| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 12:59:02 PM | | Well this thread worked, just had another date....and after reading this....of course he paid. And he didn't double dip either. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 2:02:22 PM |
Well this thread worked, just had another date....and after reading this....of course he paid. And he didn't double dip either. You seem to take great pride in hustling men for money. There is another profession which capitalizes in the same way and it has been around since the beginning of humanity. Just some food for thought!
I’m curious, does statements, behavior and attitudes like the one reflected above not anger sincere, respectable and independent women? After all, you will be painted by the same brush that OP is filling with paint. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 2:05:24 PM | Actually....I think hustling men with dates is FAR WORSE. At least with "the oldest profession in the world" you have TWO consenting adults who know exactly what they rules are...I please, you pay. Personally, I think it should be legal in more U.S. states than just Nevada! LOL
But when a chica is hustling dates for meals...HE thinks she genuinely wants to be there, and not just feed her face!  | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 2:14:02 PM |
I'm curious, does statements, behavior and attitudes like the one reflected above not anger sincere, respectable and independent women? After all, you will be painted by the same brush that OP is filling with paint. Personally, no. I find it sad and unfortunate, but men have a right to date whomever they wish just as women do. I have to put up boundaries and road blocks to avoid men that will offer a relationship when in fact they're looking for sex with no strings attached. Men have to put boundaries and road blocks to avoid women that will offer a relationship when in fact they're looking for free food. We all want others to treat us with respect and dignity, but that's not always the way of the world. We still have to live in it so we do what we can to avoid the users.
Honestly, I don't respect men that blanket determine any peoples based on the opinion and actions of some of its members. In my eyes, that's bigotry. I don't mind when a man is cautious based on what he's seen, but pre-judging me because I'm female is a disservice to him and to me. I'm not interested in dealing with any man who does not judge me based on my own merit. I've dated and have my share of horror stories as well as seen how many of my friends obtained their own dating battle wounds. Yet I still look a man in the eye and judge him based on what I see, not what I've seen of other men. I expect the same respect. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 5:31:01 PM | | First meeting isnt really a date, both should split the tab. Being treated like a wallet out of some outdated courtly custom sours it for me. If a woman is a professional and works, just like me, let her pay her share, just split it in half no matter who orders what. If shes strapped for money, well, thats another matter. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/3/2008 5:52:43 PM |
Well this thread worked, just had another date....and after reading this....of course he paid. And he didn't double dip either.
And ... ? Is there no more, was the only purpose of starting this thing to get a date where the food was free? Have you no more to ad about the man himself. No comment at all, beyond "of course he paid. And he didn't double dip either"
I myself find that your returning to make only the comment you have made, makes you seem rather shallow.
Are you really this shallow?
Drew | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 2:46:37 AM |
Well this thread worked, just had another date....and after reading this....of course he paid. And he didn't double dip either.
Glad to hear it. A man treating you with respect and taking responsibility for a date is a good start to a loving relationship.
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 3:42:26 AM | Prevention method - coffee first, or drinks. if dude shows cheapass tendencies on this more minor and brief date, then you'll know not to go for dinner with him and stuck with the tab. that's why i don't answer questions on my profile about what i do for a living, how much money i make, or whether i have a car. why - does he need a ride from the busstop? please. ladies, exercise caution to preserve the contents of your wallets.
cheers - sue | |
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| oh boy sorry but this is too damned much.... Posted: 7/4/2008 3:44:07 AM | you just READ unless don't read (and some folks can't, nothing to be ashamed of, illiteracy is widespread in our country, shamefully) that this lady got ripped off for way more than half the bill at dinner.
so how is expecting HALF the bill to be paid "hustling men for money". please explain - i'm blonde and STUPID.
cheers - sue | |
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| oh boy sorry but this is too damned much.... Posted: 7/4/2008 8:36:14 AM |
Glad to hear it. A man treating you with respect and taking responsibility for a date is a good start to a loving relationship.
Yup hustling men for money and then bragging about it? Your men must be very lucky. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 8:42:07 AM |
If a woman is a professional and works, just like me, let her pay her share, just split it in half no matter who orders what. If shes strapped for money, well, thats another matter.
So, if the woman only has an $8 salad and a $5 glass of wine and the man has a $30 steak and a$10 glass of wine the bill should be split down the middle??? How is that fair? | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 9:17:34 AM | To me, "dutch" always means separate checks--thus avoiding the possibility of one party feeling that they were ripped off if the other party orders a lot more than they.
