| Obese kids
Posted: 7/4/2008 11:50:44 AM | | Its George Bushes fault...period! If Al Gore had got in it would have all been fine.... | |
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l3sl3y
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Joined: 5/12/2008
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Posted: 7/4/2008 11:51:45 AM | i dont agree that people eat junk food because they can't afford proper healthy food - that is just not true at all. Anyone can go to a market late on a Saturday afternoon and buy a whole box of fruit and veg (a cotchel) for as little as £1. Wholemeal pasta is just pennies a packet - you can make wholesome filling meals out of virtually nothing at all if you put your mind to it.
I never eat so well as when my student daughter is home - she is so imaginative with food - and not a cheap biscuit or cake in sight.
A lot of the problem is that people just don't know how to cook at all - I am amazed at how many people I work with who openly admit that they can't cook a roast dinner or don't know how to make spag bol! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 1:24:18 AM | | The thing is junk food and snacks give people a mental boost as well. Some choclate biscuits give a better boost than an apple if that person is addicted to the biscuits. People need to break bad habits in their food intake, and believe me (speaking as someone who could easily get through 3 chocolate bars a day), once the habit of buying those addictive foods is broken, it doesn't take too long - perhaps just a week or so - before the need to buy them simply goes. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 4:18:33 AM | | The Market is a great idea if there is one where you live. The only thing we have here is a farmers market that comes every few weeks, but a lot of the stuff they sell is organic or speciality. Whilst it is beautiful food it is definitely not cheap. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 4:48:31 AM | got a friend who is not local and probably see him and his kids every few months, often quite a shock to see one of the girls, she is far to heavy to pick up for a cuddle as she puts it, guess she is 8 or 10 stone, maybe even as much as her older sister ?
father deep fat fries every meal, her mother is in the 25 stone region and moved up north after the penny dropped that the 2 kids by the 2 women who are always popping round were fathered by the friend and not some unknown guy
the older sister, younger sister and 2 brothers are all quite thin, mostly due to being active
guess if they dumped the deep fat frier, then it might be better | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 5:00:30 AM | TBH though, is this not partly down to lifestyle now? Parents are to scared to let kids go out & play all day long on weekends & holidays because of phaedophiles, fears of there children being hurt, traffic etc. So get them Playstations to keep them close & safe (??)ect
Diets years back were unhealthy as well, friend left overs, roast dinners, lard ect, but kids used to spent 8 hours running around everyday, not sitting around in front of a screen. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 5:09:27 AM | Erm - not very - eat this good food or don't eat - simple. (exluding soem gene displacements, but then you can still get help)
Fatty, reproduced foods are more expensive, anyone can go to a market and buy fruit and veg (keeps local people in business) and is cheaper than a supermarket. I even used to take the left overs when they had gone when I realy had no money - and I mean no money.
Better still get your kids digging the garden and growing your own if you still say you can't afford it! That way they lose weight too
My Mum was on her own running a business and looking after us kids, we never ate jumk food and our bellys are now accustomed to good food. I feel sick if I eat a Maccy D's
So no excuse for anyone - she did it on considerably less money than those on benefits.
What gets me is the RSPCA can fine you for mistreating your dog by feeding it too excess, but it's OK to kill your kids off early in their lives by giving them a crap diet!
As for no exercise - no excuse there either - go with your kids for walks out that's fookin free
Tell you what as well, we had a lesson called Home Economics - anyone remeber? We were taught about balanced diets and learn basic cookery skils - male or female.
So again - no fookin excuse, lazyness that was it is - can't be botheredness. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:31:08 AM | Another angle.
If you have ever read 'Lord of the Flies', would you want to be stuck on a desert Island with some skinny little runt and a big pan?
Kids have to have SOME junk in their diets, on average a child has 2000 taste buds, compared to an adult who averages 500.
Just a bit of practical parenting can go a long way to sorting this issue out.
My git complains if we have chips (oven) more than twice a week.
He is active as a boy of his age needs to be, though as I type he is kipping on the couch ~ having found it important to wake me at stupid o'clock to let me know some old duffer out of Emmerdale Farm has snuffed it! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 7:52:11 AM |
Tell you what as well, we had a lesson called Home Economics - anyone remeber? We were taught about balanced diets and learn basic cookery skils - male or female.
So again - no fookin excuse, lazyness that was it is - can't be botheredness
oooowww, i had that lesson at school, was last period, i hated it when it ran over if you were baking a cake, ment i did'nt have time to get the shops to buy crips, fizzy drinks & sweets for the bus trip home | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 1:11:39 PM | | They just need more exercise, most parents drop there kids at school in the car if they exercised alot wouldnt matter what they ate so much :). Problem is how mayn kids actually walk to school now if they dont get dropped off by car they take the bus. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 3:12:01 PM | Hi im just new to this forum but had to jump in about the Arthritis point you raised...
I have a child with arthritis.... she is neither fat, nor a junk food eater.... on a recent trip out with over 110 Arthritic kids.... not one of them was over weight.... if anything our kids are underweight.... I am over weight... not obese... she is under weight.
It may be that being a heavy kid places strain on your joints but it does NOT cause arthritis ....
Kids should have their food moderated.... to have a large child to me is neglect... My DD eats a varied healthy diet with some fat foods thrown in to boost her weight .... but you should be watched if you cant feed your child appropriately | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 3:20:58 PM | Errr.. would it help if they bulldozed the housing estates that they built on the school playing fields and allowed the children to play on them during their breaks... hey they could even run around.... Or is that harking back to a more sensible period in the 20th Century, when kids could fall over, play rough games and even get into scraps without the parents sueing the school, LEA, council etc??????????? (a little matter that p1sses me off by the way)
Kids get hurt in play.....believe it or not... don't blame the school or society...!! Teach them to lick their wounds (metaphorically of course... we couldn't have them risking catching germs could we???) and get on with playing..... Stop them behaving like nancies all the time...!!!!!!!!
