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 excessivemayhem
Joined: 3/25/2012
Msg: 51
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i usually ignore that particular question when i see on a woman's profile that i'm interested in dating.

i just prefer to let me actions speak for me, talk is so cheap it should be used to wipe my ass.

'nuff said, people
 optimismfirst
Joined: 2/29/2012
Msg: 52
Are there any good men left?
Posted: 4/18/2012 10:41:28 PM
no such thing as good men and none are left.
either gay, taken or married and cheating.
 excessivemayhem
Joined: 3/25/2012
Msg: 53
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Posted: 4/19/2012 5:10:25 PM
loveisstrong...that pretty much leaves no one left...lol
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
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Posted: 4/19/2012 6:57:17 PM

no such thing as good men and none are left.
either gay, taken or married and cheating.


You're 19, and more than likely still playing with the boys. Grow and blossom and in 10 years you will attract the right one. Keep the tude, and you'll be drinkin gallons of the red with the rest of the hens,cackling away, doing nuttin but making noise.
 JSNC7
Joined: 10/31/2010
Msg: 55
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Posted: 4/19/2012 7:11:43 PM
" no such thing as good men and none are left.
either gay, taken or married and cheating."

You've concluded this , and you have been an adult for less than 2 years now?

It might be your glasses, or the point of view that you are viewing the world from.

You could be on your way to a self fulfilling prophesy, you know ?

Or you can be more open and optimistic. Whatever you feed, it will grow.

OP, yes there are some good men left; over the years, I've received complements that I am one of them.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
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Posted: 4/19/2012 7:18:37 PM

there are some good men left; over the years, I've received complements that I am one of them.


Lucky son of gun!!!!! The last thing that I would call what the girls call me, is a compliment. In fact, I would actually feel bad about what they say,,,,if I cared.
 jdj7272
Joined: 2/27/2012
Msg: 57
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Posted: 5/1/2012 9:52:59 PM
If a woman feels this way my advice would be for her to work on herself. If all youre dating is losers you need to up your social status or put yourself in a position where you attract better men.
 redsox322
Joined: 11/3/2011
Msg: 58
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Posted: 5/1/2012 10:14:42 PM
I disagree. There are good men but usually they arent what I or most women could see ourselves with is the problem. I admit this. The good men are usually the men I dont find attractive physically so it kind of sucks
 Law212
Joined: 3/29/2012
Msg: 59
Are there any good men left?
Posted: 5/1/2012 10:17:14 PM
For Men:
M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile?

I hate seeing that on headlines. Makes me think "There are tons , but they are avoiding you in favour of "good women" and pass the person over.

M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles?

Yes many times . There are tons of other headlines that make me roll my eyes and and pass someone over. One really dumb one was "real eyes realize real lies" ugh.

M-3 What criteria do you use in determining whether you want to meet a woman in person?
I dont have a laundry list, its I do or i dont.

M-4 What criteria do you use in determining whether a woman is a good woman after meeting her in person?

same as above
 mysterioustallmn
Joined: 2/17/2010
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:53:36 AM
I have no reaction when seeing the question in a woman's profile. In my experience most women wouldn't know a good man if he were presented to them by God with a certificate of authenticity proclaiming this is the man for you, they'll still be looking around his shoulder for some tattooed freak straight out of Folsom State Pen. I believe in the concept everyone is a good person until proven otherwise. Naturally, otherwise usually wins out very quickly. The criteria I use in determining whether or not to meet a woman is always determined by cup size. Just kidding, I couldn't help it, sometimes I crack myself up. Generally, if a woman expresses a desire to meet me and it doesn't take an airplane, 2 trains, 11 buses, couple of rickshaws and a garbage barge to get there, I'll meet you.
 Chocolate_Brown31
Joined: 5/5/2006
Msg: 61
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:30:21 AM
This question in a woman's profile is an obvious red flag.... for simple reasons...

Anytime a woman puts something like that in her profile she's seeking attention, which is an issue far beyond seeking someone to date or start a relationship with.

and it doesn't work because:

A smart man knows that saying there's no good man left is one step from becoming a Lesbian. Ao either you take the pledge to try to bring her back from the other side or you move on. And no smart man wants that responsibility.

A good guy knows the woman has skeletons, and issues with past relationships and hasn't let go. She'll always be comparing between past lovers and once you upset her she throws you in the boat with her ex's. Basically it's a mater of time before your "just like all the other men" - Lesbian talk at the highest level

A dumb guy sees that and he's like I can be that good guy for her. But he usually is right on par or fails in comparison to the last dumb guy that fed her attention craving ways. So it ends in a car crash.

