| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:40:08 AM | There's no value judgement attached.
Some men simply feel more "at home" in a woman's body, and that's fine with me, and I'd guess most of the posters in here.
At the same time, a heterosexual man wouldn't be interested in pursuing a romantic, sexual relationship someone who is biologically a man. It's axiomatic with the definition of heterosexuality. That's fine with me too, and I'd guess most of the posters in here.
You're going around acting like people just saying the second statement is intolerant, and that the statement is an insult, and you're ranting and raving and acting like the people saying such things are bad people. They're not. Save the sermons for actual injustice.
This thread is not specifically about peoples "sexuality"\ gender.
all the op is asking is IF shes being ignored, if this guys isnt actually interested and what she should do.
there was no hypocrisy in RedCassandras post. she wasnt insulting people for their sexuality. this is tit for tat.
there shouldnt even be an issue about this persons gender. the other posts i read were insulting the OP. If the OP was gay, would we be telling him/her that he/she got the cold shoulder because this "man" didnt know what he was getting himself into.
If your talking to someone on here you know what their gender & preference is..so i doubt it was to do with that.
regardless this question cannot be answered by us. we can give a hypothesis on what we believe his reasonings to be. but really just asking him if he changed his mind and isnt interested anymore would be a lot easier.
The title of the thread disagrees with you. OP is worried that their 'in between' status is part of the problem. I don't see it as insulting saying "Yes, it very well could be a problem", any more than a question 'is it because I'm too young/too old/too skinny/too fat/too black/too white' which we see on a daily basis would be insulting if you got an affirmative answer.
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 1:02:33 AM | Snaketigereyes the OP is asking about whether her sexual status is the problem. That is the whole point.
Unfortunately some one made an excessively direct attack on transsexuals, which I found offensive too. That post is gone. Maybe the mods deleted it. But it did answer the OPs question about whether someone might have gotten cold feet because she is, in her words, "not a real woman".
The original offensive post is gone. I deleted my response to the offensive response. But Cassandra's response to it remains. Unfortunately Cassandra's response now doesn't make sense because what she was rightly criticizing is now gone. It sounds like she is criticizing the remaining responses.
We men were asked about whether the OPs pre-op transssexual status could cause a man to have cold feet. The posts that remain answer that question. The posts that don't answer that question are off-topic. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 1:13:33 AM | | WpgGentleman2, thanks for clarifying. I withdraw my "hate-on" comment (and have nominated the now useless comments for deletion), since there was a reasonable reason to be defending OP. Sorry for the misunderstanding. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 2:21:09 AM | First of all he's not you. Just because you would have done it, everyone should act that way? You barely know this guy and maybe he still has reservations.
I see so many posts with women ripping on guys for wanting to meet quickly so again, he may want to give it some time.
If its that big a problem tell him lets meet in the next month if you are interested. If he doesn't he isn't; if he does then he is. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 6:22:59 AM | | At some point along the way you have to tell yourself: if it hasn't happened by now (contact, date or whatever) its not going to happen. Then you move on | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 7:55:36 AM | Hiya all
Thanks for your comments its a real help.
I have been out of the social loop so to speak for a while and just my flirting and whole meeting guys thing has been laid dorment because I been mainly concerntraiting on work and new business ideas. So thats why I am probably a bit impatient may be even a bit nieve?
As to my operation I will someday but not yet, as and when is my concern and am not going to jump into having an op just beacuse it may find me a partner, a partner should take me for whom I am and support during my stages of transexualisum, My friend has a great guy and they been going out for at least 8 years and he knew her before she had the operation even before hormoans but they both knew they love eachother.
I know sex is an important part of a guys idea of relationship though and I do get allot of sexually motovated offers here but that goes back to the old story "Is that all men want?" and I am not really going to go for that really been there done it.
Being intimate is nice I think it can be more exciting than sex, a nice massage, kiss and cuddle watchin a movie.
Anyway thanks for your comments am going to txt him now and see if we can set something up.
Thanks again
Lisa | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 7:58:55 AM | | Sorry what is OP???? being a bit dopy here if you mean me I do have a name Lisa :) | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 9:30:49 AM | If he really was interested, he'd have YOU at his B-day.
He's totally not interested. If he texts you at all, it's because he knows he owns you and may hook up for sex.
If you're looking for romance...forget that one luv. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:24:40 PM |
What you guys think? and have u ever had a woman instigate a meet and you not really responding with a date or anything?
