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 namrael

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 8/29/2008 8:54:26 PM

this is not a trust issue at all. It's about boundaries in a relationship. This far exceed those boundaries. I'm sick of hearing that a guy is insecure, possesive and what have you because he sets boundaries in a relationship. In fact something like this would make me really wonder how commited she is. No guy in his right mind would invite an old girlfriend to stay with him when he's engaged it's just not respectful of the relationship.


There's a difference between having agreed-upon boundaries within a relationship, and attempting to unilaterally dictate a boundary to one's adult partner.

Personally? I'd refuse to allow someone to dictate to me like this. I'd not accept someone telling me that a good friend of mine who IS an ex couldn't stay with me. If a partner doesn't trust me, that's a much bigger issue than my friendship with any man. No one tries to tell me who I can be friends with and under what terms. If someone I'm dating doesn't believe I can spend the night under the same roof as a man and be faithful to him, what that means in practice is more likely that HE would be incapable of such a thing.

And yes, I would be okay with a partner having an old girlfriend stay with him, because if I didn't trust a partner then I wouldn't stay with him in the first place. In this particular scenario, the friend isn't even an old boyfriend, but just a friend who happens to be male. I fail utterly to see why this should be problematic.
 jerwesam1

Joined: 8/16/2008
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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:24:52 PM
A good looking women and a good looking man ( unless he is gay)can not be "Just Friends" with out some kind of sexual attraction. I am very experienced at this. I have been through it myself and some of my closest friends have to. I cant remember how many times my ex said "we are just friends" later finding out what "friendship" ment. The man says "she a good friend" but what he is really thinking is "man I bet I can make her scream". It cant happen......So wanna be friends?
 MSII

Joined: 8/20/2008
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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:58:59 PM
THIS is why he wont have it.
http://laddertheory.com/
Why are you wanting to do something that is offending and upsetting him?
Your male friend WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU, I dont care if you throw yourself naked on him and he doesnt have sex with you, HE STILL WANTS TO.

From the site:
Sally: We are just going to be friends, OK?
Harry: Great, friends. It's the best thing...You realize, of course, that we can never be friends.
Sally: Why not?
Harry: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape, or form - is that men and women can't be friends, because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry: No, you don't.
Sally: Yes, I do.
Harry: No, you don't.
Sally: Yes, I do.
Harry: You only think you do.
Sally: You're saying I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry: No, what I'm saying is they all want to have sex with you.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally: So you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive.
Harry: No, you pretty much want to nail them, too.
Sally: What if they don't want to have sex with you?
Harry: Doesn't matter, because the sex thing is already out there, so the friendship is ultimately doomed, and that is the end of the story.

Sounds like you dont really care what he thinks, anyways...so why are you asking? Just do it. If this is something you need so badly, then dump your boyfriend and get someone who will accept it.

I was in a similar situation, but my friend who is a girl came from Japan, and she stayed with me for financial reasons (She was here 2 months, hotel would make that impossible)
I made activities with my girlfriend AND my friend. We had a great time. She even colored my JP friend's hair.
 forums1

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Posted: 8/30/2008 7:12:16 AM

Sounds like you dont really care what he thinks, anyways...so why are you asking? Just do it.


Pretty much sums it up for me. If its really what you want to do, and you don't give a crap about what he thinks, then go ahead. If your 'fiancee' dumps you, and it ends your relationship, so be it, since obviously that is of a lower priority to you than your friend.

And, then after the fact you can decide if it was the right thing to do, or whether you screwed up big time, and it'll be a great learning experience for your next relationship as to where you should have your priorities.
 namrael

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Posted: 8/30/2008 7:38:16 AM
1) Ladder theory is absolutely and completely unscientific. Personally, I think it's a load of crap, but regardless, it's in no way scientifically supported.

2) Even if her friend would be interested in sex with her, so what? If she isn't interested in having sex with him and is committed to her relationship, does it matter whether he would if there were mutual interest? Why is that problematic as long as she's remaining faithful to her relationship?

3) I have many male friends with whom I am really and actually platonic. I suppose it's possible that some of them might be interested in sleeping with me, but they know we are platonic friends, so I don't really care if they do; there isn't that vibe with them because we know where we stand. Unless your friends are incapable of respecting your boundaries, I don't see why that would interfere with a friendship even if it were the case. Further, I hardly think a movie quote serves as support for any particular argument.

