| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 2:45:58 AM | | i dont agree that if the parent with care is on benefits they can only claim £20, its like taxing soeone twice, i had an interview with csa a few years ago and was told that the absent parent could buy clothing food of any amount etc and provide receipts to the csa , then they probably wouldnt take money aswell.......if this is the case anything the absent parent pays over the £20 claimable limit should be given in clothing vouchers and the like instead of being used to pay for all the csa's kok ups | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 2:55:07 AM | I think the first change is ridiculous, it should be up to the parent who has custody of the child to decide whether or not they use the CSA or not.
The second change is a good one, in my opinion.
What should they change? Well, maybe...just maybe...they should get off their backsides and actually do some work for a change!! When my Mum divorced her husband, she gave the CSA his name, address, telephone number, email, work address, work number...."Sorry, but we can't find him." WHAT!?! This is the man who was earning over £30k a year whilst my mum struggled on benefits, unable to work, refusing to pay for his own daughter. And then...and this kills it, once he was found he quit his job so he didn't have to pay! Hows that for cutting your nose off you spite your face  | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:04:08 AM |
I think the first change is ridiculous, it should be up to the parent who has custody of the child to decide whether or not they use the CSA or not.
It is the parent who recieves the maintenence who will be able to make the descision which in the majority of cases is the parent who has custody. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:11:59 AM | Recieving parents on benefits. The parent claiming benefits will now be able to claim up to £20 a week of the child maintenence without it affecting their current benefits
Might be worth me giving my job up even more now!!!
Seems Id be better off not working! | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:19:57 AM | Hi all
my daughter is 9 now and never received a penny from ex now and again received a letter saying that he is to pay £0 . havent recieved one for a few years now though. Hes never even seen her so im not surprised. Hes in and out of prison which probably is the reason he doesnt have to pay. Im not the only one with kids from him so hes got away with it a few times i reckon. But like the saying goes anyone can be father a child takes someone special to be a dad. x | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:25:09 AM | The sooner the CSA get their arses into gear the better. I get £5 per week off my Dad, well did until i turned 18 and then received nothing. The CSA penalise people who work, and PAY to the other parents by saying 'oh you owe this much and we want it paid back in this amount of time' and let the parents who hide all the money income all the bank accounts to get away with paying sod all! And all of that is off experiance...they are useless..but so isnt the rest of everything else in this Country!!! | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:27:37 AM |
It is the parent who recieves the maintenence who will be able to make the descision which in the majority of cases is the parent who has custody
Thanks Kath =) I should pay more attention when reading! Sorry!  | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:30:28 AM | Haha that was a good ending. You could actually get them to do that although dont expect much too quickly...i still havent got my back pay off my Father...good luck if you do go with it though! | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 3:53:36 AM | | It needs to change ive heard too many horror stories, they seem to be getting it wrong more than right. If couples can sort out issues between themselves there's no need to get them involved. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 8/11/2008 4:48:07 AM | The CSA is nothing but a big joke, I don't even know how they work out what the absent parent pays, as I know men who are paying an arm and a leg, for one child, and they are not what you call decent wages, but then men like my ex who is on a decent wage, is paying pittance for three kids.
Could I trust him to pay without going through the CSA, NO, if he can't send his kids a birthday card, child maintance not a hope.
My youngest father, as far as I am concerned I would rather rot in hell than take a penny off the ingrate. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/2/2008 10:49:58 AM | message 23 how honest of you, to check when wages go up.
My twins dad has always steared me away from the CSA and paid private, prob coz he knows id get allot more via the CSA (ive seen his company reports, house, porches ect). He gives me a £20 pay rise each year - g thanks!!
If I was with the CSA and felt the ex was un trustworthy in paying up, id stay with the CSA, otherwise if he stops paying you have to go through all the paperwork all over again with the CSA. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/2/2008 11:02:06 AM | I think its a great idea. Why shouldnt the parents be able to sort it out themselves?
Personally i didnt go through the CSA as know how they shaft people and leave them without anything to live on. My friend gets a lot of his wages taken and it leaves him with nothing to live in, yet the CSA just dont want to know. He is not an absent Dad and sees his kids every other weekend, yet she decided to go through the CSA to get more money out of him so she could build a house. Yes the house will be for the kids but still seems a little unfair | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/2/2008 11:21:34 AM | | radical changes for the csa!thats a joke in its self !having spent over 3 hours yesterday evening being passed from one department to another . let me explain. i have a job that i enjoy and work 30 miles from home have always kept the csa informed of any changes ie pay rises etc it doesn,t matter how much i earn i am only intitled to have the same money as somebody on the dole ,after my accomodation costs (in my case a mortgage )and council tax are taken off everything else gos to the children .this means that as personal living money i am only intitled to £61 a week out of this i am expected to pay travel to work costs (£35 a week) gas electic ,road tax, car insurance. house insurance , food clothing, ect and thats before entertaining my children every other weekend, it doesn,t take a mathermatician to realise this is an impossibility ! and why because the csa work on travel to work costs formulated in 1993! and voted by mp,s yearly not to amend them! (the csa give me £3.80 travel allowance per month!) there a total joke if you and your ex can avoid using them do so as they take nearly £300 of me each month and the mother see,s only a percentage of that, the rest gos towards children who,s dads have avoided the csa ! even the people working for the csa can see its an impossible circumstance but are powerless to do anything because of the useless over payed mp,s that run our goverment wont get off there fat arses and confront the problem! no wonder dads are jumping off bridges dressed as superman!!!! | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/2/2008 12:19:16 PM | In regards to the absent parent, what do you think maintainance should cover.