Oh sure, it happens more than you know. I haven't found the correlation between it having anything to do with being a real woman....or a real man though.
he may think this...he may think that...let's play a game...
It's the one sentence, no real information emails and texts, ya know...
It's kind of like a blind stab into space...no real question, no real ideas, times, or information at all. I guess it's called just fishing....or maybe perhaps the 'I'm hoping someone will decode my hidden meaning and respond illuion"
There is no response for vague....don't overthink it...
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:26:45 PM | | to op.... hi!! - i say, trust your feelings on this one. Being a woman doesn't mean that my social calendar is bursting at the seams. Many lone nights, and lonlier days will be with you, as they are with me, a real woman...... however, when i am not entertainning, or living with someone else, guess what?? the bills get paid, and the house stays relatively clean . So , my lesson to you, is , if he don't show an interest in you- let it be!!! I have had more fun being single now... then when i was " the little wife". good luck to you. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:57:33 PM | Sorry Lisa, we regulars call the person who starts a discussion the original poster or OP for short, maybe it is rude when you did give us your name, on the other hand, when following a thread through several pages, it can save confusion as to who means who if by chance there are more than one person with the same name, but with OPs, "there can only be one" (unlike immortals who in every highlander film keep appearing from nowhere just to resurrect the plot)
love and peace
hug someone new today 
regards from 40, defender of the faith, the weak and the dark chocolate 200gram bar . | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 5:33:06 PM | | Hey,Red,you shouldn`t call me bigoted until you can read the actual words that were written!You may not want to hear it, but,yeah,the VAST majority of men actually find transsexualls repulsive,but did you even think of asking me what my own personal views and experiences may be on this subject,or read further in my comments?I am a very literal person,say exactly what I mean,and if YOU are so narrow minded and inclined to jump to conclusions,who is the bigoted one?Learn how to hear what the other person is actually saying,what their words mean literally before you make up your mind about who they are and what they are communicating!Geez,I`m cheezed off at you!!!!! | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 5:58:55 PM | ^^^What is YOUR opinion?
Since you did not express it, but chose to hide behind a general statement about "vast majority of men."
I always post MY opinions here and never pretend to speak on behalf of anyone else... unless you have some sort of data to prove the point you made here I don't see relevance of your post.
I read your post, dude. And, the guy that OP was talking about probably knew what her situation was since it is the first sentence in her profile... so to say what you said... that he had another look at her profile and that's why he changed his mind... cuz it's repulsive... is insulting. If you don't realize that, than you might have a problem yourself.
So... let's hear your opinion... I am all ears/eyes.
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 7:04:12 PM |
oceanman, please don’t jump to conclusions about what the vast majority of men actually think about transsexuals without first bothering to personally ask them as it makes you sound rather narrow minded and rather like someone who jumps to conclusions about how others think solely by reference to your own bigoted ideas.
As I am "not single and not looking", maybe oceanman, my view doesn’t mean diddly squat to you and your statements of mixed unit relative statistical analysis ( a highly technical science folks) but strewth man, I reckon you should hold back on the tinnies before attempting to construct sentences with words like 'literally' in as the rest of us poor folk don’t quite understand what you actually intend to communicate.
Anyways. my opinion as one man is available here and now, and please note you all, this man was very carefully polled by an experienced social sciences interviewer using the very latest interview protocols to ensure no bias from the interviewer could affect the interviewee.
Result of unbiased poll of one man:
Question 1: do you find humans repulsive
Answer 1: Nope
Yeah, there you have it.
Transsexuals are humans with feelings and rights just like anyone else. So anyone who uses offensive language in a thread started by one, is clearly bigoted. You don’t have to contribute your thoughts here. No one asked you to date a transsexual. No one asked for defective statistical data from you. You don’t speak for the vast majority of men, I doubt you know more than a 1000 men well enough to ask them such a question as ‘would you date a transsexual’. Nor do I, which is why I was honest and only polled one person. However if I did, I am confident that for every bigoted answer I might get I would get another answer like “I don’t know” or “it depends” And it would depend. Just as in a potential relationship between any other 2 people, it would depend. Did they like the look of them, what they did for a living, for recreation, taste in food, a hundred different aspects a successful relationship depends upon. Some men wont date brunettes, some wont date very intelligent women, some wont date women taller than themselves. Ask them if they find such women repulsive and they’d laugh. Most people are prepared to accept people as they are, even if they don’t wanna date them they see no reason to abuse them. Live and let live.
