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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:30:43 PM | Too bad Mark Foley isn't still in office, they could have teamed up to protect kids too, not like the republicans would let a pedophile be in charge of protecting children. . .
Ohhhhhhhh
Where does the madness end? | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:31:28 PM | I don't believe this is actually an *attempt* to make these gents look bad when they're already doing such a superlative job of it already.
Frankly, it's worth repeating that a whole bunch of us don't care if these guys like to do it with green blow up dolls in a taxi on a ferry.....well, you get my drift. That's their private sexual preferences and only they can determine what's right and wrong for them. The laws governing sexuality are whacked; what in the hell were undercover cops doing in an airport bathroom in the first place? I'm not sure the sitation with Craig would have gone as far as it did if they had simply caught any ole average guy soliciting sex.
It's a shame both gents couldn't have learned from these experiences however and changed their position on continuing to judge the private sexual preferences of others. Instead we have this classic example of reaction formation and that's deeply saddening. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:52:23 PM | These two men have their own individual beliefs and principles, which they are entitled to just as you and I are. It is a little odd that they are supporting legislation that would prohibit gays from marrying, when they appear to be engaging in somewhat risky sexual behavior
I do believe that's the whole point of the thread.
regardless though, they apparently believe marriage should remain a traditional matter between a man and a woman. They are entitled to this belief, even if it seems illogical based upon their actions.
And I am entitled to believe that they are full of crap.
That is entirely different. Rev. Wright is a racist, bigoted minister who has spiritually advised and mentored Barack Obama for twenty years of his personal life, impacting his perception in countless unknown ways that may or may not be appropriate for one who will become the president of the free world. The relationship between these two men had nothing whatsoever to do with someone's private, personal sexual behavior and thus it is quite reasonable to scrutinize it.
Careful, that looks a little generalizing.
I have no idea how you correlate this example to what I said regarding demeaning someone's character based upon their personal sex life and preferences.
It's from this:
I have contempt for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is so desperate to make their party and their candidate look good that they'll tear down and make a character issue out of the sex lives of the candidates
I felt and still feel that the Wright controversy was blown entirely out of proportion and it seemed to me to be a 'desperate attempt' at smearing the candidate's name. That's how I made the correlation.
Well, of course not. I, on the other hand, see it as being akin to sniping about the length of Cindy McCain's skirt If you're referring to my post on that, it was a joke.....but I do feel that women over 60 should not wear skirts above the knees unless they are Tina Turner or Sophia Loren.
Of course, this is just my own personal opinion and we all have a valid one here at POF, don't we?
That's the rumor....but sometimes you'd never know it. lol | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 10:27:30 PM |
Well, of course not. I, on the other hand, see it as being akin to sniping about the length of Cindy McCain's skirt
Only if Cindy McCain then tried to put modesty legislation on the books, stating exactly how a shirt should be tailored.
, or huffing and puffing about John McCain's former marriage and his very personal, private divorce.
Only if John McCain is running on a morality based platform.
These two men have their own individual beliefs and principles, which they are entitled to just as you and I are. It is a little odd that they are supporting legislation that would prohibit gays from marrying, when they appear to be engaging in somewhat risky sexual behavior with other men; regardless though, they apparently believe marriage should remain a traditional matter between a man and a woman. They are entitled to this belief, even if it seems illogical based upon their actions. As has also already been stated, they won't be able to pass such legislation on their own and I doubt they came up with it on their own either. They were backed by their colleagues and the people that support them.
When somebody has an illogical belief, especially a belief is actively harmful and hypocritical, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out the illogical, harmful and in this case outright pandering nature of the legislation.
That is entirely different. Rev. Wright is a racist, bigoted minister who has spiritually advised and mentored Barack Obama for twenty years of his personal life, impacting his perception in countless unknown ways that may or may not be appropriate for one who will become the president of the free world. The relationship between these two men had nothing whatsoever to do with someone's private, personal sexual behavior and thus it is quite reasonable to scrutinize it. I have no idea how you correlate this example to what I said regarding demeaning someone's character based upon their personal sex life and preferences.
