| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/6/2008 6:27:53 AM | | To wowsad: Yes it is illegal to offer to sell narcotics as it is called" Intent with the intention to sell or distribute" or something like that and it is a punishable offense in almost every state by jail,fine or prison time if you have a past record. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/6/2008 6:51:38 AM | WOW... I dont even know where to begin.
Here in Ohio our smoking ban has been in effect for a little over a year.
Buisinesses that where one florishing are now barely scraping by.
A good friend of mine USED to own a bar that he invested everything he had into.
Within 3 months him and his family lost their house, their buisiness, and what he claims was a good credit score because of the drop in buisiness. He wasnt one of the lucky buisiness owners who had the property to build an outside smoking lounge.
Now him, his wife and their 3 kids are living in an efficiency apartment on government assistance.This kind of thing has happened to hundreds of small buisinesses like his just about everywhere that these smoking bans have been put in effect.
In Ohio there is a snitch line for people to call if they see someone smoking in a bar or private buisiness. They dont do a damn thing to the person who was actualy smoking but the buisiness gets fined. Now tell me how thats fair!
So what you are saying is that it is perfectly acceptable to sit in a bar and drink till you pickle your liver but god forbid someone else lites a cigarette anywhere near you. Thats just like saying " Im going to shoot myself in the head, but you better not try to stab me with a knife." I love how in America some people have this mind set that they know whats better for you than you do.
One question...Did you vote for Bush?
You know what? I have been actively trying to quit smoking and i havent had a cig in about 2 months but...GOD, I sure as hell need one now!!!!
By the way. Yeah man you have to be careful with what you agree to do now adays . L.E.O. is everywhere. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/15/2008 8:58:01 PM |
had a chick email me a few months ago asking if i could find her coke.]
The Police would never set anything up like that. It would be entrapment and that is against the law. If using an informant, the informant must give info,they have attained
from an experience that the Police have not set up. The difference being if you were not inclined to commit a crime, the Police cannot tempt you legally to commit one you would not have commited if they had not set you up.Nor can one of their agents. It could be the girl was an informant trying to find Drug Dealers to turn over to police. They can make money that way. I would never advise anyone, to accept, even playing a game, to tell someone they would sell them drugs. That could be considered conspiricy to commit a crime and you can be charged with that. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:23:38 AM | | next time, go with it, take a pair of your own handcuffs, ask them for the money, then cuff them, saying your making a citizens arrest..could be interesting. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/16/2008 9:10:36 AM | "next time, go with it, take a pair of your own handcuffs, ask them for the money, then cuff them, saying your making a citizens arrest..could be interesting. "
And then you get lots of time for assaulting an officer. Or get killed for screwing with a drug dealer. That would be a lose-win situation, and those kinda suck :P | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/17/2008 9:12:26 AM | OP - it stands to reason since it's reasonable to expect that criminals also use the internet, that the web would also be "patrolled" by law enforcement. As to whether it is entrapment or not is for the DA and/or jury to decide. In any event, anyone not involved or not pretending to be involved in criminal activity should have nothing to be concerned about. I certainly would avoid giving off the impression, such as you did, to anyone that you are interested in something you're not just out of idle curiosity. In the end, it could come back to bite you. You already inadvertently created a written record via email of the communication.
JMHO | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/18/2008 4:45:03 AM | | Cops are paid to catch people who engage in 'criminal' behavior. Some departments target specific types of crime, example, vice. If your town has laws against something, and you participate in that unlawful activity, you're fair game to get caught and fined or imprisoned. This isn't rocket science; someone somewhere went through the trouble to get a law enacted to prevent certain behavior. The police are only doing their jobs. They are expected to get results, and arrests. If you make it obvious you are breaking the law, don't be surprised if they 'find' you. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:54:04 AM |
since it's reasonable to expect that criminals also use the internet, that the web would also be "patrolled" ]
There are agencies that "patrol" the internet. But they have budgets to do that. Small towns and cities do not have that priviledge. They ususally depend on internet users to report crimes or possible crimes. That is where responsible citizens come in. I like that program "Predator" where a reporter interviews the suspect that comes thinking he is going to have sex with a minor. I cannot believe the stupidity and perversive nature of the morons that get arrested on that show. I am also concerned about the minors who allow some pervert to talk them into meeting them. Parents talk to your children!!! | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:02:45 AM |
I am also concerned about the minors who allow some pervert to talk them into meeting them. Parents talk to your children!!!
