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Posted: 7/6/2008 10:19:23 AM | Hi Stefano!
I've enjoyed many of your posts. Anyway, I would not want such slimeballs representing me. Granted some of them are Democrats, but I've noticed that the overwhelming majority of these dirtbags who engage in sick behavior are right wing Republicans. I think it goes with the territory | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 11:29:55 AM |
I will say that I'd be willing to bet there are as many Democrats with weird sexual behavior. I won't go digging because I honestly believe there are topics which are on the issues that can be discussed and would serve better for debate.
and if this thread were about a Democrat would you still feel it was "bait?" Probably not.
Because these two men, who have the responsibility to voice the opinion of their fellow man, such as myself, who happen to support the bill, have concurred with many others that this is the wish of the people , we should set fire to them as hypocrites?
I don't think that to many of "the people" would share your oppinion on thsi one. And they are hypocrites.
And as far as for the expected brawl, Im a lover, not a fighter
unless you are a man that wants to marry another man....no love for that | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 11:36:27 AM | How many democrats are trying to ban their own sexual behavior, thats the real question.
The other question is why are these guys trying to do this? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 12:06:51 PM |
How many democrats are trying to ban their own sexual behavior, thats the real question.
The other question is why are these guys trying to do this?
I figured Ted Haggard, the evangelical pastor who left his Colorado Springs pulpit (and the presidency of the National Association of Evangelicals) after news broke of his sexual relationship with a male prostitute, could give it his blessing and that would really make the irony that much more surreal.
There's just something about that dogmatic morality that attracts weirdos. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 12:44:49 PM |
I don't know, but it appears that two Republicans who have been busted recently for Adultery (one of them homosexual) appear to believe it's time to legislate morality they don't appear to have.
I don't know how much clearer I can make it. so what? if we knew of every politician who committed adultery we would be spending so much time on gossiping about "affairs".. besides isn't this their own private business? Remember these two are probably only 2 of hundreds or thousands of Republicans/Democrats who have affairs and if you want to get Religious about it.. yes they have sinned.. but that is between them and their God.. in my opinion. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 12:55:18 PM | | As has been mentioned already, it is just extremely ironic that the two people presenting this bill have had very public scandals. Of course all of our sins are between us and our final judge, but look at what they're doing~they are trying to make marriage only between a man and a woman. Doesn't that kind of smack of judgement? I think the OP's intentions are to show the ridiculousness of two people who are presenting what can be considered a judgemental bill, when they have both done these extremely questionable things themselves.....how many times does this need to be reiterated? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 1:12:01 PM |
so what? if we knew of every politician who committed adultery we would be spending so much time on gossiping about "affairs".. besides isn't this their own private business? Remember these two are probably only 2 of hundreds or thousands of Republicans/Democrats who have affairs and if you want to get Religious about it.. yes they have sinned.. but that is between them and their God.. in my opinion.
Well for one you're making an assumption of adultery about these other people, and I do agree, adultery is personal for your standard person, hell I don't even really care about it when a person commits adultery if they're a politician.
of course when they commit a CRIME while running on a platform of MORALITY maybe they should be held to a higher standard?
I'm really curious where the disconnect is here for you? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 1:23:02 PM |
of course when they commit a CRIME while running on a platform of MORALITY maybe they should be held to a higher standard? They will have to answer to a higher power.. the higher power is forgiving and gracious.. their constituants may or may not be forgiving.. I can think of many politicians who have had affairs and yet are still endeared to this day.. one in particular is John F. Kennedy who I really admired. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 1:36:28 PM | I agree that these doofuses should be held to a higher standard: they are hypocrites, plain and simple.
Among the worst of these "moral values" clowns is Newt Gingrich, who is hypocritically doing a campaign to put GOD back in government. Get this: He served divorce papers to his wife when she was dying of cancer! Family values...NOT!
I don't listen to conservatives mouth off about family values--usually something comes out sooner or later to show that these "people" display anything BUT family values!!
The genuine articles who truly support family values do so by their actions and compassion toward families. They don't have to mouth off about family values, which to me include supporting marriage between both opposite sex and same sex couples (monogamy should be encouraged!!), allowing gays to adopt children who otherwise would languish in foster care, and not discriminating against people for traits with which they are born. Those are REAL family values!! Hatred is not a family value is a bumper sticker I see from time to time, and it is so true. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 2:41:17 PM |
They will have to answer to a higher power.. the higher power is forgiving and gracious..
can we all play this way? Not pay for a crime because we will pay for it later in some form of after life. It is irresponsible to turn a blind eye because this is thought of as more of a "moral issue" than a crime. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 3:02:15 PM | I am 100% against death! Even though one day I will certainly die. I guess that makes me a hypocrite. Or maybe, I shouldn't warn people about a police speed trap that catches alot of people. I got caught speeding. So, I guess that means I can't warn anyone about the trap. That would make me a hypocrite. Boy! Sure wouldn't want to be that! A friend of mine got lung cancer after smoking for years. He warned me about smoking. I guess I should have called him a hypocrite.