Huh how amusing, it's been made relatively apparent by a few posters within this thread that they don't think the two adulterers in this thread should be judged for their own actions. Yet somehow Obama should be judged by a few statements made by a man he has repudiated. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 11:34:47 PM | Obama repudiated Wright after twenty long years of close, intimate friendship and an ongoing decision to worship at the man's church. That's quite different and we're also talking about Obama applying for the position of running this country and making decisions for all Americans. He could be the commander in chief for this nation and could be placed in that office to represent every American in this nation. I definitely think that job position warrants intense scrutiny of the candidate applying for the job, don't you?
Regardless of this, I still don't think his private marriage, sex life, and sexual preferences are our business and shouldn't be fodder for the political tabloid culture that we've become. There are simply some areas that ought to be off limits. We've no right to invade every aspect of someone's life. Stay out of these people's bedrooms. It's just uncouth to do otherwise. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 12:04:22 AM | Again, who care about the preacher. The one on the right calling for armaggeddon are far scarier and have fewer morals. Dubya doesn't go to church at all, but the neocons think he is holy.
The point isn't their twisted sexual preferences, it is the hypocracy that one is Gay, Craig, One is a whoremonger, Vitter (Switzer fits too) and the third is a pedophile, Foley. The first two, despite the fact that they were adulturers Gay and Prostitute, created legislation to tell everyone else what a true marriage is. The third, Foley, was left in charge of kids, despite being known as a predator. Not only that, they warned the Rs, but not the Ds. Not warning kids because they were sponsored by a democrat. How twisted have they become? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 12:22:03 AM |
Obama repudiated Wright after twenty long years of close, intimate friendship and an ongoing decision to worship at the man's church. That's quite different and we're also talking about Obama applying for the position of running this country and making decisions for all Americans. He could be the commander in chief for this nation and could be placed in that office to represent every American in this nation. I definitely think that job position warrants intense scrutiny of the candidate applying for the job, don't you?
We're going off topic here, but the reality is that what Wright did while reprehensible, was not illegal, no more than Pastor Hagie (who McCain actively sought) calling Catholics the whore of babalon and implying that hitler was a tool for god.
So you're attempting to judge Obama for what other people say, and somehow avoid judging people for what they have done themselves.
Regardless of this, I still don't think his private marriage, sex life, and sexual preferences are our business and shouldn't be fodder for the political tabloid culture that we've become. There are simply some areas that ought to be off limits. We've no right to invade every aspect of someone's life. Stay out of these people's bedrooms. It's just uncouth to do otherwise.
1. This is exibiting an interesting double standard. Sex life and marriage is a private business, but these people should have the right to make constitutional amendments to... invade peoples marriage and sex life.
2. If these guys had simply stayed in their bedrooms, they wouldn't be the laughing stock they are now. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 2:05:37 AM |
Sex life and marriage is a private business, but these people should have the right to make constitutional amendments to... invade peoples marriage and sex life.
A standard is being set, or attempting to be set. It can't pass without a vote though, correct? I think some standards must be set or even the most sacred of traditions will be mauled and twisted into something that is virtually unrecognizable. As I've stated in former posts, I don't really care who sets the standards, whether it be Democrat or Republican, but somebody needs to and I'm grateful that someone is attempting to. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 3:41:23 AM | Obama repudiated Wright after twenty long years of close, intimate friendship and an ongoing decision to worship at the man's church. That's quite different and we're also talking about Obama applying for the position of running this country and making decisions for all Americans. He could be the commander in chief for this nation and could be placed in that office to represent every American in this nation. I definitely think that job position warrants intense scrutiny of the candidate applying for the job, don't you?
Let's just turn this one on it's flip side for a moment. Craig repudiated homosexuals pretty much all through his career after god knows how long he was himself a closet homosexual. He applied and received a job making the laws of this country. I think that job warrants intense scrutiny as well, because obviously the man is a lawbreaker though he has the power to institute laws. Yes it needs to go to a vote. No it probably won't pass. But again, the irony is overwhelming.
A standard is being set, or attempting to be set.
And it's attempting to be set by people who think themselves above the laws that they are trying to pass.
