| Starting to get turned off with shaved women
Posted: 7/26/2008 8:14:13 AM | HRH QUEEN, you have some serious issues!  But then you're from the Middle East, so I can see why you have the attitude you do. "Public health issue"... give me a break!   
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Posted: 7/26/2008 8:18:19 AM | | Ninki, for the record, i was born and raised here in the u.s. ur right about us middle easterners though, we all have serious issues. guess we should all just go back to the desert where we belong, right? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:02:40 AM | | I find the pubic hair on a women to be one of the sexiest things on their body... When I see a women that is shaven it reminds me of a little girl... It just wierds me out .. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:19:38 AM | | i have a better idea Ninki, why don't they just round us all up and herd us all off to concentration camps. nothing like some good old fashioned ethnic clensing to rid people like you (who have a monopoly on this country) of us middle easterners who all have "issues". | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:33:26 AM | | ok i highly agree with you and you have a great point. yes some may groom themselves downstairs for there sexual mates but more than likely its mostly for themselves.. but hey you all wanna complain about it go right on ahead if its so boring down there then why dont you let it grow out and braid each others pubic hair... | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:40:08 AM | No, HRH I just find it highly offensive and insulting when someone implies that I'm a pubic health threat because I have pubic hair. And, I'm sorry if this is politically incorrect, I do not like the misogynistic, medieval, barbaric culture of most Middle Eastern countries. It's not a race thing, either. Middle-Easterners are by and large very attractive people, I just don't like the culture. JMO. 
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:49:08 AM | | with all due respect Ninki. my thoughts on pubic hair do not originate from my middle eastern culture. they originate from my irish and scotish doctor who philisophically is as american as the day is long. you say that you're not a racist, but i'm still trying to figure out how opinions about pubes of all things became a "middle eastern" issue. what is the correlation between the 2 subjects? i don't understand. oh, by the way, i'm an excellent cook. perhaps i can cater your clan rallies sometimes? | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 9:53:39 AM |
HRH QUEEN B wrote:
i have a better idea Ninki, why don't they just round us all up and herd us all off to concentration camps. nothing like some good old fashioned ethnic clensing to rid people like you (who have a monopoly on this country) of us middle easterners who all have "issues".
I have an even better idea: Why don't you use your postdoctoral brain to figure out that dispite all the "kitty"talk in this thread it isn't the place for a cat fight? Your "concentration camp" remark is ridiculous and tasteless beyond imagination. Has it ever occured to you that POF members might have lost family in the Holocaust and that any kind of sick or sarcastic jokes about "concentration camps" are utterly disrespectful to anyone whose family was affected by the Holocaust?
That said: I doubt that anybody's pubic hair is a matter of public health. It might be a matter of pubic health, though, but that's an individual matter only.
Besides, every fourth American girl ages 14 - 19 has at least one STD, and from what I am hearing in this thread it seems to be common for 14 and 15 yr olds to shave their vulva. So overall health among those pubic-hair-phobes doesn't seem to be too good... | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 10:03:46 AM | | with all due respect urbanessa, i am not insensitive to the holocost or it's victims. my sons father is an orthodox jew . the comment was made to illustrate the absurdity of people who think that they have a monopoly on this country and all that is american. please get off your soap box about families of holocost victims and how i'm disrespecting them because i wouldn't do that if someone paid me. the father of my child is jewish and his side of the family IS my family, not to mention the fact that i was born to an etheopian jewish mother, so spare me the b.s. interesting though that you didn't find the unwarranted attack on my ethnicity tasteless though. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 10:50:17 AM | Hair on a woman doesn't turn me off at all. Actually, I like it too.
If a woman wants to shave or trim or do nothing, it's fine with me.
