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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 8:58:15 AM | Hi Gwen, I like reading your posts and think your great.
I am truly surprised that a man your age would even wonder about something like this.
the older I get, the more I see how brutal the world is. people are mean, selfish, and I dont beleive that people will forgo a persons looks cause they are so great. no way, maybe one in a million, but no, its not common, poeple are just not that kind, especially attractive people, its been pointed out in this thread a few times. my 5 year boy is good looking, and I thank GOD every day, cause good looking people DO have it easier in life. people that are not seen as attractive have it harder in our society, that is true!!! especially for women! in fact, such a couple (ugly & attractive) would probably have to overcome the same kind of racism, as say a black/white couple for example, so there is also this to overcome. so you want to bash me, go ahead, but you cant deny that people are treated differently based on their looks
You called us ugly, fat, and bald people useless. Obviously, if we are not raving beauties, in your world, we should slink around, climb into our Honda Civics and drive off into the sunset, back to our ugly spouses and ugly kids. Did you honestly think that spouting off about ugly people would NOT get you a backlash?
I laughed at this one, its too funny. I apologised right away and explained why I used that word. your statement says you took my word very personally, for that I'm sorry, nothing was aimed towards you | |
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eazk
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:03:47 AM |
Uhmmm..so out of at least 100 first dates, you've still not found that "ONE" person!!..not sure you've got too much right to start "name calling" the OP!!!...sounds like you're a bit too fussy yourself !!
Perhaps...but the key here is that I've had the opportunity...as have they. Have I found "the ONE"? Well, I've had a couple of pretty incredible relationships...that does not mean that both of us were able to be on the same wavelength at the same time. It doesn't mean I'm too fussy...might mean she is. I've had relationships disintegrate because of the Separation versus Divorced thing, due to kids (mine), due to exes (hers), etc., etc..
All I'm doing is learning what I should know to put myself squarely in the path of opportunity...which is about 95% more than most AFC's do. And truthfully, what's wrong with being fussy...sure beats the hell out of having another bad relationship and divorce. So yeah, anything which enables me to be real and to help her be real and then allows us to make the decision if we're right for each other...as a mutual and loving choice, is definitely something I want to pursue. The first goal is to learn to relax and have fun...how else do you get to know someone?
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:06:44 AM |
I dont beleive that people will forgo a persons looks cause they are so great. no way, maybe one in a million, but no, its not common
That's because you are a guy.
One of the absolute coolest things about women is that if you happen to have more going for you than just looks (I'm talking about 'real' attributes that women really care about, not the guy versions of them).....that state is very attractive to the 'babes' among them, as well as the normal ones. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:08:13 AM | | Dear Everlast, It is a known fact that was on tv about two months ago that the happiest married couples are those that, just like you're saying, pretty girl and an ugly guy. The survey was taken across America. The guy will do what he is told to do by her and he is so eager to please. He would give his life for her if need be. The survey said that the staying power in their marriage is like 70% Ladies if you truly want true love get you a guy that is not so good looking. Good looking guy, not all, will be flirted with the rest of your life, but the not so good looking guy doesn't run that risk for you. I mean when sex is said and done you will have the same satifaction not matter what he looks like, at the end. ----Sorry everlast for sending the ladies a message and now you will know from now on when you see a good looker with that not so good looking guy---I would say the smarther women is already on to the happiness romanic movement and happy too. Hope this helps, there is a lot more I could do on this subject, but got to go. Good Luck. paul | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:16:21 AM | | I consider myself an ugly guy. I simply do not have the looks. Yet, I have to say that I have gone out with a great number of incredibly good looking women. Once you start relating with this type of women and get to understand them, somehow you attract them. But once you've gone out with women because of their looks, you begin to look for beauty elsewhere. Yes, she has to take care of herself but you begin to seek those whose beauty is from within. Women with depth. And you know what? They are out there. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:20:12 AM | Most women ( and men as well ) would not date someone that they think is ugly. However when there is an attractive woman with an ugly man, here are some possible reasons for it.
1. The man is rich.
2. The man became less attractive after they started dating.
3. A woman is attracted to men that many other women would consider to be ugly.
4. A woman has low self esteem about her looks.
Some people have stated that men care about looks more than women do. IMO that's not true. Women generally care about looks just as much as men do. Most people will care about looks to some degree although some people ( regardless of gender ) will care more about looks than other people will. The major difference is that some women would date an ugly man if he was rich. I also think many people would date an average looking person because of personality. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:24:31 AM | Gwen is right my friend ~ and you know it.
I have a few observations myself ~ There is the people that watch and people that "do."