Ruffy | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 3:33:46 PM | | all this not being able to chastize your kids and not be able to give em corparal punishment at school is having a knock on effect on all walks of life..now they are beating feck there teachers at school..beating there own parents up..getting together in gangs and booting to death any adult who comes out of his house ask them to move away from there door..they are even stabbing and shooting each to death on a very regular basis..when in my day it would of been a wild display of fisticuffs..so what chance have you got now of stopping your kids of being obese...? if you dont give em burgers and chips for there breakfasts instead of a bowl of kellogs..they will beat you up..so what can we do..? nothing..until this country sorts itself out..obese kids will be,,, | |
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l3sl3y
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Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 39 | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 3:48:50 PM |
Kids get hurt in play.....believe it or not... don't blame the school or society...!! Teach them to lick their wounds (metaphorically of course... we couldn't have them risking catching germs could we???) and get on with playing..... Stop them behaving like nancies all the time...!!!!!!!!
well said - couldn't agree more Ruffy  | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 3:50:05 PM | I sometimes suspect I live in some kind of timewarp. My kids play out - a lot. My kids eat decent food. And my kids are thin.
I do hate seeing overweight kids, I always feel they're being deprived of a normal childhood, so often these are the families for whom a regular shop consists of piles of multipack crips/chocolate bars/ready meals etc. And these aren't cheaper than regular food, far from it. It's just pure ignorance/laziness/indifference. (Delete as appropriate)
Re: letting your kids play out. I see parenthood as a job. The job of bringing up kids to be independent individuals capable of making decisions - give them some freedom to make mistakes!
Soapbox Annie | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 5:02:06 PM | Just how hard is it to make kids eat healthy and less obese- it depends entirely on how good the parents are- if we move the analogy on so that we can see where the weaknesses lie:
" if you owned a fat dog that was unhealthy, defacated too much and was too heavy what would you do?
You would reduce its food, cut out the snacks, and exercise it more until it became healthier and happier. and leave it with a healthier lifeststyle to maintain its weight.
If you have a strong backbone you would use the same method on the kids.
And If you have a stronger backbone you would use the same method on yourself!!
anything else is denial. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2008 5:10:06 PM | | as MissSelf says i think we should get the RSPCA involved, it would maybe scare parents not to feed there children constant shite, it won't be cats they'll be getting out of tress soon, it will be kids who have run of with the sweet jar in desperation because of lack of sugar & sweeteners in there diet | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 3:22:28 AM | | Exercise may, but most likely may not, get a child slim who is prone to eating snacks whilst watching tv. But that won't stop the fat gathering on and around vital organs in his or her body, which is why it is possible for relatively slim people to have heart problems due to too much fat in their diet. Never mind the fact that they exercise - exercise is not enough. It should go hand in hand with healthy eating. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 5:16:58 AM |
Yet.. He eats less than my daughter and she is a strip of wind, his mother is overly careful with his diet and he never eats sweets, he never has done.. He doesn't have any junk food and the one time I went with them to McDonalds he chose carrot strips and a fresh fruit bag ...
totally agree with the above.
My daughter has two kids, almost 13 (grand daughter) and (almost 10) grandson.
My grandson was a faddy eater, and yet is stick thin.
My grand daughter is bigger than i am, but she has been asthmatic all her life, and steroids has slowed her metabolism and made her gain weight (at age 7 she was on adult dose of two inhalers).
She doesnt touch junk food, doesn't overeat and lives on fruit and salads.
She swims 5 times a week, wins cross country races at school and is fit as a butchers dog.
Yet - she gets teased because of her size.
But people don't know she's asthmatic so automatically think she's a junk food addict. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 2:31:25 AM | While I agree that allowing your child to become obese is neglectful I think it's an extremely difficult issue to deal with. My daughter is almost twelve and far taller and more developed than other children her age. While she is not at all overweight she has a bad body image and is extremely insecure. I tell her regularly how beautiful she is yet she doesn't feel that way. She is self consious of her rapidly developing body and can't understand why she's different to her friends.
I find school even more difficult to deal with as the food on offer there is unhealthy and unbalanced so I've had to talk her in to taking a packed lunch. Changing for PE is communal and is done in the classroom and there are no sanitary bins on site in school so she has to use the teacher's toilets. The crunch came for me when I received a letter home telling me that all year 6 children were to be weighed as part of a government paper on childhood obesity. After hours of tears about her friends knowing what she weighs I told the school that my daughter would not be taking part.
She has developed an obsession with fashion and thinks that Kate Moss has a body to aspire to.
I think that obesity in children needs to be addressed but I believe that the insensitive manner in which schools go about this can be extremely damaging in what is already a a difficult and confusing time for kids. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 6:51:36 AM | i read a report the other day and it states that 10% of 5 yearolds are obese and 22% of being overweight or obese
in 10 to 12 year olds that figure goes up to nearly 33% obese or overweight children | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:19:24 AM | What I dont get about obseity is the ultimate 'cure' is a gastric band etc.
If it isn't directly linked to your digestive tract and what you put into it then how do they work?
OT:Yup, they're a bad thing | |
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jacks,
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Joined: 5/19/2008
Msg: 48 | |
| Obese kids
Posted: 7/7/2008 3:58:52 PM | | low education levels and social deprivation also plays a large part in the obesety debate. the circle needs to be broken....... through education. | |
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