Regardless of this, I still don't think his private marriage, sex life, and sexual preferences are our business and shouldn't be fodder for the political tabloid culture that we've become. There are simply some areas that ought to be off limits. We've no right to invade every aspect of someone's life. Stay out of these people's bedrooms. It's just uncouth to do otherwise.
Are you saying that if Obama broke a law, or McCain broke a law (remember these men are ok to put under the microscope) that was in the realm of a morality law that you would turn your head? Are you kidding? And there already was the man who came forward and said he snorted coke with Obama in the limo and had gay sex with him.....that was tabloid fodder before it fizzled out because the guy turned out to be a liar. And do I even need to invoke Monica? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:23:20 AM | | This can go on and on, but allow me one basic question. Can any of you tell us, when if ever,a republican, convicted of a sex crime, has ever been re elected, as those on the democrat side have? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:37:31 AM | | Hate to point this out but heterosexuals have been mucking about with the SACRED tradition of marriage for decades now and, wooo hoooo what a mess!!! One person's 'immorality' is another person's GREAT party. These guys want to live it up at Kinkfest '08 but still have the gonads to pander to the Christian right. I mean.....it's hysterical. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 6:12:14 AM | Republicans are in trouble with this morality play right now and maybe the scrutiny over these 2 is a smoke screen to hide the fact there have been at least 92 other republicans that have been caught committing illegal sex acts since bush has taken office.
2008
Bruce Barclay, former Cumberland County commissioner, videotaped hundreds of sexual encounters — many with male escorts — using cameras hidden throughout his Monroe Township home.[1]
Matthew Joseph Elliott, former aide to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.[2]
Vito Fossella, the only Republican member of Congress from New York City, admitted to police to having a child out-of-wedlock when stopped for drunk driving.[3]
McKee, Republican delegate from Western Maryland, announced his resignation after authorities seized two computers, videotapes and printed materials from his Hagerstown home in a child pornography investigation. McKee also resigned his position as executive director of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Washington County.[4]
Daniel Dean Thompson, 31, a Utah retailer of "family-friendly" tapes and DVDs (Hollywood films with the "dirty parts" cut out of them), arrested and booked into the Utah County jail on charges of sexual abuse and unlawful sexual activity with a 14-year-old.[5]
Derek Walker, former Eagle Scout and candidate seeking the GOP nomination in a race for north-central Pennsylvania district, was charged with felony burglary and criminal trespass stemming from an encounter last year with an ex-girlfriend, during which he allegedly broke into her home and used his cell phone to videotape her engaged in an intimate moment with another man.[6]
2007
Robert "Bob" Allen, Florida state Rep. Arrested in the afternoon at a Veteran's Memorial Park for solicitation of prostitution from an undercover male officer inside a restroom. According to the papers Bob "offer[ed] to perform oral sex for $20". Bob Later claimed that his offer had something to do with his being afraid of black people.[7]
John David Roy Atchison, Republican prosecutor, was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.[8]
E. Ozwald Balfour, chairman of the Utah Republican Black Assembly and elected to the Republican State Central Committee in 2007, even though he was awaiting trial on four felony counts of forcible sex abuse dating back to his arrest in February, 2005.[9]
John Bryan, Republican city councilman, killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.[10]
Larry Craig Republican Senator for Idaho, was arrested on July 11, 2007, by plainclothes police officer investigating complaints of lewd behavior in a Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport airport men's room. On August 8 in Hennepin County Municipal Court in Bloomington, Minnesota, Craig entered a guilty plea and paid a $500 fine.[11]. On September 1st, Craig subsequently announced his retirement from the Senate[12]. Five days later, Craig changed his mind, renounced his retirement and began a battle to have his guilty plea overturned.[13]
John R. Curtin, Monroe County state Republican committeeman, was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.[14]
Richard Curtis, Washington State Rep., resigned from the House after reports of his sexual encounter with a male escort became public.[15]
Donald Fleischman, Brown County, WI, Republican Party Chairman, resigned his post after he was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.[16]
Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest.[17]
Ted Klaudt, former South Dakota State Rep., found guilty of four counts of second-degree rape of two teenage foster daughters.[18][19]
Ronald C. Kline, Republican Judge in Orange County, CA, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer after six years of legal wrangling. In 2002, charged with child molestation and under house arrest on federal charges of possessing child pornography, political analysts still gave him a 50-50 chance of winning the March 5 primary for the Orange County Superior Court seat. He lost the election to a write-in candidate.