4) Just because this is an issue for the OP--as it clearly would be for many posters here--doesn't mean by any stretch that she "doesn't care" what her fiance does. Clearly this is a concern to her, so I don't know why a lot of people seem to equate difference of opinion with not caring what his is.
 m_church

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Posted: 8/30/2008 9:46:35 AM

I fail utterly to see why this should be problematic.

That's because you're naive...


there isn't that vibe with them because we know where we stand. Unless your friends are incapable of respecting your boundaries, I don't see why that would interfere with a friendship even if it were the case.

Are you sure there isn't that 'vibe' or are you just unaware of it...? Well, the 'friends' are often just waiting for an opportunity...


I have many male friends with whom I am really and actually platonic. I suppose it's possible that some of them might be interested in sleeping with me, but they know we are platonic friends, so I don't really care if they do

Ok... If they are 'really and actually platonic', then they would NOT be interested in sleeping with you... You have just contradicted yourself...
If you know they are interested in more, but continue to think of them as just platonic you're being naive again...
Women think of male friends in the context of "I don't want to sleep with him"
Men think of women friends in the context of "She doesn't want to sleep with me ---YET!"
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 8/30/2008 11:33:34 AM
(namrael) Personally? I'd refuse to allow someone to dictate to me like this.


I agree totally.


I'd not accept someone telling me that a good friend of mine who IS an ex couldn't stay with me.


If you don't want to be dictated TO, you shouldn't imagine that you can do the dictating, as in "My exes are my friends, so deal with it!" There are enough single people, of both sexes, who don't try to pull this manipulative crap on their CURRENT SOs, that there's no excuse to put up with it.


If a partner doesn't trust me, that's a much bigger issue than my friendship with any man.


If your partner doesn't trust you, then maybe youse two just shouldn't be together, instead of you trying to wield the "trust" club.


No one tries to tell me who I can be friends with and under what terms. If someone I'm dating doesn't believe I can spend the night under the same roof as a man and be faithful to him, what that means in practice is more likely that HE would be incapable of such a thing.


Doesn't necessarily mean any such thing. More than likely, it means he just doesn't like it. I know, I know, projection can be such fun, but people really should do less of it.

There's a name for women who try to force men to act in accord with THEIR feelings -- single.

Arlö
 namrael

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Posted: 8/30/2008 12:24:59 PM


I fail utterly to see why this should be problematic.


That's because you're naive...


I'm actually not naive at all. In my relationships, my partners and I have trusted each other and respected that trust by honoring our relationship agreements. Yes, sometimes people's trust is broken when they do this, and someday that may well happen to me, but I'd much rather risk that hurt than go through life unable to trust a partner, and I'd like to date someone who feels similarly.



there isn't that vibe with them because we know where we stand. Unless your friends are incapable of respecting your boundaries, I don't see why that would interfere with a friendship even if it were the case.


Are you sure there isn't that 'vibe' or are you just unaware of it...? Well, the 'friends' are often just waiting for an opportunity...


I'm friends with people who respect that I am able to make up my own mind and would tell them if I were interested. Anyone who doesn't demonstrate that respect for me doesn't stay my friend for long.

I've had friends where I've gotten the distinct impression that there were ulterior motives involved. This makes me uncomfortable around them, and I don't continue to spend time with them. Problem solved. Anyone who's my friend because they're waiting for an opportunity isn't worthy of my friendship, and many of my platonic male friends have spanned the process of our dating other people, so I really don't think that's the reason for the friendship.



I have many male friends with whom I am really and actually platonic. I suppose it's possible that some of them might be interested in sleeping with me, but they know we are platonic friends, so I don't really care if they do


Ok... If they are 'really and actually platonic', then they would NOT be interested in sleeping with you... You have just contradicted yourself...
If you know they are interested in more, but continue to think of them as just platonic you're being naive again...
Women think of male friends in the context of "I don't want to sleep with him"
Men think of women friends in the context of "She doesn't want to sleep with me ---YET!"


It wasn't a direct contradiction so much as an admission that I can't know 100% what's going on in their heads.

Here's the thing: I've always liked very much to know where I stand with people, and I extend the same courtesy to them. If a male friend expresses interest in me and I don't share that interest, I will say so in no uncertain terms. I'm very good at expressing myself, and my friends know this; if I were to be interested in a male friend of mine, I would make that interest clear, and they know this, too. I'm actually pretty good at sensing romantic/sexual interest, so I'm pretty sure I have a pretty good handle on where my platonic friends and I stand.
 namrael

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Posted: 8/30/2008 12:37:35 PM


(namrael) Personally? I'd refuse to allow someone to dictate to me like this.