You may watch for a time and ask questions ~ both shallow and deep.
But in the end ~ you are left with getting off the fence and becoming involved. Win, lose or draw ~~ you engage life.
The beauty is found inside but the ugly goes to the bone. ( I'm speaking of you)
Now if you read that ~~ a 100 times ~ you might get it.
AND ~ THE REST? ~ is all about salesmanship.
Can you offer someone a deal they can't refuse?
If not ~ learn how
Dance | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:26:23 AM |
They pick the guy that they actually like, not one that looks good (prompting many “I don’t believe she’s with him” remarks from other jealous men)
Forget about it...or go ask her out...but for god's sake, be a man about it.
Pretty much, yeap. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:27:18 AM | | My comment will be very short. I see people like everlast every day. You think you're gods gift to woman but you're just as ugly as the people you describe as "ugly"....inside and out. Money & looks are all that matter to you. I feel sorry for you because you will probably NEVER find true love. | |
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eazk
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:31:40 AM | KevinMach~, typically that judgement includes presence (e.g. does he dress impeccably or is he a slob), confidence, eye contact, voice, etc.. It's not completely inaccurate, but I understand your perception that it is. Mystery is but one...and sometimes somewhat tilted (as his goal is more PUA and not so much the relationship), source of insight and ideas.
I agree, good looks can carry you a long way...but not having them is by no means a deal breaker. And yes, I know I have been rejected for my looks. That's OK, because there are about 10 times more women who are much more interested in who I am...and whoa...imagine that, they cover the spectrum of looks, too.
All I'm saying is the yardstick bends a lot more for women when they meet men of substance, but yeah, if a guy is closer to being an AFC the looks factor in a lot more.
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:43:06 AM | I would answer your question honestly, however as i'm UGLY and have never had the chance to date a BABE it would not be right for me to comment...
As one post said Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I have found on this site that a hell of a lot of people are shallow and only go for looks. That is their choice and good luck to them, it doesn't mean an UGLY person is a bad person or has nothing to offer in the short or long term. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:45:29 AM |
Hi Gwen, I like reading your posts and think your great.
I am fantastic, but that is beside the point. :)
the older I get, the more I see how brutal the world is. people are mean, selfish, and I dont beleive that people will forgo a persons looks cause they are so great.
You are the right--the world is brutal, but as I grow older, I see the necessity more and more of just simple kindness. People who are attractive and mean deserve each other. However, I have met as many "ugly" and mean people as I have attractive mean people. People are shallow, regardless of how they look. I just read the profile of a man who is fat and has vacuous, empty eyes--you would term him "ugly"--yet whom does he seek? A "sexy, attractive" woman.
but you cant deny that people are treated differently based on their looks
Of course people are treated differently because of their looks; I used to weigh 250 pounds; I know from experience how unattractive people are treated. But what is it we strive toward? Is is outer or inner beauty? Is it a gracious and lovely soul with a warm and inviting personality, or is it a face and body? When we speak of attractive people sticking to their own "kind," what are we promoting? Should we be thankful that our children are good-looking because we want them to be treated differently, or do we want them to develop that soul and personality?
Shouldn't we be striving toward a world where people are not treated differently because of the way that they look?
And I am not without my own shallowness--looks DO count. I would not date an obese man for several reasons, but if I saw a beautiful woman with a fat man, I wouldn't wonder why but think that there is something in him that she sees as . . . beautiful.
But if he is crass, nasty and rude, I would think that he is rich and he is buying her; again, they deserve each other
your statement says you took my word very personally, for that I'm sorry, nothing was aimed towards you
Nah, I didn't take it personally because although I am a bit plump, I don't consider myself unattractive. Some people might think I am ugly; others would think I am not. Some people would take it personally, though, and my crusading spirit takes up the banner. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 9:46:00 AM | OMG!!!!
My profile headline reads "God's gift to females"
Think I should change it to shallow & vain? | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:01:44 AM |
I consider myself an ugly guy.
Oh please ! You are a handsome man and you know it. That is why you get good looking women. I don't know about your personality as I don't know you ,but any good looking women you get is because you are in their league. I don't know why it is that so many good looking people consider themselves ugly. Modesty perhaps? Or you don't want to appear vain? | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:08:09 AM | because the dudes who are not the best looking are used to being turned down or are more self confident and just go ask.
There are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many men who do not make the first move.
But women loooove that! If we like you, we will respond, do not give up!!! See your prize and go after it! We all hate rejection but it does not kill us, it just teaches us new approaches..
