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Posted: 7/9/2008 11:54:37 AM | As much as I agree with the personal feeling that calls have over texts, most plans that are cheap only allow for calls to be placed after a certain hour or you burn up your minutes like no ones' business...
I use it during those hours to get my message across and then will call when it's free to do so.
I prefer to call but when I have unlimited texting - I'll go with that over paying 30 cents a minute to talk. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 2:46:49 PM | Thanks for the fix Senadin. I knew one of you techie types would come to our rescue!
Also interesting take on the cell phone issue. Nice to have the insiders weigh in.
I still think it's insane to charge me for something I can't control (incoming texts).
I am with Rogers (sorry Sen) and I do have a text messaging plan, so this doesn't really affect me (at least not yet). My question, however, is...Would a person still be charged for receiving a text message if they don't open it? | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 4:38:15 PM | Ok, so all this "how dare they charge me for things i cant control"
Like thats not happening everyday around here, your always paying for things you have no control of, you pay alot for vehicle insurance, because other people don't insure, drive like madmen or the like, well im paying for something i cant control, no matter how much of a old grandpa you drive, or crazy you drive, unless your in a accident, your both paying based on being idiot's! Theres tons of things people pay for that they cant control, i mean you need 35c to make a call from a payphone, so 20 cents to call someone on my cell might almost seem reasonable, just something to ponder!
I still say i think texts are generally a waste, i know people that text allot, and there just going to have to change their habits, we all want the price of gas to drop, but will everyone stop buying gas and park their car's, nope, so why should cell phones be any different. (i don't agree, but i totally see the cell companie's side of this, and like was said, texts and transfer's require bandwidth, people just asume theres an infinent amount of bandwidth but theres not, thats why there was the huge kerfufle over all tv going digital, there going to use what was "airial signal's" for bandwidth, and they still need more!) Supply and demand, theres not enough supply for the demand, so they need to free up some bandwidth, this is one way to clear alot of the useless text traffic they have! And im sorry i know cronic texter's, and at least 1/3-1/2 of the texts they send have no reason, except that they felt like texting or sending a joke.
I don't think this is going to affect nearly as many people nearly as much as they think, it just makes everyone nervous! I mean the reason i find it funny, is at least twice a year theres a email about hotmail is going to start charging if you don't sign this, i always delete it, and here from friends as soon as they signed it, they get lots of spam!
So in the big scheme of things, this isn't suprising, everyone wants a raise, and that means that you have to pass the charges to your customer's, phone companys have employees and where the customer's!
By all means get a petition, but im sure this whole thing will fizzle before it comes to fruition! | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 5:40:43 PM |
Would a person still be charged for receiving a text message if they don't open it?
Yes you would because the provider did have to route the text message to your phone. It doesnt matter what you do with the text message. | |
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Posted: 7/9/2008 9:39:13 PM | Wouldnt that be double charging? as the sender was already charged?
Yet another reason I and many others have fled telus.... for anything....
But hey... does telus at least pay you for sucking up sen? or were you one of the people on strike a little while ago telling us how evil and bad telus was? until you got what you wanted...
The future is very unfriendly... with telus... | |
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Posted: 7/12/2008 1:01:12 PM | Text Messages are total scam really useless....I mean really you have to hand it to the cell phone industry for creating turning a want into a need where one didn't really exist. 
I will lay money down that if any of you who text were to actually keep track of what you were texting about...You would find that you really didn't need to do it all...there was no emergency....no secret that could wait till later....the world would not have ended if you didn't text that message...In fact you could have made a phone call on that same cell phone...actually hear the person on the other end...talk with them or leave them a voice message......which would greatly express your feelings and emotions compared to a text message.
Ever over hear people on their cell phones? how many times have you heard people have long conversation about absolutely nothing of value? Now think of how much of that traffic is completely useless information.....lmao...and now they want you pay more because of it on top of their already high fees.....I should have taken out stock in these companies. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2008 1:24:29 PM | | I was recently meeting someone at Stampede and I can tell you a text was way easier to send than trying to get a call through in all that noise. I don't personally like too much texting, but in some cases it can be helpful. As for being charged for incoming. I'm with Rogers so no real worries there. I won't bother with the iphone or the like though. If I need the net, I'll use a laptop. | |
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Posted: 7/13/2008 4:28:39 PM | | gives me another reason to smash the damn thing.. lol i hate cell phones as it is.. for the amount of times you need one.. really. Its the dingbats and doorknobs who use them 24/7 while driving drinking a coffee smoking a cigarette with the kids screaming bloody murder in the back seat this is going to affect and I hope it nails them square between the eyes. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2008 4:23:48 AM | Why cell phones suck
1. Plans really do waste your money no matter what you do...you are either over or under your minutes.....either way you loose.