I'll go down on her whether there's a bush or not. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 12:20:45 PM | HRH, I've heard (maybe wrongly?) that women in the Middle East always shave their vulvas. And if *my* African-American GYN doctor or any doctor told me that pubic hair is a public health danger, I'd look for a new doctor post haste. This is an ignorant comment, no matter who utters it. Oh, BTW I got invited to try out a new Middle Eastern restaurant that just opened in my town. I'm sure the food will be delectable. 
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Posted: 7/26/2008 2:25:38 PM | I prefer a lady with bush or just natural. I don't care for look of it being shaved never have and I love a good bush!
There are no studies that indicate that the growth of pubic hair is more or less a cause of infection or creates hygiene issues. The point is the hair was in place to prevent infections and poses no issues for infection or UTI's. Most OB/GYN's do not advocate the removal of the pubic hair. Complete removal leads to the area being inflamed and the growth of ingrown hairs. More OB/GYN's see women who have "bumps" that think they have an STD but it was caused by shaving than any other problem now.
The USA and some parts of Canada are one of the few places that shaving the pubic region has become more common and yes it really is a fad. Only in the last 15 years has it really become more common place. In European countries its still not uncommon to see women who don't shave at all. But then again until the 1950's showers where a fad also. And in the 1920's bathing more than twice a week was extravagant. Now if you wanted something objectionable I would think a big ol hairy bush that only got washed once a week might do it!...LOL
In the 80's and going back, it was all bush and real men ate hairy ****. As the porn industry moved to VHS tapes and more and more movies were produced for the masses to watch at home more and new areas of porn came to be readily available. A lot of it started out with very young (18 year old) girls who shaved to resemble much younger girls (and yes a few were busted at being only 15, 16,17 years old). It was an segment of the industry that boomed was the pre-teen look in porn. There is a huge market for this (its a shame but true). Thus shaving was born in the porno industry. So if you look back in the late mid 80's you see a handful of adult actors shaved. Buy the 90's it was common and now its pretty much standard. However, there are a lot of movies that cater to hairy bush lovers and those that like it natural. So a good segment of the population is still not shaved. if you watch current adult movies from other countries you will see that most are NOT shaved.
In the general population only a small percentage of people completely remove pubic hair. But really all the same reason you can give to shave off your pubic hair are the same reason to shave your head too. You might as well go completely hairless.
And if you want to try to argue the hygiene issue, any vagina that does not get washed will get the same infections as one that has hair or no hair.  | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 3:28:52 PM | actually Ninki, it depends on one's school of thought. it's a mixed bag around the middle east on the shaving thing kinda like here in the u.s. lol. my obgyn gives all of her patients extensive lectures on how pubes are a no no. i swear she's a stickler in this subject area, it's actually kind of comical. at the end of the day though i think she's just a good irish catholic lady who is passionate about her patients and what she does. you have my most profound apologies Ninki if i offended you. i don't set out to hurt or annoy anyone. by the way i hope you love the food. i'm sure that it will be healthy as well as tasty.  | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 4:49:22 PM | So we're good then, HRH? I don't normally deal low blows to people by insulting their heritage, but what you posted in your first message really offended me, so I shot back. I apologize, too. I still think your doctor is wrong. 
