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 exodusi1

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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:57:27 PM
20,ooo,ooo love rush, to be sure, but 280,000,000 Americans don't.
 Written by Hank

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Posted: 7/6/2008 9:27:55 PM

20,ooo,ooo love rush, to be sure, but 280,000,000 Americans don't.


Probably less than twenty million listeners, now. I figure this contract issue was an attempt to stir-up a little interest in Rush. He's been losing listeners for years. The star is fast fading. Some in the republican party see Rush as irrelevant and would prefer to distance themselves for him.

I think they see him as a relic from the nineties. A man out of time and place. No longer important.
 exodusi1

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Posted: 7/6/2008 9:40:30 PM
I can only hope he begins to fade, he represents everything that is wrong with today's political atmosphere. The days of men like Adams and Jefferson are long gone, instead we get men like rush and newt.

I think they might have screwed things up so badly that they will lose all of their accumulated power soon. Perhaps the overspending on rush is a sign that they are desperate to maintain what little they still have.
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/7/2008 4:15:00 AM

20,ooo,ooo love rush, to be sure, but 280,000,000 Americans don't.




Rush Limbaugh: The King of Talk Radio Reigns Over Liberal Talkers

Rush Limbaugh is still the king of political talk radio, according to just-released Arbitron numbers for the summer of 2005, which show him trouncing the competition from liberal talkers.

An Arbitron summary posted to PR Newswire shows:

• Limbaugh beats liberal talkers Al Franken, Ed Schultz, and Jerry Springer in the all-encompassing sex/age category of Persons 12+.


• For the key target demographic of Adults 25-54 in the top 10 market grouping, Limbaugh beats Franken by a three to one margin.


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• Limbaugh also enjoys a seven to one margin against Schultz and Springer in the same market grouping category.



• In the aggregate total of the top 25 market grouping for Adults 25-54, Limbaugh again beats Franken by a three to one margin, Schultz by a five to one margin, and finally, Springer by an eight to one margin.



The Arbitron summer book also shows that Limbaugh's audience is 1.5 times greater than the combined audience of all three liberal talkers in the top 10 market grouping with Adults 25-54 - and more than 1.5 times greater in the top 25 market grouping.


The latest Arbitron numbers contradict widespread media predictions that liberal radio hosts would eventually begin to eat into Limbaugh's 20 million listener audience base, who hear him on over 600 stations.

Since it debuted last year, for instance, Franken's Air America network has added few new outlets, topping out at just 70 stations.


As you can clearly see....Rush Dominates the market and beat all three so called top liberals talk show host combined
I find it amusing that you keep throwing mud at the walls hoping something will stick!
The bottem line is Rush is number one and has been for years! So play with the numbers all you want, no matter how you try to manipulate the numbers or the readers of this post the out keeps coming out the same RUSH LIMBAUGH IS NUMBER ONE in talk show Radio
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/7/2008 4:25:33 AM
Wrong again but nice try......lol


Air America Hype Versus Reality

Which Side Will Prevail?


(April 18 Update Here)


A new batch of radio ratings have just been released, so how's liberal talk radio faring now?

Last month's Radio Equalizer report is still circulating around the Internet, including at Air America discussion sites, but new figures give an even more complete picture of its state of affairs. Here's a chance also to address some debate points from readers.

The liberal talk radio hype machine is even more sophisticated than a month ago, with near full control of radio industry trade publications, who dare not publish anything about the format's lack of ratings growth for fear of losing syndication advertising. On radio chat boards, every announced move is trumpeted, no matter how insignificant.

Credibility is becoming a big issue. At one site, Radio-Info.com, posters relentlessly plugging liberal syndicated programming are beginning to be taken to task over accuracy, but it's still largely mob rule for now. One poster has placed hundreds of messages on the site announcing liberal talk show launches.

The talking points memo distributed to this rabid pack of supporters must surely give these excuses for the lack of ratings: that it's still too new, that stations are still coming on line or that the next programming change will finally work wonders, because that's what's repeated in many places.

Air America now lists 51 mostly tiny affiliates, which is not very impressive after a full year of media attention, industry affection and trade publication hype. Many smaller conservative radio networks can boast twice that number and still not be taken very seriously by radio professionals.

