| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/14/2008 8:25:00 PM | News of her death have been greatly exaggerated !
Its just been on the news that she was on a family holiday in Europe. They set out on a day trip intending to visit the local markets and places of interest. This day out then turned into a 5 day ordeal which resulted in them being found in the middle of the Sahara desert. Its not yet known how or why they arrived there. But would point to the fact they allowed Maggie's son [Mark] to drive and her long suffering [alcohol -addled] husband Dennis to be co-pilot. It could be a case of misadventure.
Baroness Thatcher was believed to be in belligerent form during the ill-fated excursion. One bemused eye-witness,a local camel trader saw the vehicle zig zagging through the sand. He went onto say " It was almost comical and rather surreal... The old lady [Maggie] was trying to wrestle the steering wheel from the driver whilst screaming repetitively " This lady is not for turning " The driver was in tears and quite clearly disorientated . Whilst the old man slurred something about Rommel and sporadically breaking into a rendition of " Rule Brittani ". The family were unavailable for comment and were believed to be airlifted to safety and are staying with local Arms dealers & business associates of son Mark. It seems as If that planned state funeral is a long way off yet. I think she will live to see at least another 100 years yet.
I have a small begrudging respect for some of the qualities she possesses and her willingness to stand up and be counted in certain situations and certainly wouldn't wish her any ill-will. However this is far outweighed by some of the contemptuous policies she implemented and pursued. I remember growing up under her government and it was a merciless and divided nation which bred fat cats and greed. It also crushed the poor, under privileged and the weakest most vulnerable members of our society.
We had street riots stretching the length of the country from Bristol to Manchester.
Born of hopelessness and injustice by an alienated and disenchanted inner City Youth.
Her legacy will be judged by history. She was the first women British Prime Minister and sadly will ensure she'll be the last for some time. She left her party unelectable and the country stripped of its national industries and whole communities on the scrap heap. She was the nearest thing this country has had to a dictator /despot and would listen to nobody but herself.Backbone and courage are great qualities to have as a leader but a willingness to listen and a slice of humility and the sense and wisdom to realise you don't always know best are equally as important.
I noted that former Chilean President Augusto Pinochet passed away this week.
A good friend of the 'Iron Lady it would be fitting if they were buried in the same week.
Pinochet's passing won't be mourned by the people who suffered under his brutal regime. Thousands of people were killed by this tyrant and kept in power for 17 years ruling by fear and intimidation. Some would say they are well matched as friends and share a lot of the same characteristics and beliefs.  | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/15/2008 3:52:47 AM | Thatcher gets the blood flowing and veins in the neck bulging for some people consumed by hate.
Yet the same peeps like to think of themselves as caring, sharing 'socialists'
Just as everyone needs to love, everyone needs to hate as well.
When Thatcher pops her cloggs a new hate figure will be needed. As Pinochet has already departed there aren't too many left.
George Bush and Sepp Blatter are the only ones left? :-) | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/15/2008 5:34:59 AM |
Thatcher - Dead?
... just wishful thinking ....................... | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/15/2008 6:17:01 AM |
We would still be bending over for the unions and the UK's financial place in the World would also not exist
True, for the economy she did a lot of good.
But she did it at the expense of social and moral values.
Personally I'd much rather live in a slightly less economically successful country where people still have these values. | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/15/2008 8:44:13 AM |
Personally I'd much rather live in a slightly less economically successful country where people still have these values.
Parsonally I'd much rather just be rich!   | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 9:08:37 AM |
True, for the economy she did a lot of good.
But she did it at the expense of social and moral values.
Personally I'd much rather live in a slightly less economically successful country where people still have these values.
Don't worry Gordon Brown has been diligently working away such that the first part of your wish is pretty much achieved.... shame he has been so busy on that he has been unable to make any progress on the latter....... | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/21/2008 3:20:35 PM | it is,nt a lost now is it?
Thatcher destory this country
Just look at the poll tax and the coal mines. | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/21/2008 3:22:47 PM | So, she's getting a £3million state funeral when she goes.
If we all chip in, do we get to choose the date? | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 3:35:48 PM | This thread and its posts say so much about peoples thought processes.
I am no conservative.
In years to come thatch will be as much be remembered for what she did for women as she wanted to do for our country.
Right or wrong,what more can a person try to achieve in a lifetime of work? | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/21/2008 3:46:03 PM | Thatcher ended the '70s union nonsense (remember how 'good' British Leyland cars were?).
