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Iran as we know it will be gone in five years.

Seriously, you think that "18 guys with box cutters kicked our butts." What the US can do to them would make what they did look like a stubbed toe.

Does funding terrorist attacks inside Iran comprise 'something really potent'?

we will punish them for decades by freezing their finances and capturing/killing their top dogs ..... notice they haven't shown their faces around the US in 7 years.

But I do understand that the Maliki government is so concerned with the ops that he is considering ordering the US to not stage the ops from Iraq. That would be a test of Iraq's purported sovereignity that the US is desperate for them not to make.

The covert ops inside Iran are being designed to goad the country into making a response that the US can exaggerate into another Gulf of Tonkin. So far, Iran is having none of it.

But I do understand that the Maliki government is so concerned with the ops that he is considering ordering the US to not stage the ops from Iraq. That would be a test of Iraq's purported sovereignity that the US is desperate for them not to make.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has cautioned the United States against using Iraqi territory to carry out attacks on Iran...Maliki said he was concerned about military pressure aimed at Iran regarding the country’s nuclear activities, adding he would not permit U.S. forces to use Iraqi land, airspace and waterways as a means for attacking states in the region.

Seriously, you think that "18 guys with box cutters kicked our butts." What the US can do to them would make what they did look like a stubbed toe.

To say that the New York Times played an important role in the dissemination of Bush Administration "propaganda" is ludicrous in my opinion. The New York Times is so far left and so hostile to the Bush Administration that it can hardly see straight.

Judith Miller's Dirty Little Secret
by Ahmed Amr ,(Sunday, August 7, 2005)

The role of the media in Iraq is an entirely different story from Vietnam. We’ve gone from Walter Cronkite giving a straight account of “the way it is” to Field Marshal Judith Miller insisting “I was ****ing right.” We might have avoided this quagmire had it not been for Miller’s active participation in this well-orchestrated campaign of mass deception. But Miller is hardly entitled to take full credit for beating the war drums. At CNN, Wolf Blitzer converted his whole program into a ‘War Room’ and gave the red carpet treatment to an endless parade of neo-conservative chicken hawks. Having spent a decade working for the Jerusalem Post, it’s highly doubtful that Blitzer was unaware that his guests had long resumes of promoting Israeli agendas.
If the average American had blinders on about Iraq, there is no mistaking the hands that pulled down the shades on the WMD hoax and the subsequent ‘intelligence failure’ scam. Blitzer, Miller, Krauthammer, Friedman and Safire certainly knew the ideological origins of Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith. It is common knowledge that operatives with well-established Israeli connections are very prominent in neo-con think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute. Blitzer and his fellow travelers routinely promoted these war lobbyists as ‘WMD scholars’, ‘experts on terrorism’ and ‘resident military strategists’ who had an exclusive inside track on the history, politics and culture of the Middle East. These oracles also claimed a unique ability to forecast future events in Iraq. Which begged the question: if the invasion of Iraq was going to be nothing more than a ‘cake walk’ – why was Saddam considered such an immediate threat?
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With the exception of the Spanish American war, it is hard to think of another military campaign that was virtually launched by the mass media. The Fourth Estate was a full partner in this bloody venture. Judith Miller and Wolf Blitzer’s hands are soaked in the blood of the tens of thousands of Iraqis and Americans who have perished in this war of choice. The New York Times, as an institution, was actively and systematically cooking the books to coerce the public into backing the invasion of Iraq.
Of course Sulzberger was not the only publisher who enthusiastically contributed his paper’s resources to market this conflict. Donald Graham at the Post and Rupert Murdoch of FOX are equally guilty. It follows that these mass media moguls are hardly inclined to investigate the role of Sulzberger or Judith Miller in engineering this quagmire. Notice how Judith Miller and Karl Rove have miraculously vanished from the headlines. No one wants to dig deeper into this pit – because the snake’s head can only end up devouring the snake’s tail.
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In Washington, they all know Judith Miller’s dirty little secret. Miller is a senior neo-con propagandist. If she goes down, she won’t go down alone. She will take the paper of record and Sulzberger with her. Her intimate relationships with Ahmed Chalabi, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, AIPAC, and the American Enterprise Institute are all part of the public record. Miller coordinated her work with the Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon, an outfit set up by Wolfowitz and Feith and tasked with fixing intelligence to make a case for war. Judith Miller is pleading the fifth to avoid confessing to the prominent role she played in launching weapons of mass deception at the American people.
The neo-con cabal and the Israeli lobby are an instrumental force in framing the foreign policy of the United States towards the Middle East. Other political forces had considerable influence in charting the path to war – including the equally formidable Saudi lobby and the usual suspects in the military industrial complex. But only the neo-cons had access to the media muscle necessary for implementing a massive propaganda campaign to sell the war. Judith Miller was by far the most lethal weapon in the war party’s media arsenal – if only because she wrote for The New York Times.

When they make statements like wanting to wipe Israel off the map

July 13, 2008

President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran

As Tehran tests new missiles, America believes only a show of force can deter President Ahmadinejad

Uzi Mahnaimi in Washington

President George W Bush has told the Israeli government that he may be prepared to approve a future military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities if negotiations with Tehran break down, according to a senior Pentagon official.

Despite the opposition of his own generals and widespread scepticism that America is ready to risk the military, political and economic consequences of an airborne strike on Iran, the president has given an “amber light” to an Israeli plan to attack Iran’s main nuclear sites with long-range bombing sorties, the official told The Sunday Times.

“Amber means get on with your preparations, stand by for immediate attack and tell us when you’re ready,” the official said. But the Israelis have also been told that they can expect no help from American forces and will not be able to use US military bases in Iraq for logistical support.

Nor is it certain that Bush’s amber light would ever turn to green without irrefutable evidence of lethal Iranian hostility. Tehran’s test launches of medium-range ballistic missiles last week were seen in Washington as provocative and poorly judged, but both the Pentagon and the CIA concluded that they did not represent an immediate threat of attack against Israeli or US targets.

“It’s really all down to the Israelis,” the Pentagon official added. “This administration will not attack Iran. This has already been decided. But the president is really preoccupied with the nuclear threat against Israel and I know he doesn’t believe that anything but force will deter Iran.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4322508.ece

...but a small group of men laugh all the way to the bank.