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How about you and I write in Ron Paul?
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Posted: 7/22/2008 9:42:44 AM | Just an interesting aside to this topic...
Nine Republicans Vote for Impeachment Hearings, Ten Abstain
by Ralph Lopez
Global Research, July 20, 2008
Daily Kos - 2008-07-16
In a stunning development which fell with the silence of a feather yesterday, 9 Republicans broke with their iron-fisted party to put country first, and voted to send Rep. Dennis Kucinich's article of impeachment HR 1345 to the Judiciary, where Chairman John Conyers will hold hearings on abuses of power by the Bush administration, according to the Congressional Quarterly's CQToday.
Ten Republicans abstained in this critical moment, while only 5 Dems did. The vote was neck and neck at many moments, with "Nays" pulling ahead twice.
Those Republicans are (Yea 238 - Nay 180):
Congressman Kevin Brady (TX)
Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (MD)
Congressman Walter B. Jones (NC)
Representative Don Manzullo (IL)
U.S. Congressman Tim Murphy(PA)
Congressman Ron Paul (TX)
Congressman Dave Reichert (WA)
Congressman Christopher Shays (CT)
Representative Mike Turner (OH)
One of the Republicans, Walter Jones, represents Camp LeJeune in North Carolina, one of the largest Marine bases in the country, and one which has borne heavily the sacrifice of the Iraq War.
Global Research Articles by Ralph Lopez
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Posted: 7/22/2008 9:59:18 AM | Wht I meant, and what EVERYONE else got, was the play on words that it doesn't matter how many "facts" we place here, your side will always revert to the spin and rhetoric. I thought that was pretty clear.
I have an exceptional education, I don't rely on a "gut feeling," I DEPEND on facts. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/22/2008 11:52:40 AM | | One of my best friends is an old-school conservative, who hates Bush and McCain. He's more of the Pat Buchanan type of conservatism (which some neocons today derisively call "paleoconservatives"...), and I know for a fact he's writing in Ron Paul along with a bunch of his friends. He had actually told me that if it had been Hillary or McCain , he'd have seriously considered Hillary, but I guess Obama's too far "left" for him...oh well, to each his own. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 2:31:26 PM | I would think most will realize that this site is Canadian based and as the Political Forum indicates, has more Liberal minded Posters. Nothing at all wrong with that. In fact, it's cool indeed. We, Conservatives can come here and bring a different viewpoint than is in majority here.
Nothing really is going to change the minds of the Posters on this Forum... mainly for the above stated reason.
With all of that taken in, as it should be logically speaking, there can be no real barometer here on what Middle America is thinking. Middle America is very very very low in representation here specifically.
Middle America is what makes up the majority of the Republicans. So, no true determination will present itself, in factual manner, on this forum re' Republican Party as a whole. To think otherwise is not realistic.
Opinions are one thing... Facts another and there is not enough factual info here specifically geared to the Republicans to determine how good or bad the atmosphere really is. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/22/2008 2:49:10 PM |
In December the number of Americans that consider themselves Republican jumped to 34.2% and in the same timeframe the number of Americans that consider themselves Democrats fell to 36.3%, leaving the Democrats with a 2.1 percentage point advantage
Come November, we'll likely see a tremendous change to this equation.
those 34% who own republican viewpoints are pretty much lock, stock and barrel of the republican party, whilest the 36% of democrats is a small measure of their overall numbers.
If ALL democrats went out to vote, every year, republicans could permanently hang up their hats, which is probably why Hillary said republicans are facing political extinction, given the current course they're on. Problem is, a vast majority of democrats, especially in the lower income brackets, (and most especially among black voters), have felt their votes didnt' really matter, and thus, republicans have fared well. But, this November, I'm quite sure the numbers will reveal themselves, democrats will show up to vote, and that 36% referenced will be more like 45-55%. Overall, democrats far outnumber republicans, they've just gotten lazy in years past, but with a black president forthcoming, my premonitions are they'll turn out in massive numbers. Thus far, from a blacks perspective, presidency has been nothing but a white mans game, so the tables have turned. Thsi year will mark one of the biggest turn out of voters, on both platforms, but dems are easily going to outnumber reps. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 2:54:35 PM | I think this election will demonstrate just how strong and the magnitude of the Republicans there are. It will be an eye opener for this Nation. Well, not for the Citizens.. just for the Media.
