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Posted: 8/10/2008 4:43:16 AM | Well I have read this thread in its entirity.. o where to start.. There are some angry, hurt, misguided feelings here.
It is sad that in this day and age with this tool called the internet there are still many misguided, undersupported sufferers about.
Im sorry to any one who has had a negative experience with someone who also has this disease.. For all the negative you can be assured there are many more positive.
Bi Polar disorder... there are two types.. one and two... also a co existing condition called Cyclothamia (rapid cycle.)
A bi Polar persons mood does not change hourly, daily but more often weekly or monthly. The highs are tremendous and fullfilling many bi polars do not want to loose this edge , and can be reluctant to take lithium for this reason. The most effective form of treatment is Cognitive Thearapy with the aid of medication this helps them moderate and watch triggers that occur..
jim carrey, robin williams, spike milligan, jean claude van damn
Ludwig Beethoven, van gogh, francis ford coppalla
Winston Churchill, buzz aldran, Sting, theodore roosevelt
Patricia Cornwell, Edga Allen Poe. Sir Issac Newton...
to name a very few.....
So if you have this illness your in fine company. And I for one would love to have lunch with, hang out with, love or live with any of these people.
Now it has to be said...
LEARNT BEHAVIOUR...
Family envioroments.. where you grow up, who you grow up with , who influences you
the old addage...
"If a child lives with criticism, he learns to condemn…
"If a child lives with hostility, he learns to fight…
etc etc you know the one . (http://www.empowermentresources.com/info2/childrenlearn-long_version.html)
The way each of us was raised impacts on how we interact with one and other.. natuarally having a disease like bi polar has its challanges.
You have had a bad experience with someone who also happens to have bi polar.. who do you hold accountable them or the disease.
Most bipolars medically diagnosed by QUALIFIED health proffesional not there local GP... Have access to alot of proffessional support but are more than capable of functioning to a fantastic level and are the most inspiring talented and intelligent people you will ever meet.
Often with hieghtened senses and reactions to stimulation. .... this is what the manic phase reacts too. It is controlling the stimulation and triggers that ONLY therapy helps with. Lithium merely takes an edge off. Does not remove outside stimulous.
A number of years ago it was established that there is a genetic componant involved. But this is not always the case.
In the most recent of research it has been proven in clinical studies as well as double blind that Omega 3 fish oils both when combined with meds like lithium and / or on thier own make a significant differnce.
It is also common for anti depressives to be over perscribed along side lithium when the sufferer is down.. which in fact causes more issues for the sufferer.
All bi polars should have cognitive therapy firstly - from a PROFFESSIONAL.
Secondly exercise has a significant impact on leveleing of moods.
Omega 3 fish oil
Medications.
If you had a "nut case" of a exwife / step parent, gf, bf, what ever..you had just that you didnt have a diabetic, bipolar, epileptic or any other disease. I am sorry you had this experience .. but to caste a wide net of distain and disrespect for a disease that clearly you and the sufferer are ill informed and or undersupported .. it needs to be addressed.
You simply had a dysfunctioning adult who need a kick up the pants, therapy, medication and support. If they choose to not do it.. then they did not theyre disease..
Yes .. it is the responsibility of every adult sufferer to recieve therapy, take meds, weather it be fish oil or perscribed. | |
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Posted: 8/10/2008 5:01:43 AM | | HI MY DAUGHTER IS BIPOLAR OR ANOTHER WORD MANIC DEPRESSANT.OK YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO STICK UP TO HER I SUGGEST DOING SO YOU RESPECT YOUR FATHER SHE HAS TO EARN YOUR RESPECT.PUT HER IN HER PLACE .MEDICATION MY DAUGHTER IS BETTER NOT BEING ON IT THE MEDS CAUSE THE TEMPER AND ANGER.YOU DO ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF INFO YOU CAN GET OFF THE INTERNET TO LEARN ABOUT THIS DISORDER.IT IS BAD BUT IT STILL NO EXCUSE NOT TO STICK UP FOR YOURSELF SHE IS A STEP MOTHER NOT YOUR MOM PUT HER IN HER PLACE USE THE F WORD A LOT JUST ONCE YOU WILL GET YOUR POINT ACCROSS BETTER WITH HER TRUST ME ON THIS THIS IS A WORD THEY ALL USE FLUENTLY AND UNDERSTAND IT GOOD LUCK | |
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Posted: 8/10/2008 5:07:12 AM |
Ok yes everyone here needs to do more research on this disorder. You are all a$$holes. Did you ever consider that her dad's fiance was just a B*tch? And for everyone information, Bipolar disorder isn't a mental illness. Its a biological illness just like heart disease or diabetes. The only reason people THINK its a mental illness is because its treated like one.
