if the kids need to decide what is wrong with that? Not up for debate? Do your research. Do you know gays are more stable and more long term in their commitments over-all then people in heterosexual relationships? Do you know they are more active in their kids lives than more heterosexual parents? Do you know that they are more active in the community than heterosexuals? I see no reason for any child to not be proud of parents like that. There is more pluses comparatively. Look it all up.
Well, have a wonderful night. I wont be commenting anymore to you. It would be a waste of time for both of us. Your mind is made up and that is that. Ears that won't hear. Eyes that won't see. I am beating a dead horse, so to speak. And for what? It won't resurrect him. | |
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| Friends With Benefits...Younger guys and more mature ladies ~a turn-on??
Posted: 7/8/2008 6:45:07 PM | Wow, you guys sure know how to get a discussion going..... now let's see, where were we.....oh yes, about these guys that won't post.....
Are there any young guys out there who have actually fallen for an older woman or who didn't just want to use her for self-gratification.......lots of ladies reading this, now's your chance to clear the air......public opinion says, okay, you guys are fun to play with, but why should someone who's looking for long-term respond to your propositions and your lines??? I don't know, girls, think they'll answer?? | |
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