And together with Reagan she bankrupted the Russians and ended the Cold War.
And she's probably the only politician who would have bothered to retake the Falklands from a military dictatorship.
(This is all a bit like "What have the Romans done for us" from Monty Python) | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 3:47:17 PM | heard something on loose women today re state funeral but was doing housework at the time so didnt pay much attention. still nothing on tonights news or teletext.
her popularity in scotland can be summed up in 2 words - POLL TAX | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/21/2008 4:14:28 PM | her popularity in scotland can be summed up in 2 words - POLL TAX
And your countrys solidarity has resulted in your payback to England with your unfair influence over our parliment.
All free priscriptions,independance without influence from westminster,and a significant say in how England is ran from westminster.
You should all thank maggie in scotland!! | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/22/2008 12:17:53 AM | We need someone like her to tackle these knife crimes in London.
Seriously guys, if I was in charge though, I'd put every single freaking youth that has done a criminal offense in a permanent criminal list, put them to do hard labour and then send them home straight.
They are too soft with these people these days... "Kids and youth" my bloody arse, they very well know what they are doing. | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/22/2008 1:02:47 AM |
In years to come thatch will be as much be remembered for what she did for women as she wanted to do for our country.
Quite right GC, she will.
She shafted both! | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/29/2008 11:11:22 AM |
Many of the problems we face today are as a direct result of her and her policies.
Really?
Has no-one been in power these last 17 years?
State of the NHS - the tories fcuked it up so badly that even after ten years of this government they are still barely managing to tread water. But then, the people who mattered had access to private medical practice
Every Tory government is reliant upon working class votes to attain power, given that they constitute the greatest class. Therefore, it is in the Tories' interests to secure those votes by helping the working class.
And which Health Minister holds the record for NHS beds lost?
David Owen - a Labour politician!
Education - doesn't anyone remember the state of the schools? Buildings falling into disrepair, not enough money for books etc? I bloody do. But then, the people who mattered didn't use state education
Thatcher supported the grammar schools, which are the best way of educating the working class.
Housing - sell off the council houses and don't allow councils to build new ones. What a fantastic idea that was, really forward looking. But then, the people who mattered already owned their own non-ex-council home
So why wasn't that law repealled at some time since 1991?
Could it be that it's an excellent idea, encouraging people to be resonsible for their own property, rather than just allowing a council house to go to rack and ruin?
Convincing everyone that greed is good, you must own your own home in order to 'be someone.' Look at the mess that left people in last time the housing market crashed, and will again, I have no doubt.
Which means that housing crashes are unavoidable, and not her fault!
Feeding consumerism is never a good thing IMO but she did it and she did it good.
'Consumerism' fuels the economy, and improves the lives of most who are involved.
Would it be better if our PM tried to keep us all in poverty, like the current one?
I really enjoyed the 'night of the long knives' when she left No. 10.
So did I, because it ensured that the Tories would win the next election.
And what cost them the 1997 election?
Leaving the ERM.
Thatcher was totally against entering it, as were Blair and Brown.
When she shuffles off this mortal coil, I will breathe a sigh of relief, the world will be a safer and nicer place without her in it.
Really?
We might still have the Cold War, apartheid.... | |
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Posted: 7/29/2008 11:21:50 AM | | It was harsh under Thatcher but it was needed to reduce our national debt, it is a crime that under labour our debt has increased and all that suffering was for nowt. | |
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| Thatcher - Dead?
Posted: 7/29/2008 11:22:20 AM | The greatest prime minster this great country has ever had,read an weep brown an coward blair!  | |
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Posted: 7/29/2008 2:11:51 PM | | maggie brought inflation down browns totally lost it | |
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Posted: 7/29/2008 3:16:48 PM |
"She also made us believe we could be an empire again with the ridiculous war in the Falklands. Crowds cheered as the fleet sailed just as they did when they returned. Just like when we had an empire. The fact that so many people were killed unecessarily didn't matter becasue we won"
Didn't we fight the war because The Britush Faulklands were invaded by Argentina? Those brave men didn't die unneccessarily and I'm sure the bereaved families would agree.
What were we to do? Roll over and let any old country occupy our land? What message woud that send? Come and get us, we wont fight back?
I didn't agree with thatchers policies then, but she was a brave lady and is admired and respected as a leader all around the world. there has never been a leader like her since. | |
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