2. 24/7 work can contact you yet you are paid for that time that should have been you own.
3.Most talk and text you do really isn't important at all.
4.People still talk and drive.....or talk loudly with no concern for anyone else around them
I really don't want to hear about the random events of your day.
5. Health risks I think are real.....the cell companies will tell you there is no risk using the cell phone....interesting that they provide cell holsters that are shielded and in there small on usage tell the user to hold it a safe distance away from your face. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2008 8:08:52 AM | "Texting is a waste of time for people who are too dumb to actually talk and don't want to actually go on messenger because they can't spell!"
Dear Rodzores,
Calling the kettle black are we?
Who the hell are you to judge those whom enjoy using the convenience of texting Vs Calling. Are you so arrogant to imply all texters are dumb and lazy too? to accuse people of texting because they can't spell???? WOw, now talk about calling the kettle black. Not only do you have poor spelling skills, most can barely even comprehend what you've wrote based on your terrible grammar capabilities.
Lastly, being a so called "man" and using silly icons on here enables the douchery that lives on inside you... to blossom. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2008 9:25:35 AM | And here I thought this thread was about how silly it seems that we're now being charged for texts, not a bunch of people complaining about how stupid texting is and how they don't do it.
If you don't do it, why are you complaining? Don't try to dictate to others what's "stupid", and what's not. You don't do it, we're not saying you have to. I do think it's unfair that we're now being double charged for texting, and even moreso that people who don't text anyways are being charged for a service they so rarely use. It's definitely got potential for misuse and overcharging.
Seriously, if you're not going to stay on topic, and complain about the topic itself being pointless and stupid, start your own thread discussing just how stupid those of us who text are, then I'll know what threads to avoid.
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Posted: 7/14/2008 5:38:58 PM | The larger of the problem is these Data transfer charges at $12 a Mb nobody will be able to afford WIFI. for me, the simple phone is outdated. majority of comunications are with Skype, ventrillo or MSN luxury of Video seeing the person your talking to is nice when your away from home. Phone i do have i use for pictures or texting all data transfer.
What we need is free WIFI in our city's the advertising would more than pay the infastructure and service allot of other city's in the world are doing it. Instead we got 2 providers with a monopoly in Canada throttling Bandwidth so we can pay top dollar. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 11:05:56 AM | In the states they've been charging for incoming text messages for a while.
If you text, get on a plan. Know your plan. Surprise bills aren't very fun. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 12:47:51 PM | | Everyone continues to start off replies with "In the states". news flash, we don't live there. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 1:10:16 PM | | I used to live in Oregon, and spend quite a bit of time in the states. Canada quite often seems to follow suit with what the USA does.... no need for your "news flash" there buddy. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 1:44:21 PM | | In case you haven't noticed, we happen to share a continent with the US, and a lot of our business practices are following US trends. The point I think she's trying to make is that if we had comparative pricing to American cell phone prices, we wouldn't be complaining every time they add something like this in. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 5:02:32 PM | Weren't there charges for incoming text messages 5 years ago? I didn't text then, but I'm sure my friends complained about charges to receive unwanted messages. Then people b!tched and complained that they were being charged for receiving messages (something you can't control) and the charges were dropped?
I am on a text plan, but it would make more sense to me to double the sending charge (the person who makes the choice to use texting!) than to add a charge to receive. JMO | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 5:39:24 PM | Again, for all you folks who think you're gona get charged double....
If you have a text plan with unlimited texting. YOU WILL NOT....
I repeat NOT be charged for incoming sms. If your friends dont have plans, then well....they should get one! Especially if they text a fair bit!
Frankly are people that stupid that they cant figure out that if you're paying 40$ a month for your text messages or more alone that you would be better served with a plan of some sort?
This isnt just Telus, all carriers have unlimited plan that will cover your needs.
Heck Telus if you get some spam msgs, all you gota do is text them and they will credit you no questions asked, you dont even have to call them!