The Liberal Media will look like idiots re' their lovefest with Obama and as their ratings are declining, an acceleration will be evident.
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Posted: 7/22/2008 3:00:06 PM | | Well I think this election will demonstrate just how strong the league of first time voters and all of the boatloads of newly registered Democrats are. I think it will be an eye opener for the chubby ,comfy, Rush is Right set. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/22/2008 3:20:31 PM | | I think the exciting thing about this election is that a lot of people from all walks of life, parts of the country, young and old, white and black and brown and red, conservative and liberal, men and women, christians, atheists, and other believers are all tired of where the country is, and although they may not agree on who the best man is to lead, feel that something must be done, and will actually get out and vote. That is a good thing. No matter what, no matter who wins, the fact that people are interested and engaged, in my opinion is a good start. GO US!!! | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 3:56:02 PM | IMO the best thing that will come of this election will be the voter turnout.
So many seem to have an opinion, yet so few vote....
Too bad the mudslinging won't stop afterwards, no matter who wins. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/22/2008 4:08:13 PM |
In a stunning development which fell with the silence of a feather yesterday, 9 Republicans broke with their iron-fisted party to put country first, and voted to send Rep. Dennis Kucinich's article of impeachment HR 1345 to the Judiciary, where Chairman John Conyers will hold hearings on abuses of power by the Bush administration, according to the Congressional Quarterly's CQToday.
This is one of the best things that could possibly happen. If it does, I hope they try him and his administration for war crimes as well. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/22/2008 5:40:43 PM |
This is one of the best things that could possibly happen. If it does, I hope they try him and his administration for war crimes as well
IF they do, my faith in ...... American principles....... would be restored.
They skated on stealing the election, they've skated on tax breaks for the rich; they've skated on so many issues, waving their noses high, wielding their powers of authority abusively.....lives have been lost, and nothing has been done. It's HIGH time Americans start acting like Americans. They can take down Cheney, Rumsfeld, Scalia and that A$swipe former attorney general Gonzoles. They spent 1million a day, trying to impeach Clinton over a blowjob, and yet, not one word of actual arguement against these hardline Romper Room crooks we have now. What a disgrace to American people.
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Posted: 7/22/2008 5:52:03 PM | I got this in an email today. Not sure how factual it is, but the general tone is something we all need to remember, IMO. I hope it's appropriate to post here.
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army;
another had two sons captured .
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
T homas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fiel ds and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't.
So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.
Remember: freedom is never free!
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Posted: 7/22/2008 6:30:53 PM |
Wht I meant, and what EVERYONE else got, was the play on words that it doesn't matter how many "facts" we place here, your side will always revert to the spin and rhetoric. I thought that was pretty clear.
Respectfully, I guess it depends on what media you are using. Because that's exactly what "my" side thinks abut yours.
I think it is clear enough as it stands. | |
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| How Bad is it for Republicans?
Posted: 7/24/2008 7:20:02 AM |
Middle America is what makes up the majority of the Republicans.
Such a true statement and I can tell you from living in TN, republican base is strong here. The problem for the republican party is that all the true conservatives that support Bob Barr and Ron Paul are breaking away from the hijacked republican party. You will see many votes from true conservatives go to Bob Barr or people will write in Ron Paul. That along with many independents breaking towards Obama as he tries to appeal to the center moderate voters could swing the election. I still believe Obama is the underdog in this election regardless of what the polls currently say. To me this country is still just as divided as it was 4 yrs ago and 8yrs ago as those elections both showed. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2008 9:51:18 AM |
Why are the republicans crying about the media bias then? Is fox guilty of airing too much Obama? If they didn't think it was bad, they wouldn't be so worried as to harp on such a non-issue.