I agree totally.





I'd not accept someone telling me that a good friend of mine who IS an ex couldn't stay with me.


If you don't want to be dictated TO, you shouldn't imagine that you can do the dictating, as in "My exes are my friends, so deal with it!" There are enough single people, of both sexes, who don't try to pull this manipulative crap on their CURRENT SOs, that there's no excuse to put up with it.


I'm curious as to why you find this manipulative. For me, this is one of my deal-breakers, and something I'm up-front about from the beginning with a new partner. One of my best friends is an ex-boyfriend of mine who lives in another state, and we care deeply about each other. I'm not about to end a close and healthy friendship with someone I care about and who has been nothing but good to me, just because we used to date. I wouldn't end any friendship at the request of an SO, and I don't see why this is any different simply because the friendship in question is with an ex.



If a partner doesn't trust me, that's a much bigger issue than my friendship with any man.


If your partner doesn't trust you, then maybe youse two just shouldn't be together, instead of you trying to wield the "trust" club.


"Trust" club? I don't understand why assuming that I should have my partner's trust is problematic. If I felt I couldn't trust a partner, that would be a huge issue to me, and something we would either discuss or something over which I would end a relationship. I wouldn't settle with policing a partner's activities, and I don't understand why someone who wouldn't be able to trust a partner with a friend would be in such a relationship.



No one tries to tell me who I can be friends with and under what terms. If someone I'm dating doesn't believe I can spend the night under the same roof as a man and be faithful to him, what that means in practice is more likely that HE would be incapable of such a thing.


Doesn't necessarily mean any such thing. More than likely, it means he just doesn't like it. I know, I know, projection can be such fun, but people really should do less of it.


So what other reason could there be for it, assuming he wasn't projecting in this instance?

I've had friend who've cheated on their SOs. These are invariably the most jealous people I know in their own relationships, which is why I tend to look on extreme jealousy as a symptom of potential infidelity in a partner. Conversely, the most trusting people I know are also the ones most worthy of placing trust in. In my experience, people betray their own trustworthiness, or lack thereof, in their attitudes toward their partners.


There's a name for women who try to force men to act in accord with THEIR feelings -- single.


I'm not forcing anyone's actions, or attempting to. There are some circumstances in which I refuse to be dictated to and will act according to my own conscience and priorities, and friendships are priorities to me. If someone I'm dating has an issue with that, then I'd rather find someone more compatible. I don't want to change anyone's priorities here; I want to date someone who feels similarly to me in this area. So far, this may narrow my field a bit, but while the wait might be longer between partners, it tends to involve a much higher caliber of relationship. I'd rather be single than date someone I feel doesn't trust me.
 Erik da Viking

Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:39:03 AM

(Arlö) If you don't want to be dictated TO, you shouldn't imagine that you can do the dictating, as in "My exes are my friends, so deal with it!" There are enough single people, of both sexes, who don't try to pull this manipulative crap on their CURRENT SOs, that there's no excuse to put up with it.

(namrael) I'm curious as to why you find this manipulative.


*shrug* It's forcing someone to confront a situation that they may rather not.


(namrael) For me, this is one of my deal-breakers, and something I'm up-front about from the beginning with a new partner.


I appreciate forthrightness in a person.


(namrael) I wouldn't end any friendship at the request of an SO, and I don't see why this is any different simply because the friendship in question is with an ex.


Because people are more important than principles. Anyone who tells me (or themselves) that they NEVER fudge on a principle for the right person... well, they're lying.


(Arlö) Doesn't necessarily mean any such thing. More than likely, it means he just doesn't like it. I know, I know, projection can be such fun, but people really should do less of it.

(namrael) So what other reason could there be for it, assuming he wasn't projecting in this instance?


Re-read above. He may just not like being forced to confront a situation he's not comfortable with. I know, I know, stepping out of my comfort zone is when I grow, but I wanna do my growing at my pace, not be told by someone else when I have to "grow".

Anyway, this is off-topic to the OP, which was: she wants her male friend to stay over, and her fiancé has reservations. You don't do that sorta thing in the engagement stage: you do it in the casual dating stage, or married-for-20-years stage.

Arlö
 indehills

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 4:48:38 AM

No guy in his right mind would invite an old girlfriend to stay with him when he's engaged it's just not respectful of the relationship.