But a dog sees that and he's like "I can be a sweet guy long enough to get laid". Which is usually 2-3 dates (any longer and you might as well be in high school again). So those are the guys that respond to that kind of question and the vicious cycle continues.

All in all if your going to play the dating game online you have to think about what you type in your profile.
 cautiousluv
Joined: 10/4/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:34:36 AM

Why do you use this Question in your online profile?

I would never put this is my profile because of course there are good men left you just might have to weed out some of the bad one's first. And when you do find a good one.....it's make's you appreciate him just that much more.
 Trailsman5
Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:41:03 AM
Chocolate Brown31: Although you misrepresented the gay dynamic (shouldn't assume a correlation between homosexual women and man-bashing) you may be the closest thing on this thread to Yoda. Way to tell it like it is.

"Are there any good men left?" is a loaded question and can be read to mean "I dare you to not hurt me." It says she's angry and vulnerable. She will either dismiss you out of hand or decide very quickly that you're "the one."

Either way, only players will rise to the challenge. Decent fellas will leave her alone until she heals.
 LukeT77
Joined: 1/12/2009
Msg: 64
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:04:04 AM
When a woman explicitly indicates that she's developed some kind of general negativity that she projects onto guys and kinda expects them to screw her over in some way, then this is not a healthy attitude for going into any kind of relationship.

I would just expect a gal with that kind of attitude to be overly suspicious and clingy, ready to abandon a relationship at the very first hurdle of a relationship and condemn a guy they are getting involved with as 'just another bad guy' at the drop of a hat.

I personally prefer a gal who approaches a new relationship with a positive, optimistic outlook - like I would.
 kcomfort0001
Joined: 12/22/2010
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:10:28 AM
I think this is like the number one heading I see on nearly everything I honestly don't even think women truly want good men in fact I've used "extremely nice" to break it off with women I was no longer interested in because it actually works.. because what a woman says she's interested in and what's she's actually attracted to are two different things. While this may not apply to "all" women it definitely applies to a huge majority.

No I'm pretty sure all those women who have claimed that they are looking for a good man, have probably had many good guys message them and they probably didn't read it, deleted it, or just basically didn't give them the time of day. No sympathy here.
 Infinity_G
Joined: 1/29/2012
Msg: 66
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Posted: 5/2/2012 4:37:50 AM

The good men are usually the men I dont find attractive physically so it kind of sucks


So, guess you're seeing a pattern here.

It's really about a balance here....you see, unattractive people have to make up for that by relying on their personality, being nice, and other personal characteristics to attract someone......while attractive people don't really have to be nice, because they rely on their looks to get them where they need to be?

Just a theory....but I did hear something on the radio how at least average looking men make better long term mates than handsome men.

Yeah, but you can't have it both ways. lol
 Infinity_G
Joined: 1/29/2012
Msg: 67
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Posted: 5/2/2012 4:50:47 AM

No I'm pretty sure all those women who have claimed that they are looking for a good man, have probably had many good guys message them and they probably didn't read it, deleted it, or just basically didn't give them the time of day. No sympathy here.


Agreed on that....every time I see this heading, I just "react" to it. But, I'm sure that there are guys trying to contact her trying to CONVINCE her otherwise. There's been so many variants of the said heading, it's a common thing in profiles.

"Where are all the nice guys?"
"Are there any good men left?"

"Players and jerks need not apply!"
"If you have a criminal record, don't' contact me!" (as if the guy would let them know they're an ex-con, lol)

So a guy that's neither of these thinks, "Wow, I am definitely going to get a date with her, I'm not a player nor a jerk! Yes!!"

Yeah right, good luck, you and about 100 other men whoa re trying to prove her otherwise. LOL
 Chocolate_Brown31
Joined: 5/5/2006
Msg: 68
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Posted: 5/2/2012 6:53:04 AM
Thanks Trailsman, I forget Toronto's different sometimes. We don't use the term Homosexual really (a gay person isn't a different species) we consider gay as a preference (like grape juice, to apple juice).