More than talk to their children, talk with them and monitor their activities as well as associations on and offline. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/18/2008 9:22:31 AM | Of course I've heard about this stuff happening. It's like the sex preditors.
In some cases it is good but in others it's not, it could get an "innocent" person as yourself into trouble.
I don't really know if you're innocent or not lol i'm just assuming. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/18/2008 11:57:47 AM |
The only people actually disagreeing with this are who? Oh, yeah...the ones who DO use. LOL!
Yes because a reasonable person couldn’t possibly believe that there body is there own and only there own property to do with as they wish and in no way belongs to the state…
The state says I can not
Rent my body
Sell my body
Drug my body
Kill my body
Just who’s body is it anyway, mine or the states?
It’s this kind of thinking that the state should have any say in how you use your own body that leads to evils like the Draft and the Income Tax.
Granted some laws are unjust but the bulk of them are there to protect mankind from himself. And clearly it's needed since so many people are incapable of seeing the hurt and discomfort they inflict on others.
There is a huge difference between hurting others and hurting yourself.
The law should not protect you from yourself, that’s your job to do or not do as you see fit.
The law should protect us from others. Smokers should have every right to kill themselves if they feel so inclined but there right stops at the next person’s lungs.
You know its seems funny to me that the tobacco companies have had decades to work on a nicotine delivery system that doesn’t have to poison the person on the next bar stool and they haven’t done it.
Kind of reminds me of the American auto industry and there “we’ll make what WE want you to buy not what YOU want to buy” attitude.
Really I read about how these bans are unfair how they hurt business and people blame the non smokers and people blame the government. How about laying the blame where it really belongs, with the tobacco companies? They are the ones making a product that poisons the local airspace wherever it is lit.
What in the nearly 50 some odd years they’ve known second hand smoke was bad they couldn’t come up with something better? If they are losing market share now because of it that’s there fault for continuing to make an inferior product when they had all the time in the world to come up with something better. | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/27/2008 10:44:08 AM | lmao that a bar is a private establishment not a public place. That's hilarious.
I have no issue with the police using these sites or any other fair means to crack down on crime. Dating sites are public venues for meeting other people. To me, entrapment is when you are tricked into showing a behaviour or activity that would not necessarily be shown to others. When you are putting information in a profile to be viewed by all and sundry, you can't possibly have any expectation of privacy.
Nutt | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/27/2008 10:46:30 AM | draskin:
If where you live is so awful and is depriving you of your "rights" why are you there? There are MANY countries in the world that do not try to protect you. Try relocating.
Nutt | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 7/27/2008 9:22:59 PM | I'd seriously doubt that the popo are using PoF to trap criminals. They're spending a lot of time on the internet, but they're already occupied with more important stuff, such as tracking large scale internet theft, child pornography, money laundering, intellectual property theft, neo-nazi activity, and inciting hatred, etc. They'd get far more usable information by trolling stormfront.org than anything they could find on PoF.
But Big Brother is here, the FBI has been using the Carnivore program to search email packets for some time. Trying to entrap an individual here and there would be extremely inefficient, as one poster already pointed out.
Methinks the cops showing up was a coincidence. Or maybe they're onto you already - nothing to do with your communications on PoF.......
Namaste........ | |
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| law enforcement using pof to trap criminals?
Posted: 8/3/2008 8:24:53 PM | | From what I've been told. Only a crazy person would actually use a drug's name on the internet. Instead, people would say something like "420 friendly". This is what I was told when I asked someone else on-line about it. They wouldn't be on this site doing it. They would be on Craig's List. I see this on Craig's List A whole lot. And they use it on those night-time chat-lines on latenight T.V., too; from what I was told. | |
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