I do the same when out with friends, too. If they get upset that I need to stay within my budget and can't subsidize their drinking/dining habits, they don't see me as friend, they see me as a "mark." When I have the money, I have no problem buying a round or treating to a meal--at my instigation. However, if money is tight that week, I don't want to end up "splitting" a bill for $100 or more when all I've consumed is $20 worth.
If anyone thinks I'm cheap, that's their problem, not mine. I know I'm not. I just try hard to be fiscally responsible.
I've been waitstaff, and I've owned a restaurant. As long as you let your server know when ordering, there should be no angst over asking for separate checks. Simplifies matters for all involved, IMO. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 9:29:04 AM | DITTO................THIS" LADY" CRAP HAS GOT TO STOP, it's tired.........time the ladies grew up and became independent, confident WomYn CHEERS PEACE Bette Boop *Up-settin-the-set-Up | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 9:41:03 AM |
To me, "dutch" always means separate checks--thus avoiding the possibility of one party feeling that they were ripped off if the other party orders a lot more than they.
I do the same when out with friends, too. If they get upset that I need to stay within my budget and can't subsidize their drinking/dining habits, they don't see me as friend, they see me as a "mark." When I have the money, I have no problem buying a round or treating to a meal--at my instigation. However, if money is tight that week, I don't want to end up "splitting" a bill for $100 or more when all I've consumed is $20 worth.
If anyone thinks I'm cheap, that's their problem, not mine. I know I'm not. I just try hard to be fiscally responsible.
I've been waitstaff, and I've owned a restaurant. As long as you let your server know when ordering, there should be no angst over asking for separate checks. Simplifies matters for all involved, IMO
No not cheap at all smart. You do think like a man but that's a compliment. And most men don't want to pay for a $100 meal when they only had half of that.
So you go dutch on your dates? Its kind of unromantic but still fair. If both parties have similar tastes it would be best to alternate paying. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 9:41:25 AM | | Going Dutch means separate Czechs...? And the OP had dinner at an Italian restaurant. And the guy Welshed on the Czech. It's all Greek to me. Seems like a big damn mess - pardon my French. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 9:51:41 AM | For me it is different because when a guy asks me out he knows that at the end of the night I have to shell out a lot of money for the babysitter...so I do expect them to pay if they ask me out..Ive even had wonderful men ask to pay for the babysitter at the end of the night, but I definitely wouldnt let him do that, unless I was really tight on money.
****Let me also just say that Im into the whole old fashioned type dating and I do expect him to pay***** | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:02:48 AM |
Just went to an Italian restaurant, and at the end of the night the bill was $60.
I think I have finally figured out why I don’t run into this problem with men having issues on the check. I don’t even know of any restaurants around me that would cost $60 for two people. No wonder they look at me funny when I offer to pay my half and say "I can more than cover this one". Woohoo, I'm a cheap date!
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:21:12 AM | ****Let me also just say that Im into the whole old fashioned type dating and I do expect him to pay*****
Where do you draw the line? Do you also take gifts from them? let them pay for vacations?
what happened to 50/50? what is your contribution to the relationship? | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:27:34 AM |
Going Dutch means separate Czechs...? And the OP had dinner at an Italian restaurant. And the guy Welshed on the Czech. It's all Greek to me. Seems like a big damn mess - pardon my French.
Booo! | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:30:27 AM | | And to the above post, if you desire to start a relationship with a woman, you pay for dinner. If it's nothing mroe than friends, it's fair to pay for half but a gentlemen still pays for dinner. Yes I'm old fashion, but I'm also new-fashion too, it's what I get for growing up with three women. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:40:00 AM |
Yes I'm old fashion, but I'm also new-fashion too, it's what I get for growing up with three women.
You think? Men who grow up with women are typically taught to do everything for her and be submissive from day one.
Who would pay for a friend because she is female? That's just whipped to another extent. Grow a backbone.
No one has to follow your advice and no smart man will. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:41:15 AM | Hey,
Ive never had a bad date like that..I mean Ive dated shitty men in the past but at least they paid for dates...
Men arent raised like they use to be. There not polite and they treat u like a slave and a bank account rather than a queen that u deserve to be treated like. | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:43:01 AM |
It doesn't matter what you purchased. The old school way is to pay for the lady.
Perfectly said.
I never offer to pay and I can't believe men will even allow a woman to pay. Have they no couth? | |
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| Hi just had a date from hell....again Posted: 7/4/2008 10:44:34 AM | | While it is nice to have a guy pay for the first date, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. I would suggest that next time before going out, simply ask your would-be date if this is going to be a dutch date; that way you know before you even go out. Or just be prepared when you go out with your own money and don't spend more than you have. That way if he flakes, pretends he left his wallet, or expects dutch, you've at least got you covered. | |
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