There are dozens of syndicated talk program providers for conservative programming, sports and specialty shows. Many hundreds are available for stations to take and you never read about them in newspapers. Yet lots of them are carried on more stations than Air America.

And it isn't too new to measure, especially not in New York City, where WLIB's just-released numbers show, in the broadest audience measurement of adults 12+, that Air America's flagship station has declined to a tiny 1.1 share of the audience. There's a full year of data to look at now and the picture isn't pretty for lib talk.

This is below where the station stood a year ago with its previous Caribbean specialty format and a drop from a 1.2 share last month. In the Fall 2004 Arbitron survey, WLIB had a 1.4 share of the radio listening audience, so it is safe to say it's actually shrinking in popularity.

This figure gives WLIB a ranking of 24th place overall in the New York City metro area, a place that ought to be liberal radio-friendly. In Los Angeles, KTLK didn't show up in newly released numbers. More results will be released each day for the next week or so and once again we will update it here.

Another reason to spend a lot of time looking at New York City figures is that it's where Arbitron ratings data is the most accurate. That's due to the huge sample size used in the nation's largest radio market.

A big development since last month is the major hypefest surrounding the deal reached to bring Jerry Springer's radio show to 45 of Air America's affiliates. But Springer is still relatively untested in talk radio and won't rule out running for office in his native Ohio next year.

Why do "progressives" want to be associated with Springer, anyway? He's still doing his trashy TV show, how does this help their cause? How much credibility does he bring to radio?


As you can see Liberal talk radio has reduced it's self to the Jerry Springer show

In their desperate attempt to get ratings of any kind.... Jerry Springer...now that's funny and news at it's finest!
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/7/2008 4:44:52 AM

I can only hope he begins to fade, he represents everything that is wrong with today's political atmosphere. The days of men like Adams and Jefferson are long gone, instead we get men like rush and newt.

I think they might have screwed things up so badly that they will lose all of their accumulated power soon. Perhaps the overspending on rush is a sign that they are desperate to maintain what little they still have.


Dream on......the numbers just keep piling up for Conservative talk radio and as I have pointed out Rush Limbaugh just keeps getting more and more of Americans to tune in daily, while his competitors continue to fail and fall apart (Air Amercia) is just one of those examples of people sick and tired of the same old same old blah blah blah from the Liberal talk shows! Let's face it boys no matter the chatter ElRushbo is Numero Uno...

Allow me to indulge you on some numbers since you so enjoy pointing them out..
20 million people x5 days a week= 100 million listners a week x 4 weeks a month=400 million people a month tune into or hear the big program! now can you see how 400 million dollars a year is worth having a market listening base of 20 plus million listeners a day! Why it's just staggering to the liberal market since he's beating them so handsomely! Even as this article clear states...Liberals are going nuts and doing desperate things in hopes to get listeners blogging like crazy doing anything saying anything in hope to get more listeners, kind of like what we see here.....allot of attempts to derail That lovable little fuzz ball...that spanks the liberal talk shows with half his brain tied behind his back....Who has Talent on loan from God!
 exodusi1

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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:16:12 AM
Hey I conceed that the sheep who follow rush are going to continue to swell his ratings. HOWEVER the Democrats will reclaim the WH and larger majorities in BOTH hoses of Congress.

Oh, and Springer isn't the standard bearer for Liberal talk radio, it is Randi Rhodes.

Liberal talk is doing just fine. It is up and coming here in Phoenix, the fourth largest city in the country. Moreover, with our hispanic population, we will soon be a Blue state, eliminating it from the republican column. The vast majority of hispanics vote liberal; 93-95%. So, in a few years, Arizona and her 10 electoral votes will be blue instead of red a 20 vote swing. You'll have rush we'll have the WH. That's a fair trade.
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:45:02 AM

BOTH hoses of Congress
huh?

November is a long way away in political time....McCain is not far behind Obama in the National polls....the silent majority factor you fail to consider! Conservative base still has yet to come forward for McCain, and McCain is holding his own against Obama last polling I saw was obama 46% McCain 42% If you remember back in 04 Kerry had the same lead at this time and got smoked at the polls... The man you mock who has a loyal listener base of 20 plus million already shown he can rock the vote in the democratic party he kept in in the race whether you admit or not your T.V.media and talk shows on both sides were talking about Rush rocking a vote "Operation Chaos" very effective!