Joseph M. McDade, 75, was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of sexual organs, a misdemeanor that carries up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. The longtime Pennsylvania Republican congressman who served for 36 years in the House and now works for a Washington lobbying firm, has been accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort on Sanibel Island. [20]
Patrick Lee McGuire, former former Flagler County Commissioner, surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.[21]
Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.[22]
Joseph Monteleone Jr., Elyria city councilman, was found guilty of fondling underage girls and asking them, to have sex with him.[23]
Glenn Murphy Jr., chairman of the Clark County Republican Party and president of the Young Republican National Federation, resigned both posts, after the Clark County Sheriff’s Department began investigating Murphy for alleged criminal deviate conduct. A 22-year-old man claimed that Murphy performed an unwanted sex act on him while the man slept in a relative’s Jeffersonville home. During the investigation, a similar accusation from 1998 came to light.[24]
Armando Tebano, Schenectady County Republican Chairman, pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.[25]
David Vittner, junior Senator from Louisiana, became one of the few high-profile politicians to be implicated as a client of "D.C. Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey.[26]
2006
Steve Aiken, campaign manager for a Republican candidate for Congress in Arizona, former Quakertown, PA, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend, was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.[27]
Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. In August 06, Beres confessed.[28]
Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and adviser to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. [29]
Randall Casseday, Washington Times newspaper executive, pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.[30]
Larry Corrigan, Republican operative and Director of Operations and Budget at King County Prosecutor's Office, OR, was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.[31]
Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary [32]
Mark Foley, Republican Representative, Florida Sixteenth Congressional District. Resigned after trying to solicit sex from male congressional pages via an instant messenger program. The conversations included his asking a sixteen-year-old "stud" whether his penis was erect and requesting that he take out and measure his penis. The cover-up involved Republican House Majority Leader John Boehner, Ohio Eighth Congressional District and Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Illinois Fourteenth District.[33]
Jim Gibbons, then US Rep. and Republican candidate for governor, was accused by a Las Vegas casino****ail waitress of grabbing her, shoving her against a wall and threatening her after she rebuffed his advances.[34][35] Since elected Governor, Gibbons is under investigation by the FBI on corruption charges and is embroiled in what looks set to become a very messy divorce.[36]
Ted Haggard, was fired as pastor of the New Life Church and resigned from his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals in November 2006 after a former male prostitute alleged they had a cash-for-sex relationship. The man also said he saw Haggard use methamphetamine. Haggard confessed to undisclosed “sexual immorality” and said he bought meth but didn’t use it.[37]
Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a "slut".[38][39]
Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, Christian conservative activist and lawyer with close ties to Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and Scott Baugh, head of the Orange County Republican Party, was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.[40]
Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.[41]
Brent Schepp, Republican County Board Candidate was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.[42]
2005
Adelphia Communications Corp.: Donated large sums of money to some of the most conservative members of Congress. They are also the first cable company to offer hard-core adult movies to subscribers.[43]
John Collins, of Eatontown, NJ, former music teacher and city councilman, pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.[44]
John Gosek Republican Mayor of Oswego, N.Y.was arrested after paying a confidential informant $250 to introduce him to two 15-year-old girls at a hotel.[45]
Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family's Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep.[46]
Russell Harding, president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. under then-mayor Rudolph Giuliani, pleaded guilty to stealing more than $400,000 for his personal use and possessing child pornography.[47]
Neal Horsley has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. During an interview with Alan Colmes on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, he admitted to having engaged in sex with a mule at age 11. "When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule," he said. He then credited Jesus with forgiving and cleansing him of his "sin."
Horsley put photographs on his Web site of naked men engaging in homosexual acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely maimed fetuses.
Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.”