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Posted: 7/26/2008 5:19:23 PM | HrH, I think your obGyn has issues of her own and needs to be reported to the AMA. As for 'unhygienic', etc. I call utter bullsh!t. This is a new fad, and it's just a fad. You're not going to try to make a case that every woman since the dawn of time had constant infections and even fatal kidney disease, all because they didn't shave 
If you happen to think that looking like you did when you were 8 is great, go for it, but don't make up bogus reasons for doing it. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 6:03:06 PM | | Ninki we're good and all is well i'm haapy to say and thnx for accepting my apologies. i have noticed that another person has an issue with what my doctor says as well,but who would dare refute an elder. this woman is old enough to be my mother. contradicting her would be profoundly disrespectful and scandalous as well. i'm sure you understand Ninki. trust me this is one of those things where ya just go in, lower ur head and keep ur lips sealed and aside from questions, the only thing you say is yes ma'am, no ma'am, and thank you ma'am. lol. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 7:22:44 PM | I did google the topic of pubic hair shaving and OB/GYN recommendations. I ran across several posts on yahoo answers and even the site of an OB/GYN where there are women who's ages ranged from late teens to mid 40's whom at one time had an OB/GYN tell them to shave it off or trim it way down. The women who wrote the questions where offended by the direction of the Dr. and wanted to know if they really had to do it. The answers were all pretty typical and a couple were from people who claimed to be OB/GYN's or nurses that worked in an OB/GYN office. In general they stated that there is no known medical reason for even hirsute women to have to remove the hair in or around the pubic region. It was recommended that any OB/GYN that advises this should not be seen again and you should seek the advice of another OB/GYN. Most seem to agree that only in certain clinical procedures where the need for a sterile environment is required does the need to shave pubic hair have a medical reason. They felt that you should know that the removal of pubic hair is a personal choice and those that engage in shaving of the genital region should understand the risks associated with it like; the risk of infection and other associated problems such as inflammation, ingrown hairs etc. In general OB/GYN's see more women with problems associated with shaving/waxing than women who just trim.
All I am saying is that there is no medical evidence that having pubic hair causes anything!...there is a lot of evidence that shaving your genitals is a lot worse than leaving them alone!!... | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 7:36:10 PM | WOODMAN, spare that bush!
Touch not a single bough!
In youth it sheltered me,
And I'll protect it now.
'Twas my forefather's hand
That placed it near his cot;
There, woodman, let it stand,
Thy axe shall harm it not!
That old familiar bush,
Whose glory and renown
Are spread o'er land and sea,
And wouldst thou hew it down?
Woodman, forbear thy stroke!
Cut not its earth-bound ties;
O, spare that aged oak,
Now towering to the skies!
When but an idle boy
I sought its grateful shade;
In all their gushing joy
Here too my sisters played.
My mother kissed me here;
My father pressed my hand --
Forgive this foolish tear,
But let that old oak stand!
My heart-strings round thee cling,
Close as thy bark, old friend!
Here shall the wild-bird sing,
And still thy branches bend.
Old bush! the storm still brave!
And, woodman, leave the spot;
While I've a hand to save,
Thy axe shall hurt it not.
...with apologies to George Pope Morris
PS has anyone noticed that women started shaving when GW Bush was elected in 2000? A form of silent protest? Something to ponder...........
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Posted: 7/26/2008 11:28:52 PM | Ug........I don't like hair on a woman's fore-arms.......YES.....SHAVE, SHAVE, SHAVE.......If you don't want to........I will. I hate hair with a passion........it only belongs on a woman's head and a man's head. We should all be hairless everywhere else. (well eyebrows are OK )
Just my opinion.....but I also hate tarantulas too...(that's what body hair reminds me of) | |
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Posted: 7/26/2008 11:55:46 PM | Can't speak for me obviously haha, I'm a fan of the bald look, at the very least the nearly bald look for the crotchular area.
I mean lets face it, it's a matter of personal preference.
I hear it's growth is caused by testosterone, a male hormone, so less hair = more feminine to me anyway.
Who cares anyway, if you like it she can always grow it back, if you don't she can always shave it down again. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2008 12:15:24 AM |
I hear it's growth is caused by testosterone, a male hormone, so less hair = more feminine to me anyway.
Actually, testosterone is vital to the sex drive of both men and women. You get a woman with none and that's when you have a problem. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2008 12:16:36 AM | | i think bushes are disgusting....bald is better in this case....but i dont like guys without pubes....double standard i guess...i just think men should be harry and women shouldnt be. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2008 5:18:00 AM |
has anyone noticed that women started shaving when GW Bush was elected in 2000?
Umm, he wasn't 'elected', but anyway...  I say 'yes' to my bush but 'no' to Bush.
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