This country is very disenfranchised with the New Liberal Congress with their 11% approval ratings! Even Bush keeps beating them in the polling and as Libs would tell you the country hates Bush yet he keeps beating libs in the house and two terms in the White House.....Their are millions and millions right now of Americans on stand by who will go to the polls in November and pull the lever for McCain, right now McCain is living off the Reagan Dems the disenfranchise Hillary supporters Independents and a few of the liberal republicans....The main base of the party hasn't weighed in yet! but they will in November...5 months from now we can continue this conversation as McCain will be in the White House....Obama just doesn't have what it takes to run a country! If people want a preacher they will go to church, but not one that preachs hate and bigotry like Obami's church! hate whitie and hate America...Americans listen to that and many have distanced them selves from Obami! and rightly so!

Rush will have power in this election more so then what people think and if they (the Left) want to bury the heads in the sand even better....20 million plus votes will rock any nomination! It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree it is what it is!
 Ezzee

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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:13:15 AM

20,ooo,ooo love rush, to be sure, but 280,000,000 Americans don't.


I love how statistics are twisted and turned to make them say what you want.

Let's think about this for a moment. What does this number really say.

20 million people have the opportunity to and listen to rush.

Of the 280 million in the US who are not accounted to listening to rush, I wonder how many are:

Children
Working where they can not listen to Rush
Deaf, Disabled and/or mentally challenged so they can not understand what a radio is or even listen to it.
Do not have access to it in there area

There are many reasons why a person doesn't listen to Rush, but that doesn't mean that they don't love him. I'm not saying all 280 million do, but I would say there is a fair portion that does.

Your statistical analysis is like saying that because 50 million people (roughly) voted for Gore/Kerry the other 250 million are war mongers.
 17456

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Posted: 7/7/2008 10:52:32 AM
Interesting that this thread has accumulated 7 pages.
Suggests to me that Mr Limbaugh strikes a chord with Liberals to the point of motivating an opposing effort.
I somehow doubt a thread about Liberal media would have produced 7 pages of discourse.
What is it about Mr Limbaugh's particular point of view that evokes such a response from the Liberal mind ?
 designingwoman

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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:22:20 AM
The show was a conservative one, and a nasty one at that. "Cr*p" and other similar not so nice words were being used on the show, which I consider vulgar and disgusting. Air America does not permit the use of such foul language even if the FCC does not include every bad word in the book in its list of banned words. I would not want a child to hear that garbage!

Rush Limbaugh spews alot of filth and lies out of his mout, thus the strong response from the liberal mind. It is a disgusting creature that does not seem to have a soul or a conscience.

Randi Rhodes, on the other hand, served our country with honor and speaks the truth. Unlike Rush, who lies and used the excuse of having a pimple on its butt to avoid service. Anyone who supports an AWOL coward like Bush against a man who served honorably in Vietnam has no respect at ALL for duty or honor . Even if Obama didn't serve in the military, he still served the less fortunate with honor when he was a community organizer. I would take that ANY day over an AWOL coward!

I watched Barbara Walters' interview of Rush Limbaugh and had to turn it off after five minutes, as I found it to be nothing but a disgusting windbag. I'll take Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartmann any day over that vile piece of trash known as "Rush".
 PurpleCrayon~

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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:33:24 AM

Interesting that this thread has accumulated 7 pages.
Suggests to me that Mr Limbaugh strikes a chord with Liberals to the point of motivating an opposing effort.
I somehow doubt a thread about Liberal media would have produced 7 pages of discourse.


Reality is that most here will be Liberals. Just a fact. So, any topic will be more negative towards Conservatives. This site is not a true representative of most sites out there. Go to other Newsgroups and it will become evident. This site is based in Canada and still has mostly Liberals who frequent the Forums. Since, as we've been told, the Forums are only a tiny fraction of the site's purpose (the main one being 'dating')... that would indicate that Conservatives/Republicans are probably in a vast minority here. Nothing wrong with that...before anyone jumps on me. Facts are facts.

I can't find a thread where the 'cutsey' names and/or 'trashing' by the Conservatives and their chosen Political and/or News TV/Talk Radio Representatives towards the Liberals... outnumber the Liberals. But, rather the opposite, the Liberals with 'striking a cord' which results in this 'name calling'... is huge.