Dennis L. Rader, AKA, The BTK Killer, Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president, pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.[48]
Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Republican Mayor of Clarkfield, Minnesota, was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys--ages ten and 12--during a six-year period.[49]
Jean Schmidt, OH-2, though not herself implicated, employed a campaign manager (Joe Braun) in her 2005 election who once wrote an article condemning gay men for running sex ad profiles, and who was then accused of running his own sex profile on
Collarme, an S&M sex site. The profile called for "submissives" to wear only a collar and handcuffs and to have hot wax dripped on them.[50]
Mark Seidensticker, Republican campaign worker, is a convicted child molester.[51]
Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affair with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. [52]
Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.[53]
Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in "family values", as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit against Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times. [54]
Bobby Stumbo, former Floyd County, KY, Republican Party leader, was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.[55]
Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.[56]
2004
Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican former speaker of Puerto Rico's house of representatives, was sentenced to 13 years in prison after pleading guilty to charges of intoxicating his stepdaughter and her 17-year-old friend and attempting to rape the friend.[57]
Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair.[58]
Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent at least $5 million.[59][60][61]
Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. [62]
Jeff Gannon, partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute.[63]
Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush's values. Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.[64][65]
Also signed an ad (that called for criminally prosecuting business that sell porn), along with another pastor who was repeatedly busted for public masturbation.
Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling his 10-year old daughter and was sentenced to 10 years probation.[66]
Donald Rumsfeld, Republican Defense Secretary, may have authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.[67]
Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.[68]
Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.[69]
David Swartz, Republican Commissioner, of Richland County, Ohio pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.[70]
Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), was convicted in April 2004 on five counts of computer solicitation of a minor and one count of attempted indecent liberties with a child.[71]
2003
John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. [72]
Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip. (Overshadowing the sex scandal; the business scandal--see link.) [73]
Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fund-raiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. [74]
Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot.[75]
Philip Giordano, Republican mayor sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office.[76][77]
Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee[78], 30-pill a day drug addict.[79]. In 2006, returning from a trip to the Dominican Republic, Limbaugh was detained by customs agents for several hours after they found a bottle of Viagra prescribed to someone else in his luggage.[80]
Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner, resigned a day after being ticketed on suspicion of fondling a 17-year-old girl who was dressed as a restaurant mascot.[81]
Brent Parker Utah State Representative. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute.[82]
Stephen White, infamous for preaching against homosexuality and sexual promiscuity at Yale and other college campuses, was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.[83]
2002
Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.[84]
Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. 34% of those who voted in Assembly District 34 preferred Gardner to the Democratic candidate.[85]
Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002.[86]
Tom Randall, Republican petition drive manager of Orange County, CA, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.[87]
Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).[88] Not long afterwards, Westmoreland committed suicide.[89]
2001
Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. [90] Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. [91]
Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. [92]
Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. [93]
John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child.[94]
Donald "Buzz" Lukens, Republican Congressman from Ohio, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13.[95] Lukens was convicted in March, 1996, on five counts of bribery and conspiracy related to actions he took while in Congress.[96]
Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor [97].
Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. [98] With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). [99]
Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. [100]
2000
Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.[101]
Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him.[102]
Earl Kimmerling, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.[103]
Do we want these kind of people dictating our morality? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 6:42:59 AM |
This can go on and on, but allow me one basic question. Can any of you tell us, when if ever,a republican, convicted of a sex crime, has ever been re elected, as those on the democrat side have?
How many of the convicted democrats that went up for re-election ran on a platform of getting tough on their own behavior? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 12:47:58 PM | Mackevinized:
Do we want these kind of people dictating our morality?
I don't think I've ever in my lifetime seen a perfect person who is completely ethical and Christ-like in every way shape and form. I don't think you'll find such an individual on either side of the aisle. If you're aware of such a person, please point him or her out and maybe we can get this paragon of virtue elected into office. Unfortunately, I suspect there is no such person, thus we're going to be stuck with the infallible creatures that simply do the best they can. That's good enough for me since the alternative is what we have now, which sucks bigtime, frankly.
Again, I don't care who you get to set a standard of morality as long as there is a standard. The "anything goes," hedonistic, selfish, self centered "me" culture of "if it feels good do it" doesn't work for those of us who are attempting to raise responsible, ethical children in a culture that has returned to the seventies of free love, in a world of rampant STD'S and people with absolutely no regard for the feelings of others. I don't even want to get started onto the morality soapbox in this thread. I'll just say that what we have now is unacceptable to me. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 12:52:53 PM | Look.. it's simple. It's dumb for any politician, be it Rep or Dem who has been involved in unsavory behavior to initiate a morality based bill. I mean.. really. Doesn't it make sense that they would know they'd get trounced for it? And, if they didn't know it, they should have.