How about you educate your ignorant selves and look at people and not the label. Some people are a$$holes without bipolar, so really get a life. And Saveyourself69, you are the most ignorant and pompous a$$ I have ever come across in my life. Why are you even on this site? "Not single/not looking" ???? You're 30, grow the F up!
Damnation! That sounds like the kind of hostile, venomous spew that I used to get from my ex, who has Borderline Personality Disorder. Knew everything and talked to everyone like they were dogs to assure herself that her point was driven home...
Of course, even without a disorder, as you pointed out, some people are just...
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Posted: 8/10/2008 5:34:48 AM | Yep......just give it a little time and the venom spews. Mentally ill persons are extremely defensive if you touch on the subject. They get very aggressive and will jump in your face and try to have you cower in fear with their aggression. They lose all sense of intellect when they are angry and then they calm down so quickly (its scary!) and are the most apologetic....or they pretend they did nothing and try to gloss over it. If you try to speak to them about their behavior, they will not want to talk about it. They then try to find others to blame for their outburst.......will never take responsibility for their actions.
If you are someone who can put up with that behavior and their abuse.....I say go for it and good luck............. but dont be mad at people who are scared of them and will have nothing to do with them. Everyone in life is entitled to his own feeling and opinions and it is not up to anyone else to tell them they should not feel that way. You have a right to defend your position but the minute you start attacking others for their....then it smacks of something not being right with you.
As I have always said.............I hope everyone meet their perfect match and if a bipolar person is your perfect match......go for it.......but dont blame others who run. | |
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Posted: 8/10/2008 7:01:34 AM |
this is what i know about bipolar disorder. They are delusional. They always think people are after them.
Kit, this is an excellent description for people who have Schizophrenia!! Use the internet for something besides dating once in awhile.  | |
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Posted: 8/10/2008 8:05:44 AM | | ..i would only date a b/p girl if she was hot!!...wait a minute i did that already..and she screwed guys behind my back,and pulled a knife on me...nevermind. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 3:56:02 PM | | Bi-polar disorder, can be controlled with medication, and therapy. Usually different kinds and combinations of medicine must be tried before the correct "recipe" for the particulare individual can be found. Sometimes on the first try. Bi-polar people live in manic cycles (some every 5, or 7 years). The up side of the cycle is like being on coke, they feel invincible, and they like the feeling, of course when the down side of the cycle hits, it's like coming off of the ultimate "high". This is why so many bi-polar people don't like the meds when they are in the up cycle. How do I know this, I have 2 sisters, 1 brother, and my mother are bi-polar. But as with any form of mental illness or "addiction", the person needs to admit to themselves that there is a problem, because if they feel they don't have a problem, then they won't take the medication. It is a form of depression, (though at time they may sound schizophrenic). But in answer to your question, all that you can do is to support your dad, and when he isolates himself, just let him know that you are there if he needs you. But remember, it doesn't have to come between you, you need to be more understanding when he pushes you away, and be there when he doesn't. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 4:04:49 PM | My mother was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder when I was about 13 years old. She took her meds for about a year and everything seemed fine. She decided to stop taking them because they took away her highs - which was the problem for the family.
When she's in a manic phase she has huge dillusions of grandure and makes huge errors in judgement - she has trouble holding down a job, she has been evicted from 2 houses in the past 5 years (as has her boyfriend) so they move from motel to motel since no one will rent to them anymore. I decided to cut ties with her for the most part when she became a really bad example to my (then) 11 year old daughter. The straw that broke the camels back was when her boyfriend hit on me online and she became angry with me for telling her rather than with him for cheating.
Because she refuses to take her meds she has isolated herself from the rest of the family and unfortunately she can't see what is wrong in her situation. I don't know if what I just shared helps but I do hope you can find some peace for yourself. You dad is grown and should know by now what his consequences are if he stays with her. Is she on medication? Does it seem to be helping?
Good luck to you and your family! | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 4:07:53 PM | | Damon - perhaps you should do a little research before you start up with the name calling. In the DSM V it is classified as a mental health disorder. Bi-polar disorder (aka manic depression) is a biological mental health disease just as schizophrenia is. It has an organic base in the body but it has to do with your thought processes. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 4:33:03 PM | My ex-girlfriend said she had Anxiety, but I think she was bipolar because I looked it up on the internet. By the way she had a Therapist it helped a little not much though that is because I don’t think she did what the woman told her to do. And one more problem people who are like this have is they don’t keep taking their Medication. That was because her brother told me she would think she was alright and stop taking them.