Why is it that sometimes a person is called a hypocrite, while other times they are not. Seems like ALL parents are hypocrites. Because they warn children not to do the exact things they have learned was wrong or harmful. Seems kind of odd. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 3:10:17 PM |
can we all play this way? Not pay for a crime because we will pay for it later in some form of after life. It is irresponsible to turn a blind eye because this is thought of as more of a "moral issue" than a crime.
Authorities take care of crimes.. we are not to judge... "let him who is without sin cast the first stone" and since I'm not a politician and this is a message board I feel free to throw a little religion into my post. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 3:48:42 PM | Authorities take care of crimes
Police enforce the law.
Legislators pass and enact laws.
These men are legislators.
Ok, let's try this little scenario. I'm hoping we all know about the kind of recent MLB steroid scandal, otherwise I'll lose you pretty quick-like.
Jose Canseco and Barry Bonds are elected co-baseball commissioners tomorrow. They decide to pass a new rule, for the whole of baseball, that there will be no more drinking of Gatorade. They pass this new rule, because Gatorade has been 'scientifically proven' to replace electrolytes lost during strenuous activities, and therefore could be construed as a performance enhancing beverage. No MLB players are ever allowed to drink it again, and if caught, their reputations would be tarnished as well.
Now how much sense does that make? Given especially the fact that Bonds was not stripped of his record, and these men are still either working in baseball or making money off their time in baseball....and were both outed as having used the highly controversial performance enhancing steroids that are outlawed by the MLB, about 50 times a step up from Gatorade. How plausible is it that they could pass the Gatorade rule? Don't you think that'd make them seem just a tad hypocritical???????
And can I just add that yes authorities take care of crimes....but these two men are trying to make something a criminal offense, based on morality when they showed little morality themselves. You keep saying 'we can not or should not judge', yet this bill is based on a moral judgement......
I just feel like none of this is sinking in here | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 7:57:45 PM |
Police enforce the law.
if they've broken a LAW then the Police will enforce it.. what is so unusual about Legislators being unfaithful? In this world we live in with lack of values and morals.. look how people live on the West Coast.. anything goes.. it's not just Adultery we've had Legislators charged with hitting WH security personnel and other embarassing charges.
.. maybe these men realize their mistake and want to fix it. It takes a bigger person to admit a mistake and perhaps work to correct it. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:07:20 PM | I think that the Senators irregardless of personal behavior have to abide by the will of constituants. That is not saying that constituants agree with their behavior. The marriage protection act is an important issue to many Americans. Not just Republicans but Democrats also. I heard a saying once that people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Hypocisy is not limited to any political party. The importance is not the messengers, it is the message. It is my strong belief and opinion, that marriage should be exclusive for man/woman marriages. I commend the two Senators not for hypocrisy but for the courage it took to sponser the bill. Don't be so sure that this bill will not become a reality sooner or later and I will say thank God for it when it becomes the law of the land.
As for the poster that would NEVER want such disgusting people to represent her, I offer this list of disgusting Senators that represent the Democrat party:
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.
James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.
Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..
Eliot Spitzer- Democrat - New York governor - resigned from office after being tied to a prostitution ring.
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.
Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.
Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.
Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.
George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.
Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison
Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.
John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison
Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.
Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.
Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.
Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.
Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.
Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.
James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.
John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.
Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.
David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.
Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.
Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute
Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.
Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.
David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.
James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.
Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.
William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.
Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.
Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.
Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.
Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.
Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.
Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.
Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use
Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.
Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.
Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.
George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.
Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury
Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.
Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.
Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.
Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.
Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.
*- While some topic drift is allowed in a thread, it's clear to me that this is just meant as a tit-for-tat swipe and is not on-topic to the OP. If you want to start a thread on Democrats who have commited crimes and can do it in a way that is not flamebait and relevant, go ahead. Replies to this post, however, will be deleted. Keep it on-topic in future people. -TheMadFiddler-* | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:23:54 PM |
.. maybe these men realize their mistake and want to fix it. It takes a bigger person to admit a mistake and perhaps work to correct it.
So relizing their mistakes and wanting to fix them means denying the rights of others? I fail to see how discriminating against a group of people because of their sexual oreintation is being a bigger person. And have they admitted to any of their wrong doings? i believe that one retracted (or tried to) his original guilty plea.
Authorities take care of crimes.. we are not to judge... "let him who is without sin cast the first stone" and since I'm not a politician and this is a message board I feel free to throw a little religion into my post.
your right, we are not to judge....and that includes sexual oreientation. I find it amazing how judgemental some christians can be on this topic. Tell me, if Jesus was walking the earth today do you think he would be going around condemming people for their sexual oreintation? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:27:06 PM | Somebody point to where I claimed that Democrats hadn't committed crimes, the point is that none of these people are sponsoring legislation that is directly related to their own criminal acts... within a year of committing them!