It is...as it is.
 exodusi1

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Posted: 7/7/2008 12:17:47 PM
25% is one poster talking about how wonderful Rush is. . . It won't matter in November. Rush will get to rant even more, as Democrats increase their position.
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Posted: 7/7/2008 12:26:06 PM

25% is one poster talking about how wonderful Rush is


That was the true intent of this thread. As I stated earlier, this thread was never intended to be a discussion on the merits of Rush's salary contract. It was only intended to be a love fest for Rush.

Even the republicans are migrating away from Rush. Many see him as a buffoon. I suspect by the time Rush's contract expires, his career will have to. Already, he is no longer relevant. The contract was simply an attempt to revive his dwindling popularity.
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Posted: 7/7/2008 3:13:26 PM

No the biggest difference is the right builds up this country and the left tears it down...


More accurately this would read 'The right has successfully crafted the illusion that the right builds up this country and the left tears it down.'

And to Rush Limbaugh's credit he was one of the major forces in crafting that illusion. He does have the power to persuade if one is unaccustomed to the template and formula his stitch.

I used to listen to Rush quite frequently, sometimes by choice (as an exercise in oppositional research), and at other times because I was captive to coworker's radios. What I've noticed of late however is the startling lack of content vs commercial segmented airtime, really long stretches of commercial content interspersed with by teaser promos, ... and I mean really long, like 5 minutes of non stop commercials, followed by a 30 second sound clip teaser bit (telling you what Rush is going to say), followed by another 5 minute round of commercials, then Rush coming on for 4 minute segment saying what the 30 second teaser bit told you he was going to say, and then breaking for another 10 minute round of commercials.

I swear it seems like the whole ****ing show is mainly commercials with small bits of Rush's fodder or wisdom, however one views these things ... but its worse than my local nightly news show that highlights an interesting item in promo, but makes you listen a full hour to reveal it in the last 2 minutes of the program. With Rush its worse, I would guess about 18 minutes of actual content per hour if you stripped off the rather long musical intro featured before every content segment, which leaves roughly 40 minutes of commercials per hour, somebody's gotta pay the piper for Rush's fat compensation ... his willing listeners are sold as a captive audience for the inordinate airtime of commercial content, and since obviously gullible, they are a perfect audiece for commercial persuation.

Apparently Rush's ardent fans must believe it is all worth it, but for me I can no longer stand the incessant blather of any commercial radio, and so I tend to listen to NPR as it is thankfully devoid of all obnoxious and screaming commercials, while being chock full of (more or less) reasonably intelligent factual analysis.

On the topic of Rush's advertisers, if you really dislike him, and would like to get him where he lives, then listen to his show and jot down the names of all his sponsors and advertisers, and send them a letter stating that because of their sponsorship you will no longer consider purchasing their products, and are recommending to all of your friends that they should follow suit.

caw
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Posted: 7/7/2008 4:44:25 PM
Here is what Rush had to say about all those advertisements on his show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06Limbaugh-t.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1


“Do you know what bought me all this?” he (Rush Limbaugh) asked, waving his hand in the general direction of his prosperity. “Not my political ideas. Conservatism didn’t buy this house. First and foremost I’m a businessman. My first goal is to attract the largest possible audience so I can charge confiscatory ad rates. I happen to have great entertainment skills, but that enables me to sell airtime.”
 Ezzee

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Posted: 7/7/2008 5:26:27 PM

Randi Rhodes, on the other hand, served our country with honor and speaks the truth.


Is this the same Randi Rhodes who said that Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton were whores?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/air-america-host-randi-rh_n_94863.html

The same Randi Rhodes who called Clinton supporters White Trash?

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/22/232141/667


I'll take Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartmann any day over that vile piece of trash known as "Rush".


And people wonder why there is so much partisanship going on in this country? Not hard when your choice does things like this.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44025
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Posted: 7/7/2008 5:32:39 PM
And if you asked the average ditto-head what was being sold they most likely would mention the produsts advertised ... but no my mushbrained minions Rush might possibly think ... yes my lovelies those surely are products, but that is NOT the product being sold.