love and peace
hug someone new today
regards from 40, | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 8:02:28 PM |  You ARE a real girl already second-guessing ourselves over what boys do is an innately female trait my dear !!! | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/7/2008 8:19:04 PM | Unfortunately at times everyone one has peak periods where family, friends, and other commitments all seem to collide. However given that you have made the invitation pretty open and flexible, which you should be definately credited for, he should have been able to meet you half way. One thing though that you don't mention is if you only form of contact has been strickly texting which is very impersonal. Have you ever spoke with this person or visually spoke with them on the internet, etc?  | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 1:32:57 AM | He just text back saying " Ok" Now if taht was me I would have said" OK I am available next week or next weekend" Atleast given that open option. If I was a real woman he would have done that.
So may be am thinking he don't want to meet at all.
Never dismiss a fair Portion of the Guys still have a huge Neanderthal Streak running through them. They are often completely oblivious to good Manners, Conventions & Etiquettes called for under the Circumstances.
Expect many of them to deal with you almost in the same way they talked to the 4 Year old Girl they used to play in the Sandbox with. Some Conduct is almost tragic, pathetic ...
Don't assume Things. Either find out ... or forget it.
Assumptions lead down to Abysses of Confusions. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 4:16:59 AM | Yeah we have chatted on the phone a few times.
Thanks again for ongoing information :)
Lisa x x | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 6:38:38 PM |
If you find something "repulsive" at least be enough of a man to admit to it.
Don't hide behind "the vast majority".
Yeah. If you're going to say, "The vast majority of men find this repulsive," at least have the decency to punctuate it with, "But I'd still hit it," so that we know that you're not hiding behind a blanket statement.
Cassie, I see your point and even agree with it to an extent, but I think you're being a tad bit overboard here. I don't really see anything I'd construe as an insult. Repulsive might have been an unnecessarily harsh word to use there, I agree, but it's still an honest word that describes the opinions of a lot of guys. And while it's not the word I would have used to make that point, I still respect anybody who has the balls not to file down all the edges off their words to make sure they're nice and neat and nobody gets hurt because they're more worried about sparing feelings than they are about accuracy.
I'm so sick of people being made to feel guilty for being honest. There's a difference between being intolerant and not walking on egg shells to be politically correct. No offense, you know I respect you. I always enjoy reading your posts on here because they're always intelligent, eloquent, and well thought out. But your posts in this thread scream of PC police.
Personally, I don't think I could date a t-girl, but I'd be cool with being friends with one. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 7:12:16 PM | OP, to your original question i can say , in all honesty: “i have no idea”
But, being a Loud Mouth Opinionated Bastich, I would like to add to that simple answer.
These threads are filled with folks who search for “answers” to particular situations
and offer in their first posts, "The Answer". They then look for folks who will agree or disagree.
“ If i were younger, would this have happened?”
“If i had (a) bigger _______ ?
“If I hadn’t had sex so 1) quickly 2) slowly 3) badly 4) while dressed as a nun, would (s)he have ____?
“ If i wasn’t a Nice Guy .......”
“If i didn’t have 27 cats, wasn’t a devote Follower of Bob, or live with my Mother who is a Nudist,
would _______ have accepted my IM ? "
The OPs in these threads assume the cause of their “problem”, as you have.
Sometimes these “Answers” may be correct, or may be a contributing factor. Sometimes not.
There is always that weird , unpredictable, unknown factor.... The Other Person.
So even if the answer to THIS question with THIS person is what you suspected, who cares ?
There are indeed PLENTY of Fish . The search may not be short ( or entertaining), but I’ll wager there just might be one or two out there who will say:
“ Who gives a rats @ss about ______?! YOU are who i have been looking for !”
Good Luck with your search OP. | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:39:53 PM | Lisa, you are a real woman with obvious real feelings and they are being toyed with I am sorry to say. I have had a couple of women do this and it just lets me know what they are like before I waste to much time. Be grateful it happened so soon and move on to someone worthy of you. Good luck pretty one! | |
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| If I was a real woman
Posted: 7/8/2008 10:30:01 PM | You know, you're a pretty girl. You did your part, you asked him a couple of times, he didn't give you a straight answer. Don't beg for dates, let it go...I'm sure theres alot of other men that wouldn't mind dating you....
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