Should it be 50/50 split betwen the parents.
IE food, clothes, leasuire/hobbies for the children.
But what about water, electricity, gas, mortgage and other utility bills - should the absent father contribute to those, as it is after all "keeping a roof over the childrens head" - im just interested to know, as my twins dad recons it doesnt. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 2:31:44 PM | | i think Csa pays for my ex wife to get drunk and pull men every weekend while i cant afford to go out | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 2:45:46 PM | I think they are good changes.
When my daughter's father and myself split up, I moved out with Mia and back to my mum. I started claiming benefits which meant I had no choice in the involvement of the CSA. They were involved whether I liked it or not. I definately didn't like it. As Mia's dad and I were getting on reasonably well, and had an agreement without them. As soon as they became involved, they started taking more money from him and giving me less! Which only made our situation more tense. I even made complaints about this several times and all I was told was that whilst I continued to claim benefits, I have no option.
So I did the only thing I could do, put my 2 year old daughter into full time day care ( ) and went back to work full time. No more CSA, but the damage had already been done. There was continuing resentment between my ex and I.
Hell, nothing complicates things like, sex, love, babies and money. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 2:55:31 PM | The changes are for one purpose only, the government to save money. The CSA is in chaos and is currently ineffectual in making many absent parents pay for their children. Many reasons for this but largely, because of a computer system that simply doesnt work properly. As you say, it takes years to sort out any benefit due.
I work in a benefits office. Not CSA but we are using a similar computer system. I predict lots of people will have problems receiving their entitlements. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 3:00:53 PM |
As from Oct it will be left to the parent recieving maintenance to decide if they want to remain with the CSA or deal directly with the other parent.
RecEIving!!
It looks like an attempt by the government to reduce the workload. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 3:18:15 PM | The CSA is a complete and utter waste of time. I keep contacting them with my daughters fathers name and address and plaxe of work and they keep telling me he doesnt work where i am saying. I know for a fact where he lives and where he workd and they do nothing.
I had NO choice whether or not I contacted the CSA as I was in reciept of income support. So if the change means that I can choose good. I will withdraw my claim. The whole of the CSA is not worth a penny of taxpayers money the whole thing should be scrapped without question!!!
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 3:31:02 PM | im glad this is changing............and so is my ex....... she's tired of getting irregular payments from these guys and especially when i pay nearly £300 per month and she's lucky tom see half of that and the csa cant tell me why! | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 3:55:24 PM | CSA is hopeless. People should be able to use standard formulae for payment levels themselves and to use the court system and police to enforce when needed and these bodies should take it seriously - a crime if payment failure. Additionally the benefits system should have provision to 'make-up' any unpaid maintenance ie pay the custody parent and take on the debt of the offending non-payer on behalf of the receipiant. But and this is a big BUT that I think may not go down too well - if you are on benefits surely this already includes an amount calculated to cover living costs of you and children so if maintenance comes from absent parent then it should reduce benefits by similar amount ie offset it. Remember the paying parent is paying their share towards upkeep of child/ren not upkeep of the other adult.
Suspect flames to come here. | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/4/2008 11:48:05 PM |
As from Oct it will be left to the parent recieving maintenance to decide if they want to remain with the CSA or deal directly with the other parent.
RecEIving!!
Thankyou Mr.Outulike for pointing out my major blunder.I shall don my dunces cap and procede straight to POF jail without passing go or picking up £200.
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/5/2008 12:03:37 AM |
But and this is a big BUT that I think may not go down too well - if you are on benefits surely this already includes an amount calculated to cover living costs of you and children so if maintenance comes from absent parent then it should reduce benefits by similar amount ie offset it I was under the impression that it works that way now, but I could be wrong, as I've never received any payments from the womb donor anyway. (carefully checks spelling, as does'nt want to put pressure on the dunce cap supply, or the pedants ever increasing workload) | |
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/5/2008 1:34:48 AM | c s a doesnt work ,waste of time . i have never had a penny off my kids mum do i care no not really ,not a problem just have to do that thing called work that a lot of single parents have forgotton about .
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| Radical changes For the CSA. Posted: 9/5/2008 7:05:09 AM |
The CSA is a complete and utter waste of time. I keep contacting them with my daughters fathers name and address and plaxe of work and they keep telling me he doesnt work where i am saying. I know for a fact where he lives and where he workd and they do nothing.
Even the CSA woud struggle with this one, as you clearly state in the benefits thread that the father of your daughter died when she was 4 weeks old, whats it gonna be poster? The sympathy vote or the indignation, cant have it both ways, either way you are telling lies to either big yourself up for withdrawing the claim, or wanting sympathy on the forum, if its the latter, I hope your daughter never finds out what you are saying about her dad, its the lowest you can sink to score points on a forum debate! Some sort of response is due, bad time to go shy on us now. | |
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