Apparently Obama is backing a two billion$$$ loan(more by some reports)to Brazil so that they can explore and do offshore drilling

The loan is through a Bank.... The loans are to purchase US built equipment and Services... Jobs... The loan is monitored by the BANK...

Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling Too bad it's not in U.S. waters You read that headline correctly. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil. The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574346610120524166.html

White House says 'drill, baby, drill' - in Brazil An energy analyst says he cannot understand why the Obama administration is borrowing money to lend money to Brazil so it can conduct oil drilling off its eastern coast, yet will not support oil drilling in American waters. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=653156

But it still doesn’t allow the U.S. to explore in Alaska or along the East and West Coasts, which could be our equivalent of the Tupi oil fields, which are set to make Brazil a leading oil exporter. Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he won’t allow at home. http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/18/good-news-obama-backs-off-shore-drilling/

If we are buying from Brazil we are still sending our dollars out of the country making our own economy slow.

I honestly don't know, but if Brazil can start pumping in 2 years surely we can too? That's not to say that we don't need to start investing in and researching alternative fuels as the oil can't last forever, but I think we could certainly get a lot more oil to the marketplace than we are right now, and it looks like in a reasonable amount of time. Too bad nobody's going to make the oil companies do it, anyway. They're already shutting down some of their existing platforms. Hell, they may be the ones putting the "nothing for 10 years" thing out there.

Wind will be useful but about as satisfying as kissing your sister.

Nuclear is even more foolish

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cal-oil24-2009sep24,0,3884900.story

Oxy oil discovery could spark new interest in California's energy potential
The biggest find in the state in 35 years, somewhere in Kern County,

The Westwood company revealed in July that it had found the equivalent of 150 million to 250 million barrels of oil and natural gas............

Colorado Study Links Methane in Water to Drilling
by Abrahm Lustgarten, ProPublica - April 22, 2009 6:00 am EDT

Jesse Ellsworth thought something was wrong with his water when it began to smell funny and popped out of his faucet in bursts. Then, in February, the Fort Lupton resident launched an experiment: he flipped on the kitchen tap and took a cigarette lighter to the stream. As flint sparked steel, the water lit on fire like a torch.

Ellsworth is one of at least 29 residents in small farming communities northeast of Denver who have asked either the energy companies or the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission to test for natural gas in their water wells.

Now the commission is trying to figure out how the gas got there. Are some of Weld County's 13,957 gas wells leaking methane into drinking water? Or is methane seeping into the water naturally, as it has done from time to time over the years?

http://www.propublica.org/feature/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422

http://talesfromtherustbelt.blogspot.com/2009/09/solar-panel-plant-in-northeast-ohio.html

Mike Splinter, the CEO of Applied Materials, a company that makes the machines that make solar panels. The Silicon Valley company has built 14 solar panel manufacturing plants in the last two years but none of them are in America.

The problem is that the United States lacks the advantages countries like Germany and China have implemented, namely "certainty of price, connectivity and regulation on a national basis".

Nuclear is even more foolish... the moment you are so arrogant as to think you can completely protect something from mother nature, mother nature raises her head and bites you square in the ass. Do you realize that if an earthquake were to take place and crack Indian Point, the entire metropolitan area of New York would be uninhabitable for about 50,000 years? Think about that... not a man made mistake... just a simple act of nature... 50 THOUSAND years.

Yeah that nuclear waste stuff. BAD NEWS!

The whole nuclear waste arguement against the use of nuclear power is fueled (pun intented) by unwarrented fear based on ignorance.

PARIS (AP) - Greenpeace said nuclear waste from a storage facility is seeping into groundwater in the Champagne region of France and threatening vineyards that produce the sparkling wine.

The environmental group presented the French Senate on Tuesday with a report saying that groundwater samples 6 miles from champagne vineyards showed contamination from a nuclear waste facility in Soulaines.

The group also took samples from near the other major nuclear waste site in France - the Manche region on the English Channel - that they said contained radioactivity levels 170 times higher than European legislation allows.

The French Senate is to debate a bill this week that calls for storing the country's most dangerous nuclear waste deep underground in sealed containers. Other countries, including the United States, already bury nuclear waste.

What are you like from my grandfathers age? Oh yeah sorry you are.

So let me get this straight here we are bright enough to go into space, make nifty telescopes that let us see other galaxies, go to the moon

Guess what times are changing and the youth are giving you the finger.

Be better to just put solar on all the houses with a south facing view of the sun, rock the geothermal, etc etc.

A small number of people whom act like gangsters are getting rich off this nonsense and making sure no one does anything to break their little game up.

I always wonder at the hostility from so many on the left for older people.

If I were to go solar power (just to cover the electricity I already use) it would cost 20 to 30K. If I were to have an electric car my electricity consumption would probably be fifty times what it is now (the ammount of electricity used to power a 60 hp motor even for 5 hours a week is phenonomal compared to a refrigerator or microwave).

First I am not from the left nor the right. I belong to no political parties thanks.

A small number of people whom act like gangsters are getting rich off this nonsense and making sure no one does anything to break their little game up.

extreme right wing dictators

Secondly, the term "rightwing dictator" is an oxymoron. In countries with dictators the dictator is the government.... so if all industry is controlled by the dictator then it is government controlled. It has been the work of spin doctors to make people believe that government controlled industry is something to be considered rightwing.

Main Entry: dic·ta·tor
Pronunciation: \ˈdik-ˌtā-tər, dik-ˈ\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from dictare
Date: 14th century

1 a : a person granted absolute emergency power; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome b : one holding complete autocratic control c : one ruling absolutely and often oppressively
2 : one that dictates

It is you whom is trying to spin it so that there can only be a such thing as a "left wing" dictator.

I just look at the facts that they are not even ashamed of. They boast about this shit. It goes against everything this nation was founded on.

I am not here talking about miles per gallon. If you wish to talk about that tell me why my 1968 Volkswagen Bug gets 28-30 mpg but you are talking about 20 for today's cars. Since you brought it up.