In general if a profile is pessemistic it's safe to assume your experience with that person would be the same
 LukeT77
Joined: 1/12/2009
Msg: 69
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Posted: 5/2/2012 7:55:33 AM

In general if a profile is pessemistic it's safe to assume your experience with that person would be the same


That's a great way to put it! Totally agree.
 ejlmeasap1974
Joined: 4/28/2012
Msg: 70
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Posted: 5/2/2012 8:10:40 AM
Wow, I've never seen this thread before...it's a good one. Here are my responses:

M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile?
- This woman has obviously bought into modern day feminist indoctrination that states men are not 'good' if they
a. Are not on the immediate path to marriage
b. Enjoy living a life that is fulfilling to them, including dating multiple women and spending their money on themselves
c. Don't have their poop together in a woman's eyes (i.e. don't have a six figure job or working diligently on that conquest - so that he can buy his wife that house and car she always wanted)
d. Don't disclose everything that has ever happened or is going on in their lives within the first week of dating someone, but simply wants to have a care-free dating experience without the heavy drama
e. He lives life to please himself, not her
M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles?
- I don't date women who have these beliefs.
M-3 What criteria do you use in determining whether you want to meet a woman in person?
a. Is she hot in her pics?
b. Is she pleasant over email/phone/text conversations?
M-4 What criteria do you use in determining whether a woman is a good woman after meeting her in person?
a. Does she talk about herself ad nauseum the entire time, or does she take an interest in who I am as well?
b. Was she truthful in her profile (pics, other facts)?
c. Is she nice to others, such as the wait staff?
d. Does she thank me if I decided to buy coffee or the drinks, or does she seem to think that I'm obligated to do so?
 ssr51
Joined: 4/22/2012
Msg: 71
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Posted: 5/2/2012 9:33:08 AM
In my experience, they have already met the "good guy" or "decent guy". They didn't give him a chance, though. Or maybe, he didn't have a six pack, Harley, huge bank account, the right job, the right car, etc.
 redsox322
Joined: 11/3/2011
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Posted: 5/2/2012 9:46:18 AM
No different than men my age and younger being like Oh wait she isnt a size 0 or a size 2? Shes not blond and perfect with fake breasts and wears tons of makeup so i can show her off to my friends? Its a chain that revolves constantly. Men dont give women a chance who may not be a size 2 so this is funny to hear when men are just as bad. For me there are good men I know but I just dont see myself with older men or morbidly obese men which is what seems to contact me so. Just an example
 Orgulloso
Joined: 8/28/2010
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Posted: 5/2/2012 1:01:26 PM
Domo,

I felt your previous post is the closest to my personal experience:


There are good men but usually they arent what I or most women could see ourselves with is the problem. I admit this. The good men are usually the men I dont find attractive physically so it kind of sucks


This latest post nullifies your previous post. You said that you cannot see yourself with a "good man" who isn't attractive to you yet you go off on a tangent about the shallow guys who are looking for Barbie.

I've been told that I'm nice, but there's no chemistry (again the attraction thing). So ...you're looking for the rare combination of a good man who would serve as good eye candy. Pretty much sums up my POF experience.
 Stray__Cat
Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:22:05 PM
I usually don't answer these type of specific surveys,
As I prefer Cosmo to pay their staff for real research.
.....but since I am bored.....


For Men:
M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile?

To move on to another profile.
Cus I mostly see it on the profiles of unattractive ladies.
(Sorry, but I do.)

M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles?

Never dated any, so can't say.

M-3 What criteria do you use in determining whether you want to meet a woman in person?

Mostly if she has nice eyes with a nice smile in her picture.
Secondary considerations is if she avoids cliches and generalizations like the one above.
and her profile is not too wordy.
(If it is.... she doesn't know what she is doing. So is an online newbie and can be annoying to communicate with
due to the usual bad experiences that only newbies make.)


M-4 What criteria do you use in determining whether a woman is a good woman after meeting her in person?

If she is open, easygoing, smart, knows what she is doing(online and in life),
and can easily recognize the same in me.
:-P
 SomeStrangeMan
Joined: 6/4/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:27:00 PM
For Men:
M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile?
M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles?
M-3 What criteria do you use in determining whether you want to meet a woman in person?
M-4 What criteria do you use in determining whether a woman is a good woman after meeting her in person?

M1 - I wonder what the hell a "good man" is. Are they looking to date John Goodman, or a priest or what?
M2 - Generally, I've not bothered seeking experiences with them because they're predominantely single parents or have obvious self-confidence (or other) issues.
M3 - I need to answer with a yes to these questions: Am I attracted to their personality? Can I imagine being physical with them? Are there no other disqualifying things about them (like being an alcoholic/druggie or not living anywhere near me)?
M4 - It depends what you mean by "good" woman.

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