Absolutely. If a woman was posting in here that she was upset because her fiance (or boyfriend for that matter) insisted on having another woman spend the weekend with him, every woman in here would tell her that its a red flag and he's sleeping with her. NO woman would tell another woman "oh, he wants another woman to stay a few days, sure, what's wrong with that?". They would say he's disrespecting the girlfriend by doing this, he obviously intends to cheat on her, and she needs to get rid of him. But since it's a woman who wants to have a guy over, all of a sudden the boyfriend is trying to be controlling and insecure because he has a problem with it.
 namrael

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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:37:08 AM


namrael) I wouldn't end any friendship at the request of an SO, and I don't see why this is any different simply because the friendship in question is with an ex.


Because people are more important than principles. Anyone who tells me (or themselves) that they NEVER fudge on a principle for the right person... well, they're lying.


But why don't my friends fall into that "people are more important than principles" category as well? I love my friends, and that's a big part of why I wouldn't end a friendship with someone at an SO's request. An SO asking that seems to be forgetting that the friendship does involve actual people.

I also tink someone asking me to fudge on a principle for them is generally unlikely to be the right person.


Re-read above. He may just not like being forced to confront a situation he's not comfortable with. I know, I know, stepping out of my comfort zone is when I grow, but I wanna do my growing at my pace, not be told by someone else when I have to "grow".


That makes sense; on the other hand, there are also potential compromises here. A conversation I have with an SO on this matter would involve some sort of, "I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable; what can we do to increase your comfort with the situation?" You can schedule calls if necessary, makes sure everyone meets, etc. There are solutions beyond either having a friend stay, or not. SItting down together and talking about what might be an acceptable compromise is probably a better way to go than either person putting their foot down off the bat.


Anyway, this is off-topic to the OP, which was: she wants her male friend to stay over, and her fiancé has reservations. You don't do that sorta thing in the engagement stage: you do it in the casual dating stage, or married-for-20-years stage.


Why not? Jealousy may be uncomfortable, but if there's trust there, they'll manage. And again, there may be compromises available; they both need to sit down and be honest and open with each other and discuss the concerns from both sides without getting overly defensive.
 firefighter4tlc

Joined: 8/26/2008
Msg: 238
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:48:46 AM
well Holly,
i can see where he's coming from, lets just hope he's so crazy about you that it's the guy he's really cautious of and not that he is one of those guys who is not going to let you out on a girlie night when you're hitched.......i've met a lot of folks with these probs so think about it before you leap - what type is he ???

Rob x
 nick prince

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 7:58:08 AM
Re the Opost

IMO, the cornerstone issue here is why two people who are engaged do not live together. Maybe that is a source of a problem that the friend's visit brings to the surface, maybe!
 1purplehaze

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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:13:07 AM
I think you would understand his position if the situation was reversed.

I'm thinking that there may be something going on with the feelings. I think you friend will also understand that you are now "engaged" and he needs to get what that means and you should take a refresher course if you don't.
 toots1981

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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:29:20 AM
It seems prettvious from the guys replies that a lot of them see women as their posessions. If I had a BF/fiance and he tried to control who I saw/visited my flat I would tell him to deal with it. Most of my friends are male and any potential BF needs to understand that. Your Fiance should trust you. Even IF a male friend had feelings it doesn;t mean you do. Or that he would try anything.

I would definitely tell your fiance to deal with it otherwise I think you're setting a precedent
 Raging Heart-on

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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:34:01 AM
I was going to give some GREAT advice but since the OP hasn't been on this thread since July 14 I won't bother.

Cheers !
 Erik da Viking

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Posted: 9/2/2008 9:11:27 AM
(Arlö) Because people are more important than principles. Anyone who tells me (or themselves) that they NEVER fudge on a principle for the right person... well, they're lying.

(namrael) But why don't my friends fall into that "people are more important than principles" category as well?


Sometimes you can't have both things that you want, but you have to choose one over another.


I love my friends, and that's a big part of why I wouldn't end a friendship with someone at an SO's request.


Hey! Quit pokin' me with your nose, Pinocchio!

You mean, you wouldn't end a friendship if MOST SOs requested it. The truth'll set you free...



An SO asking that seems to be forgetting that the friendship does involve actual people.


An SO is ALSO an "actual person". Anyway, the OP's B/F is not asking her to end a friendship, but to not have a male friend sleep over. Big difference. That a lot of people can't see that the two situations are not identical may explain, in part, why there are so many single people these days.