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Posted: 7/15/2008 10:10:13 AM | Man OP - that was pretty shallow...lol I'm one of those guys... I've dated some beautiful women, but I'm obviously not Brad Pitt or George Clooney either... The secret? It is understanding that many beautiful women care less about how hot you are, or how much money you make, and more about how you make them feel when they're with you...
Also - when you're a hot guy, and your relationship goes south, do you sit around and wonder, "What did I do wrong?", or "What could I have done better?", or "What changes do I need to make so this doesn't happen again?" Probably not. Why bother!? Just snap your fingers and "presto", you have a new girlfriend... Well, not all attractive women are that shallow, or that willing to put up with a shallow man...
Mark
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:11:41 AM | | Also, remember the movie, Revenge of the Nerds? After the hot blond cheerleader accidentally slept with the nerd who she thought was her boyfriend, she realized he was a way better lover than her jock boyfriend. The nerd said, "all jocks think about is sports, all nerds think about is sex" | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:23:03 AM | People hate it when people get so into themselves - -
just like a really hot woman that knows it, Her clothes, her hair style, etc. They way she walks, We can see her a mile away - - - and men flock to her - - - I let them and go my way.
As she is not my type - - - she knows she has her pick and if she tires of you - - there are 50 or more men ready to take your place - - - - be ready to open your wallet.
And women see the same in men - - - -they know the type. - - - -
The ones that brag about money, Know how to play a woman, are into themselves - -
Like Ladies - - here I am - - - come to me, and let my pick which one that I like for the weekend - you can be assured of being pleased - - -
but where is the aspect of life beyond - - the surface - - where is any sharing and relationship development - - - is this all beyond these people - - - it seems to be .
Jim P. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:24:44 AM | | Why does it matter to you? For all we know she might have thought her boyfriend was absolutely gorgeous, or looks don't matter to her. Women pick men for a variety of reasons, all of which won't be apparent when you see a couple walking down the street. | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:24:50 AM | | from my experience guys who are good looking happen to be full of themselves and i never really did like how they acted in social situations...personality means so much more than a hot guy whos full of himself | |
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| Why do Babes dig ugly guys?
Posted: 7/15/2008 10:27:22 AM | | eh as in myself and some friends at times... after a while i know myself included that we get fed up of trying traditinal ways to get a girl and go all out to get that girl.. especially if shes good looking.. as some more good looking guys would let it fade or give up... | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 10:30:45 AM | Hey; I have to say it but I am not handsome I admit that long time ago.
I don't drive a car I drive a van,I don't have allot of money but it is enough for me
so when you say why do women dig ugly guys well I think they have dated the goodlooking types but when they saw there boyfriends talk down on these guys they wanted to know.
I speaking from personal exspearence .I met a beautiful women from Hong Kong on a dating site I took a chance and did my profile and put on a picture and I thought I didn't even had a chance in approuching this women .
It turned out I was the only one who cot her interest in who I was and she saw my picture and found me honest,It turns out all her other replys were telling her how much money they had they showed them standing in front of cars they owned
How many girls they turned down to talk to her she felt it would be her honor to date them so we dated for 5 mths but things didn't work out and here I am again.
So don't judge a book by its cover. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 10:32:35 AM | ^^Yes, it's always a great idea to your views on relationships for 80's B-movies. They would never steer you wrong :)
Ezak- I agree with you on those points, and the majority of the ones you made in your first post. What you said is true-there are other factors besides looks that factor into attraction, I don't deny that (like body language), but I still think it's the primary one for them just like it is for men-even if they are different than the exterior features guys look for.
So, OP... everyone is arguing why it's true and putting their theories forth as to why it happen, I am still telling you (along with one or two other posters) that it doesn't happen... much. Not enough that a 6'2" guy with an athletic frame needs to be wasting his time worrying about it.
EDIT: I remember a pretty interesting little tidbit I read regarding looks that I thought made sense, reflects my personal experience.
"Ask people who considered average looking what they think about looks in a partner, they will be inclined to say looks don't really matter. However, if a person is considered to be either really beautiful or really ugly... these are the people that say looks are important and do matter."
I found that pretty interesting. | |
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I agree ~ sense of humor and caring heart is much more vital than the outter shell we walk around in. 
And I agree with Gwen. I didn't read your profile, just the lingo throughout this thread ~ and it suggests someone in their 20's to me (if we are going to overgeneralize/stereotype here.) Maybe it's time to take a look at your own internal workings before judging those you deem: ugly, bald and bordering on over-weight. It really does scream of insecurities when one bashes others. I taught my son that concept when he was about age 6 ~ he got it. 