This further demonstrates the lack of clear thinking! (A Non Issue) to who you? First of all it's not just Republicans who are pointing this out! Even Democrats feel this is a problem, try not being so close minded! Look at it for what it is....Besides if you had any real idea of Fox news you would understand that they have been critical of Bush and McCain...Republicans are not crying...that's a typical over exaggeration from the left...It's an observation of both sides, can you leave your bias at the door for a minute and actually respond with some clarity and not slanted BS... I'm stating facts and your trying to troll and flame bait...how sad! | |
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Posted: 7/24/2008 10:02:58 AM |
This further demonstrates the lack of clear thinking!,
try not being so close minded! Look at it for what it is.......
Republicans are not crying...
that's a typical over exaggeration from the left...
you leave your bias at the door for a minute and actually respond with some clarity and not slanted BS...
I'm stating facts and your trying to troll and flame bait...how sad!
Sorry, just seems like a lot of crying to me. | |
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Posted: 11/20/2008 10:15:01 AM | Poll: GOP image goes from bad to worse
Posted: 12:30 PM ET
From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby
A new poll out Thursday paints a bleak picture for the GOP.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – The Republican Party has hit a new low.
Just 34 percent of Americans in a Gallup Poll released Thursday say they have a favorable view of the party, down 40 percent from a month ago, before the election.
What’s worse: 61 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of the Republican Party.
According to Gallup, that unfavorable rating is the highest the polling organization has recorded for the GOP since the measure was established in 1992.
The poll of national adults was conducted on November 13-16 with a three percent margin of error.
The numbers are slightly up from a CNN poll released last week that indicated a 54 percent unfavorable rating for Republicans. Only 38 percent of those polled had a favorable rating for the party.
Meanwhile, Democrats continue to bask in the glow of President-elect Barack Obama’s historic victory on November 4. The Gallup poll suggests that 55 percent of Americans hold a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, with 39 percent saying they have an unfavorable view. Those numbers are mostly unchanged from a mid-October survey. | |
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Posted: 11/20/2008 5:09:30 PM | | Ah but how lovely, this gives the republican party no place to go but up. Seriously, party leaders need to take a good look at where they are, where they've been, and where they want to go, and start taking steps to get there. If Obama has a successful presidency, it may be a while til they get there again, but in my opinion they need to return to their roots. I don't see that as a bad thing. | |
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Posted: 11/20/2008 9:46:51 PM | UMM... its this bad. And people actually cast a vote for this woman. Amazing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/20/sarah-palin-holds-news-co_n_145375.html | |
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Posted: 11/21/2008 9:03:47 AM |
Ah but how lovely, this gives the republican party no place to go but up. Seriously, party leaders need to take a good look at where they are, where they've been, and where they want to go, and start taking steps to get there. If Obama has a successful presidency, it may be a while til they get there again, but in my opinion they need to return to their roots. I don't see that as a bad thing.
Hillary said republicans were facing political extinction. I tend to agree, so to assume republicans have no where to go but up could easily be wishful thinking. With a potential Super Majority in Congress, the GOP may have seen its final dayz. With Bush's approval rating plunging the deep abyss, with his potential for being labeled The Worst President in History...and with all his chronies facing indictments.... we very well may see the end of republican politics as we've come to know them.
GOP Party leaders have a magnanimous task ahead of them..... to keep the party alive.
AS many historians have noted, they've done so much to destroy their credibility, in recent years, it's doubtful, at best, that they'll ever enjoy the same power they once did. With Cheney and Gonzalez's indictments coming out this week, with Bush's approval sinking below Nixons...and his characterization as the worst president in US history.....it's almost hard to imagine republicans ever gaining momentum to return to power. The failure in the financial markets only further extrapolates into a well earned, miserable future for republicans.  | |
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He makes it very clear he is no leader or uniter.."It's just words....only words" The problem he faces is he can't keep up with his own lies! 143 days in the Senate just isn't anytime for anyone to actually understand their affairs of this country much less have any idea what's going on world wide! I'm sure his Muslim supporters didn't appreciate Obamaca wearing a yammaca...
even the Obamiacs here seem to hate Israel and blame them and The US for the world problems..