A conversation I have with an SO on this matter would involve some sort of, "I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable; what can we do to increase your comfort with the situation?"


And... what if your hypothetical SO's response was, "I'd feel comfortable if you didn't do this in the first place!" What'd be your answer to THAT, Count Bernadotte? (*nyah*)

(Arlö) Anyway, this is off-topic to the OP, which was: she wants her male friend to stay over, and her fiancé has reservations. You don't do that sorta thing in the engagement stage: you do it in the casual dating stage, or married-for-20-years stage.

(namrael) Why not? Jealousy may be uncomfortable, but if there's trust there, they'll manage. And again, there may be compromises available; they both need to sit down and be honest and open with each other and discuss the concerns from both sides without getting overly defensive.


Because you don't test something before it's ready to take the strain... unless you enjoy seeing a relationship crash-and-burn.

"Compromise" is a too-often used word. Sometimes, you SHOULD compromise, but sometimes you have to put your foot down and say "No!" If I have a hundred bucks in my wallet, and a mugger wants all of it, and I don't feel like giving him any of it, should we compromise, and I give him fifty dollars? Of course not. "Compromise" is not ALWAYS the solution, you know.

Arlö
 Fight Naked

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Posted: 9/2/2008 9:24:10 AM
Think of it this way. You get to have your male friend spend a couple of nights with you and Your boyfriend gets to have a girl spend a couple of nights with him. Thats fair...

Go get a nanny cam and let your boyfriend watch you sleep... alonne.
 namrael

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Posted: 9/2/2008 9:32:18 AM

Sometimes you can't have both things that you want, but you have to choose one over another.


Whoever gave me the ultimatum would be gone, in that case.



I love my friends, and that's a big part of why I wouldn't end a friendship with someone at an SO's request.


Hey! Quit pokin' me with your nose, Pinocchio!

You mean, you wouldn't end a friendship if MOST SOs requested it. The truth'll set you free...


No, I wouldn't end the friendship, period. It would be different if there were a friendship that my SO thought was damaging to me and he voiced his concerns; but even then, it would be because I agreed with those concerns, not simply because he asked.

If I were to end a good, healthy, supportive friendship at the request of an SO, I would be hihgly resentful, which would not make for a healthy relationship; this is part of why I wouldn't do it. Also, what sort of a friend would I be if I ended a friendship that way? My friends have been with me for a while, and any SO who tried to get between us wouldn't be worth keeping around. I'd choose a good friend over a crappy ultimatum-giving SO any day.


An SO is ALSO an "actual person". Anyway, the OP's B/F is not asking her to end a friendship, but to not have a male friend sleep over. Big difference. That a lot of people can't see that the two situations are not identical may explain, in part, why there are so many single people these days.


I deal poorly with a lack of trust in my relationships. You may interpret this situation differently, but that's my take on it, and I would no be okay with someone who couldn't handle my being in the same house overnight with a male friend. I've had male roommates before as well; would there be a similar issue in that case? Would my SO really believe me to be such a weak person that I couldn't say no to someone and would break a relationship agreement because of it? I would find this situation highly offensive, personally, and it would be indicative to me that the SO in question was too jealous and possessive for me to be happy with him on a long-term basis.



A conversation I have with an SO on this matter would involve some sort of, "I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable; what can we do to increase your comfort with the situation?"


And... what if your hypothetical SO's response was, "I'd feel comfortable if you didn't do this in the first place!" What'd be your answer to THAT, Count Bernadotte? (*nyah*)


That I was willing to work out a compromise, but that my friendships are important to me and I consider offering a friend a place to crash while he's visiting as an important part of that friendship. This is also a reason I will be up-front about these kinds of things in the first place. People who are uncomfortable with my friendship with me ex, or his potentially visiting next summer, or my other myriad friendships with men, are unlikely to be compatible with me. I prefer to try to avoid this type of situation in the first place.


Because you don't test something before it's ready to take the strain... unless you enjoy seeing a relationship crash-and-burn.

"Compromise" is a too-often used word. Sometimes, you SHOULD compromise, but sometimes you have to put your foot down and say "No!" If I have a hundred bucks in my wallet, and a mugger wants all of it, and I don't feel like giving him any of it, should we compromise, and I give him fifty dollars? Of course not. "Compromise" is not ALWAYS the solution, you know.