So what then? You my minions, you are being sold.

caw
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Posted: 7/7/2008 10:48:57 PM
come on z... that's the best you can do stacked up against death threats?????

and if the shoe fits......

calling someone a name is different than espousing the deaths of others....... this is beneath you....
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:21:18 AM

I love how statistics are twisted and turned to make them say what you want.

Let's think about this for a moment. What does this number really say.

20 million people have the opportunity to and listen to rush.

Of the 280 million in the US who are not accounted to listening to rush, I wonder how many are:

Children
Working where they can not listen to Rush
Deaf, Disabled and/or mentally challenged so they can not understand what a radio is or even listen to it.
Do not have access to it in there area

There are many reasons why a person doesn't listen to Rush, but that doesn't mean that they don't love him. I'm not saying all 280 million do, but I would say there is a fair portion that does.

Your statistical analysis is like saying that because 50 million people (roughly) voted for Gore/Kerry the other 250 million are war mongers.


Thanx for your thoughts....I was thinking along the same lines that his analogy was rather dismal at best! Using that same thought process then it could be said the 18.1 million people who voted for Hillary and 17 plus million who voted for Obama leaves ruffly 265 million voters who are for McCain...
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:24:30 AM

I somehow doubt a thread about Liberal media would have produced 7 pages of discourse.
What is it about Mr Limbaugh's particular point of view that evokes such a response from the Liberal mind ?


Jealousy misery and envy....if I were guessing, they would love to have a powerful voice like Rush supporting their cause, rather then hoping Jerry Springer is the hope for Liberal talk radio come back
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:34:42 AM

The show was a conservative one, and a nasty one at that. "Cr*p" and other similar not so nice words were being used on the show, which I consider vulgar and disgusting. Air America does not permit the use of such foul language even if the FCC does not include every bad word in the book in its list of banned words. I would not want a child to hear that garbage!

Rush Limbaugh spews alot of filth and lies out of his mout, thus the strong response from the liberal mind. It is a disgusting creature that does not seem to have a soul or a conscience.


For someone who professes not wanting to hear to filth vulgar disgusting words as you say Rush uses which he does not as he would be off the air if he did ...most of your responses are filled with venom and hate, it's amazing how you call me and others names and your descriptions of Bush McCain Mitt and people on the right are so filled with vile remarks, yet you claim this is what you can't stand about them? a bit of a double standard don't cha think?
 PocoLoco44

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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:41:29 AM

can't find a thread where the 'cutsey' names and/or 'trashing' by the Conservatives and their chosen Political and/or News TV/Talk Radio Representatives towards the Liberals... outnumber the Liberals. But, rather the opposite, the Liberals with 'striking a cord' which results in this 'name calling'... is huge.

It is...as it is.


Very true.......What I find to be truly astonishing is Liberals are the ones who claim to be the tolerate ones and thsoe who are more willing to accept peoples differences...it sounds good in theroy but reality show it to be quite the opposite! The berating and hateful comments, seem to come from the left regularly, especially when they don't have a point...the it shifts to name calling and hate! Very Disturbing indeed!
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:03:25 AM

That was the true intent of this thread. As I stated earlier, this thread was never intended to be a discussion on the merits of Rush's salary contract. It was only intended to be a love fest for Rush.

Even the republicans are migrating away from Rush. Many see him as a buffoon. I suspect by the time Rush's contract expires, his career will have to. Already, he is no longer relevant. The contract was simply an attempt to revive his dwindling popularity.


This post was never intended to discuss whether or not Rush deserves the contract, I never asked that question? It was about Talk Radio the new Media outlet...

Rush Limbaugh just happens to be the one with the largest listening base and makes the most money! That's whats eating you up inside! His listener base is 20 plus million and his numbers are greater then the top 3 the liberal talk show host combined! I would say that in and of it's self show he deserves the contract ...what you do you think Hank? If were purely recognizing numbers he is without a doubt the top Gun in Radio!

You continue to use the term "Love Fest" which further shows your contempt of his success...I am as proud to be a Conservative as you are being a Liberal...so what! it's our choice and how we think and feel! are you having a love fest with Obama and liberals? or do you just feel their thinking is more in line with yours? Think about it Hank!
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Posted: 7/8/2008 1:10:43 AM
Only in America where a pill poppin' lying ass douchebag can recieve millions for being so
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