So once more time for the folks who think they will be charged double, no you will not if you have a plan of some sort. Anyhow to say you would be charged double is not even a correct term. Not really double since incoming and sending are two different functions.
To the guy who talk about wifi....get your own topic if you want to talk about Wifi.... We all know you got shafted due to your ignorance last time you got an aircard....cry on your own thread were i will laugh at your lack of common sense!
To the guy who say rate plans cant be suited to your needs, Wrong ! ! Btw, time for you to get a new tin foil hat, because frankly you need a new one! Your old one has a huge ***FAIL*** written on it. Cells dont give cancer and no, holster arent made out of tin, lead, or even kryptonite! Last time i check holsters, they are made out of perfectly fine plastic or pleather! Your knowledge is astounding ...ohh great one!
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Btw , for the folks who think the US is SO much better rate plan wise, google the following. Verizon Data plans.
The first few search you will generate will give you an idea of the rate plans. Starting at 80$ that's barebones.....
Google the same thing with Telus and Bell and you will have a much more affordable pricing. Rogers is a tad more.
Dont take my words for it, do your homework.....
A lot of the hoopla being generated is just that.... DRAMA! It isnt has bad as they want you to think! Heck there was a promo that Telus offered for 15$ a month for unlimited data! Promo is over btw.....but still! That's a WHOLE LOT cheaper than the US carriers can offer.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:02:28 PM | Im not going to be charged, but i would easily turn off incoming texts if it meant no charges, and i personally wouldn't look back, if texting works for you, im glad, heres a blue ribbon, you got a text plan, and who cares about what wont affect you! This thread is hilarious, if texting wasn't a pointless waste of time usually, (i agree some texts are important, and can be convenient, but all those teenagers need to know everything that happens every 20 seconds or they will die?)
Then in here so many people wasting time and getting all worked up because someone else doesn't like text's!
And be careful if you make a smartass comment and you don't add something about a gerbil you better watch out, youll get a email from idontknowshit telling you how your the worst person ever, but i laugh at all that wasted emotion, i just think its funny im calling the kettle black, | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:57:23 PM | | Bell does not offer unlimited and if you read your contract don't matter what provider your with they can change your contract at any time. Reason there is so much debate about the iphone rogers was going to take away the unlimited also and will soon. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 7:04:43 AM | "And be careful if you make a smartass comment and you don't add something about a gerbil you better watch out, youll get a email from idontknowshit telling you how your the worst person ever, but i laugh at all that wasted emotion, i just think its funny im calling the kettle black,"
What the heck did you just write? That whole sentence made no sense. Every time i read your post i feel as though pulling my hair out would be an easier time.
From this day forth, Hot Rod can only reply in the kiddie section on some other site. Perhaps Sesame Street has a forum in which he can communicate with others of his calibre. I just feel his important thoughts and opinions might be wasted on here due. Most can't understand a 3 year olds writing. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 8:04:51 AM |
Bell does not offer unlimited
Oh really? So this part on my plan that says Unlimited Incoming and Unlimited Outgoing texts is a lie? Good to know.
I spoke with someone at Bell yesterday to ask more specifically about this, and they did in fact assure me that unlimited means unlimited both incoming and outgoing, but it's the people without plans or with limited plans that are going to be hit hardest by this new change. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 8:44:08 AM | Uber,
Watch bell will do what it always does.
Use too much of the service and they will cancel it.
They did it to me and others with UNLIMITED calling in ontario.
They will find a way to screw texters | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 10:20:46 AM | | went through the same thing Mommy i was suspended for excesive use. Good thing, they did wave the charges sent out a yellow envelope and allowed me to return the phone at no cost for breaking the contract. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 10:41:38 AM | Everyone continues to start off replies with "In the states". news flash, we don't live there.
News Flash~~~ We may as well be part of the states...we follow their lead in almost everyway.....economically.....in war....media....even or current right wing government isn't very different from that of the states.....They are trying to pass bills similar to those in the state (see bill c-51 and bill-c61) We sell a great deal of our resources to the states as a trading stocks......Oil...Energy...Water....Food...Wood etc. .....Points of our boarder are still completely undefined or protected (lol) there are areas you can just walk right into each country and never even a boarder patrol......So I'd we are very near to being "in the states" | |
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