So how do you know whether it's a solid relationship before marriage? If you're solid enough to be engaged, shouldn't that relationship ALREADY be strong enough to "take the strain"?

In this situation, I would see an unwillingness to talk about a workable compromise as a red flag. Were I in the OP's shoes, this would almost certainly be the beginning of the end for me in that relationship. Other people have other values, but I would not be willing to compromise a friendship for a partner who was unwilling to work out a compromise with me.
 Erik da Viking

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Posted: 9/2/2008 10:01:15 AM

(namrael) I deal poorly with a lack of trust in my relationships. You may interpret this situation differently, but that's my take on it, and I would no be okay with someone who couldn't handle my being in the same house overnight with a male friend. I've had male roommates before as well; would there be a similar issue in that case? Would my SO really believe me to be such a weak person that I couldn't say no to someone and would break a relationship agreement because of it?


I wonder how many extra-marital affairs began with one partner declaring that they'd NEVER sleep around. I guess I must be dreaming, then, and fooling around outside of committed relationships NEVER happens.

Kinda funny that you insist on seeing this as a "trust" thing. I wonder why.


So how do you know whether it's a solid relationship before marriage? If you're solid enough to be engaged, shouldn't that relationship ALREADY be strong enough to "take the strain"?


In much the same way that you don't feed a baby, adult food.

I may not know everything about everything, but that doesn't mean that I'm totally bereft of knowledge. I know that there are some things that you just don't do... like,. subject an engagement to the type of strain that it wouldn't be suited to.


(namrael) A conversation I have with an SO on this matter would involve some sort of, "I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable; what can we do to increase your comfort with the situation?"

(Arlö) And... what if your hypothetical SO's response was, "I'd feel comfortable if you didn't do this in the first place!" What'd be your answer to THAT, Count Bernadotte? (*nyah*)

(namrael) That I was willing to work out a compromise...


Your "compromise" amounts to you saying, "I'm having this guy over regardless of what you ultimately say; how can we make you less uncomfortable (and more importantly, less angry with ME) with your figurative emasculation?"


In this situation, I would see an unwillingness to talk about a workable compromise as a red flag.


Again, maybe in this case, the "workable compromise" is you not flaunting your Significant Other's wishes, and actually accomodating him.

Ultimately, who CARES if it stems from "insecurity", or what-not? Your SO is the one you (hopefully) want to spend the rest of your life with -- maybe you should consider cutting him a little slack, instead of busting his b@ll$ from the git-go.

Arlö
 dlopez3066

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 10:23:25 AM
I agree totally. It's always a double standard with women. Ive been down this road before, my ex gf let a friend stay with her a while while his house was being built. She never invited me to visit or meet the "friend" while he was there. I told her that I was uncomfortable with the situation and she lashed out at me calling me "insecure, possessive, etc". She even told mutual friends that I was acting irrational and insecure. The thing is I never said no to it and stuck around through this nightmare. Well come to find out they used to be an item. She even accidently called me by his name a few times and I was the "crazy one". It's not worth it. If something makes the other person uncomortable, respect that and fix it. If one person refuses to fix it, run like hell. My situation was a year ago and she still calls me to get back. Too little too late.
 english lass

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 11:02:41 AM
maybe your friend could stay over at your fiancees?
 Fight Naked

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 11:12:13 AM
There is such a thing as a real friend. And guess what folks........if she were inclined to cheat it could happen even if he stayed in a hotel. If he has been a real FRIEND for a long time I don't see the issue. Make sure the boyfriend calls anytime and girlfriend answers or have him offer his place. Maybe money is scarce.

You never dump friends. Lovers can come and go but true friends last forever. I dumped mine and truly regret this every day. Friends are back but it will never be the same.

NEVER DUMP TRUE FRIENDS FOR A POTIENTAL MATE.. superficial friends and FWB ..... yes dump them... not the true ones. Good Luck
 dlopez3066

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I want my male friend to stay with me for a weekend but my boyfriend wont have it!
Posted: 9/2/2008 12:18:43 PM
Are you kidding me? You women are actually suggesting that her fiancee open his house to a complete stranger? Or someone even had the idea of the fiancee paying for a hotel room. WOW. Sounds like there are alot of wacked women out there. Im positive if the shoes were in the other foot the woman would not even lift a finger for the so called friend. The fiancee is already in a bad situation and shouldnt have to sacrafice a damn thing for this non sence his gf is putting him through.
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