By the way she was the exact way you say this woman was she would want money out of me all the time. And spend it on things not needed a lot to she could not stay on a job because she would get fired due to her condition.
I would end up in fights with her all the time over small things usually because she wanted more money out of me though. All she had to do was what the Therapist said to do and take her Meds, which she would not. That creates more problems then it would have to begin with.
That and if she would have not been spending money like it is a weed growing all over the place. I do not know if this woman spent money in an irresponsibly manner like she did I think some do that like she did to me. That made her think all my money was hers and it wasn't I ended it when she got my Social Security Number I called a number for equifax to put a fraud watch on it. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:41:43 PM | | My brother is bipolar and frankly,does not try to isolate his girlfriend at all.His last girlfriend actually tried to isolate him and succeeded at it for almost 8 years until she cheated on him and broke it off.so really,it depends on the person i think. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 10:41:31 PM | My son was diagnosed as bipolar fifteen years ago. He was 15 years old at the time. (I was going through a divorce at that time, which profoundly affected my son.) He has struggled with this mental illness ever since then. Whenever he gets off his medication, he takes a nose dive with depression and his thinking becomes confused. In order to function as normally as possible, he must not only stay on his MEDICATION, but he also must get PROFESSIONAL COUNSELING as well to help him stay focused and in reality. Many people that are bipolar are prone to having bad tempers and more prone to violence.
If your dad is serious about possibly marrying this woman, then he (and also you) need to become educated on dealing with a bipolar personality. In general, they are NOT EASY to live with because of the drastic mood swings and bouts of depression.
I hope that everything works out for you and your dad. You should tell him that relationships with women may come and go, but relationships with your children are forever!! God Bless, Take Care. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 10:49:42 PM | Apparently, some on here think of a person with a mental illness as other than human: that they have no feelings, are like animals: WRONG!! How dare anyone treat another human in that manner.
Note the word "Illness". this is an Illness,. It is not a game, it can be a life of dome and gloom unless treated correctly. Those of us that work in the medical fields realize that persons with Bi-polar (Bi, meaning two) disorder can be as productive and orderly as those who do not suffer from the illness. The two broad aspects of this disorder is depression and mania. One may go into a deep depression for a period of time, ( there is no time frame here, each case is different): have a plateau for a period and then go into mania, where they do things excessively. The excessive behaviors can be almost anything, buying, spending, sexual relationships, cleaning, the list goes on and on. Bi-polar is sucessfully treated with medications if taken correctly and the dose is adjusted.
The big surprise to most is when they find out someone they know, who seems perfectly "normal" discloses that they are bipolar and on meds. so, many that it is unbelievable. There are many sucessful professional who have this disorder and no one knows about it, because it is under control with medications. Have seen doctors, lawyers, church clergyman, etc. that are Bi-polar.
So, Please don't assume that all persons with Bi-polar are going to "go off" at any tme. I have cared fot persons with mentally illness for an extended period of time, most were very loving, caring people.
Your step mother could be Bi-Polar, but there probably is another issue also.
For those that have used all the negative, insulting, uneducated, cruel remarks regarding those with a mental illness: you may need to see someone for the hostility.
Yes, when dating someone with Bi-polar disorder, you will have periods of elevated or deflated moods. but that can be overcome by medication and good strong support. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 7:18:36 AM | If your Dad is dysfunctional, dealing with someone who suffers from bipolar disorder will make him even more dysfunctional.....because there is no cure, and many people who are bipolar refuse to take their medicine....
You need to take care of YOURSELF, and not be codependent with either your father or his girlfriend, or you'll end up getting "sick"yourself. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 10:57:09 AM | "Margo1".... in many cases people with bi polar disorder do become delusional. It is a symptom that is shared by people suffering from both bi polar and schizophrenia. However it would usually manifest in a severe manic phase in bi polars, in an unmedicated schizophrenic they would be delusional (psychotic) most of the time.
As "bitohoney" said, every bi polar episode is different....and unfortunately from what Ive read on this very site, it seems that in the USA people with BPD are getting diagnosed with Bi Polar. The mental health service over here in the UK seem to exercise alot more caution before diagnosis is given.
Oh and Saveyourself69 Id rather spend a lifetime with a person suffering with Bi polar than spend 10 mins your your company. How can you generalise so blatently??? Its like saying all men are queer. Quite simply a load of bollox. Lets not forget that mental illness can affect ANYONE; anyone with a brain, and karma has a great way of repaying badminded people like you!