Sometimes I am truly amazed at what politicians think they can get away with. Maybe one day I will cease to be surprised/amazed. | |
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| Adulterous Republicans champion marriage.
Posted: 7/9/2008 12:59:56 PM |
I don't think you'll find such an individual on either side of the aisle.
Just staying out of jail (legitimately) would be nice for all members of congress. | |
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| Adulterous Republicans champion marriage.
Posted: 7/9/2008 1:28:34 PM |
I don't think I've ever in my lifetime seen a perfect person who is completely ethical and Christ-like in every way shape and form.
So, you're OK with child molesting perverts because they are not christ like? That might be a good argument from a minister trying to save their soul but not for a Judge and jury that puts them in jail.
Again, I don't care who you get to set a standard of morality as long as there is a standard.
We have a standard of moral reasoning. You might have heard of it, it's called the Constitution of the United States. Ever since it's been ratified, legislatures and prosecutors Judges and cops have been bound to it's ethical precepts. Maybe you could read it to your kids and point out how ethical responsible people have given their lives for it and it's helped create laws against immoral acts. | |
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| Adulterous Republicans champion marriage.
Posted: 7/9/2008 5:00:35 PM | [How many of the convicted democrats that went up for re-election ran on a platform of getting tough on their own behavior? ]
How many democrats regret their behavior enough to do so?
These Republicans will not be re elected. If other Republicans or Democrats win the seats it will be because of their behavior in spite of their efforts. I don't believe the republicans will even run them.
[So, you're OK with child molesting perverts because they are not christ like? That might be a good argument from a minister trying to save their soul but not for a Judge and jury that puts them in jail.]
This is absolutely absurd. The poster you are answering never said that. No one in their right mind would tolerate a child molester. Not even the inmates in a prison system. That is why sexual predators are locked in solitary to protect their lives. The inmates would kill them. But immoraltiy is not limited to child molestors. There are rapists,sodomists, s&m perverts and all kinds of weirdos out there. That is why aids and stds are so wide spread. I believe the constitution would and should protect the sanctity of marriage as being between a man and a woman. What people do in privacy as long as they are consenting adults is their business. They will have to deal with God on those issues,not me. But I would damn well appreciate it if they would not besmirch the sanctity of marriage with their perversions. Tolerance has its limits.
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:15:44 PM | [Google the name Jack Abromoff ~ Then we'll talk about criminal behavior and who is more prevelant]
Who has to google the Washinton super lobbyist that had so many politicains on both sides in his pockets? We are all aware of the guy. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:23:26 PM | | Corruption happens on both sides of the aisle, to be certain, however, it is disproportionate to the right. JA is a prime example of that fact. Look at his list~ | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 9:32:15 PM |
Dubya doesn't go to church at all, but the neocons think he is holy.
You know, when you continue to post out and out lies after I posted the reference to the Rector of the Church that the Bushes attend, who is THERE every Sunday and who said they attend there a couple times a month, then one wonders just what percentage of ALL your postings are lies, since you obviously have absolutely no qualms about it. | |
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| Adulterous Republicans champion marriage.
Posted: 7/9/2008 9:41:00 PM |
You know, when you continue to post out and out lies after I posted the reference to the Rector of the Church that the Bushes attend, who is THERE every Sunday and who said they attend there a couple times a month, then one wonders just what percentage of ALL your postings are lies, since you obviously have absolutely no qualms about it.
Did you know...and this is just a fun fact....that the preacher that married Jenna recently is a former pastor of Barack Hussein Obama? Right there on the Crawford Ranch...imagine it. Eeek! Now what? Do we hate him (Dubya)? Do we still love him? Whatever will we do? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 9:50:29 PM | I never lie.
I could care less if he attends, it is the hypocracy of it all. I don't attend either and I don't care what anyone's faith is. But Dubya does NOT attend church! | |
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