Also, perhaps http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm isn't the best source for unbiased discussions of democratic members. The post about Clinton is just laughable. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:31:38 PM | glamour6, an affair I can understand and even forgive ....although I really felt Clinton got what he deserved, impeached, after he took BJs in the OVAL OFFICE and lied to the entire country.......but these two, soliciting another MAN in a filthy toilet stall, a complete stranger and the other guy, wearing diapers with hookers?
Thats not an affair, that is a sick person. Big difference.
And I dont care what political party they are with, to be quite honest. I dont want people like that making laws and trying to legislate morality for others when they've got their hands full themselves.
And anyway, I dont want my Constitution cluttered with that bullshit, either. Its not a federal matter. It is for individual states and churches to decide for themselves. I do not see ANY federal purpose served here, AT ALL. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:52:12 PM | And I dont care what political party they are with, to be quite honest. I dont want people like that making laws and trying to legislate morality for others when they've got their hands full themselves. let me tell ya I bet there is a lot of weird kinky crap going on in Washington by both sides of the isle the trick is to not get caught.. I've learned to not be so outraged when this happens to either side because I know that humans are not perfect and if there is a sex addiction we have therapy for that and I'm sure their Govt. Insurance will more than pay for that cost. Alot of politicians have addictions whether it be sexual, alcohol, gambling..etc..etc.. and I don't like to cast stones on peoples sexual preference the story just becomes so Tabloid. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 8:57:59 PM |
your right, we are not to judge....and that includes sexual oreientation. I find it amazing how judgemental some christians can be on this topic. Tell me, if Jesus was walking the earth today do you think he would be going around condemming people for their sexual oreintation? I can't speak for Jesus or even guess how he would feel.. some, not all Christians can be judgemental related to sexual preference but I don't think it's always necessarily related to the Bible or religious convictions.. I know many people who are opposed to homosexualty for reasons other than religion so we can't put everyone in the same box. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 1:27:14 AM | if they've broken a LAW then the Police will enforce it.. what is so unusual about Legislators being unfaithful? In this world we live in with lack of values and morals.. look how people live on the West Coast.. anything goes.. it's not just Adultery we've had Legislators charged with hitting WH security personnel and other embarassing charges.
Well this is just all over the place.
If they've broken a LAW. You do know, that bills are presented in the hopes that they become LAWS, right? (Remember this little gem? "I'm just a bill, you know I'm only a bill, and I'm waiting here on capitol hill".....that little guy eventually became ~ a law).
What is so unusual about legislators being unfaithful? Nothing. But it is unusual for them to keep their job after they've broken laws, and then go on to pass more laws that are in the general ballpark as the laws they have broken. Being unfaithful is one thing. Soliciting a prostitute is breaking the law. So is soliciting sex in a public restroom. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 3:09:52 AM |
Nothing. But it is unusual for them to keep their job after they've broken laws, and then go on to pass more laws that are in the general ballpark as the laws they have broken. Being unfaithful is one thing. Soliciting a prostitute is breaking the law. So is soliciting sex in a public restroom. Have they been found guilty? and sentenced? I might have missed that part. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 3:15:36 AM |
Have they been found guilty? and sentenced? I might have missed that part.
You could try going back to page one of the thread and reading the original post. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:25:19 AM | Everyone who co-sponsors or signs on for this bill should be pressured by their constituents to resign because they don't get their purpose in their position. Our government was not founded on regulating morality and it should never enter into that arena because morality is relative and it's not their job.
Sure the Bible and Christianity indicates strong feelings about Homosexuality but another thing in the Bible is that God never asks for us to do his job for Him. He's got it covered. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself... we are told to stay out of His business and to focus on our own business.
This is just another step away from Liberty and Freedom for all and closer to Liberty and Freedom for just a few. That's NOT my America. | |
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| Adulterous Republicans champion marriage.
Posted: 7/7/2008 7:50:28 AM |
You could try going back to page one of the thread and reading the original post.
Craig, who entered a guilty plea to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct, was detained and charged for attempting to engage in sexual activity with a male undercover police officer. His arrest and plea became public two months later. At that time, Craig attempted to withdraw his plea and enter a new plea of not guilty. To date, his efforts have been denied by the courts. Okay so I'm really not clear yet as to if he has been back to court and sentenced.. could you provide updated information for us? The article does not make it clear, only that Craig was charged.. if he has not been sentenced and found guilty yet than he's really no different than William Jefferson (D) who has been under investigation for over 2 years on more serious charges and he's running for re-election. And he was chosen by Pelosi to be on an Ethics committee. So please provide updated information on Craig if you can. | |
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