And because OP stated at one point that she thought your posts on here were the best I have no sympathy for her either.  | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:11:21 AM | | I wouldn't allow the diagnosis to give the person permission to treat others like crap. There are mean, nasty people with diseases and mean, nasty people without diseases. Why isn't your dad standing up for you? He has become an enabler for her behavior. Whether you care to admit it or not, he bears some responsibility for keeping such an evil person around. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:23:53 AM | Damn she needs to be checked for being schizoid!! I've lived with bipolar all of my life. I was diagnosed with manic depression in 1992. Manic depression/bipolar are basically the same thing.No not all bipolar people/women are like that. I know I'M NOT. Yes I take my meds faithfully every morning;no it isn't pretty when I run out, BUT I make sure that I'm able to keep my meds clinic appointments so that I DON'T run out. This woman sounds evil as hell. Do you ever get a chance to talk to your dad alone? I would. If your dad doesn't realize it, which he'd have to be blind not to realize it, that this is affecting your relationship with him tell him. Let him know how you feel. I'm not "Dr Phil", but I do have bipolar since it is hereditary, so I know how I am. I do NOTget violent with other people unless they get violent with me first, then I defend myself. I hope this helps you! Good luck! | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:30:52 AM | Thank you for saying that! As a bipolar person I've talked to many men who "ran for the hills" when I told them that I am bipolar, & they missed out on what might have been a very loving relationship for them. Alot of people are very negative towards bipolar people. I would love to shake your hand & buy you a drink (it doesn't have to be alcoholic either)!!  | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 1:10:40 PM | I was married to a bipolar man for seven years and know too well how they can make any rational human being question their own sanity. There really isn't anything quite like it, and no one can really understand what interactions with such a person are like unless they've experienced it themselves. Medication does help, but doesn't entirely solve the problem. People can have "breakthrough" manias, and the medications can alter the person's personality so that they are a seemingly non-communicative, bland individual devoid of personality.
My advice to you is this: 1) Quit trying to "reason" with the individual. It is pointless. 2.) Draw your OWN boundaries of how you will be treated and SITCK to them. State your perception of an event, how you EXPECT to be treated and if doesn't happen WALK OUT THE DOOR. (I always say I fight best with my coat. I put it on and leave.) 3.) Visit your dad alone.....elsewhere.....without interference. You need to explain that you find it intolerable to be around this woman any longer and have chosen NOT to. You deserve to have your own relationship with your dad. If HE can't agree to that, he is the one that is losing out of a relationship with his only daughter.
It's funny, even when I employed the "rules of non-engagement" and at times even AGREED with my ex, he would still manage to become unglued and unhinged. It really is a severe mental illness....the "non trusting" you issue is not so much a symptom of schizophrenia as it is paranoia which can co-exist with both illnesses. You will not and cannot change this person's behavior. All you can do is decide HOW YOU will respond to it. Also realize how sad it is for this individual to have to live their life this way. Although my ex did considerable damage to me, my psyche and my kids (the bipolar illness was the sole cause of our divorce), the only feelings I have for him now are of pity and compassion. He has a truly sad and lonely existence.
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Posted: 8/31/2008 5:39:12 PM |
People can have "breakthrough" manias, and the medications can alter the person's personality so that they are a seemingly non-communicative, bland individual devoid of personality.
Sometimes during "breakthrough" manias, meds can be increased.....what some people don't realize, is that once the manic episode is over, chances are, the meds can be lowered again. If someone is acting like they have been lobotomized, chances are, they are overmedicated, and could possibly be o/d ing.....best thing to do is get your blood level checked. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 10:42:14 PM | | Bipolar people are bad news to get involved with. In 1998, I dated agirl for about 4 months who was bipolar. She did a lot of crazy things in her life and and enjoyed telling me about them. She was actually just using me to get even with her ex boyfriend. ONce I found that out, I got rid of her. Never again | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:46:23 AM | Something else Ive noticed is that people self diagnosed their ex's as having bi polar when really all they have been dealing with is someone who is moody and awkward by nature  | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 2:07:31 AM | My reply has almost nothing to do with this thread other than the topic sentence, but after reading this topic for a few days my head was about to explode and I just had to let it out so, here goes.
The proper terminology for the disorder is Bipolar Disorder, or Manic Depression. Bipolarism is not even a word, let alone a medical term. If you are going to be able to cope with someone who is severly Manic Depressive you should at least know what the actual diagnosis is so you can do research and better understand the disorder so you can be more supportive. If you can't even put the time into doing the research about the disorder someone you care about has been diagnosed with, then there is no reason for you to even try and work it out. | |
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