The cause for homosexuality is quite simple. It's a choice.

Again I'm not saying gays are wrong, I am saying they all choose it,

More is known about homosexuality in men than in women, whose sexuality appears more fluid. The consensus now is that people are "born gay," as the title of a recent book by Rahman and British psychologist Glenn Wilson puts it.

One way or another the person made a choice just like you did. (Whatever choices you made.)

And then society begins to break down.

I want to also point out why psychology/psychiatry would lead you to believe it's genetic or a chemical imbalance. It's for profit! They want you to believe they can do something about it if you throw enough money at them. They invent some drug or therapy that does nothing but make them money. It's a fantasy they put up to make money. They have no pathological proof that any of this is genetic or a "chemical imbalance of the brain".

So should a woman have the right to abort a "gay fetus"?

Now they want to legalize that if it somehow survives, or you decide when it leaves the womb, it can be killed, thats called ****ing murder, and Obama is all for it, which is one of many reasons I dislike the man and would vote for Naider before him. So, I too wish i could kill O bama

you never answered my post, you never "brought it" How do you justify abortion, simple as that, justify it, I want to see you try.

So should a woman have the right to abort a "gay fetus"?

I personally don't care whether people are gay or not, but if you come hittin on me, I don't care what you are (unless female) You will get punched, hard. i'll leave it at that.

How phenomenally ignorant of you! No, make that magnanimously foolish! Some are homosexuals by choice, some are homosexuals because life and circumstances made them so, some are homosexuals because of genetic or factors surrounding their conception, and some are homosexual sometimes and other times not. There is no one "way to become gay". Except to the terminally clueless, bigoted, and truly ignorant.

^^^^We don't often see eye to eye, but SI gets a big "Amen" from me.

Just for the record, I would hope that just because we don't see eye to eye on any other subjects doesn't mean there's negativity or hostility between us (or anyone else whom I will aggressively debate for that matter).

As a quote I've read once said, conversing with like minded people is the equivalent of intellectual masturbation; it's people with differing opinions that produce interesting conversation where ideally people are learning something new

Thanks, romanticoptimist

Just for the record, I would hope that just because we don't see eye to eye on any other subjects doesn't mean there's negativity or hostility between us (or anyone else whom I will aggressively debate for that matter).

Raven I think you have confused two posters here.
In know way do I advocate the killing of anyone associated with abortion.

Will she be selfish, and have the baby, saving herself from an eternity in Hell?
Or selfless, and abort, saving the child from this fate?

Parents are choosing to accept only "designer babies". Thatn is babies that mimmic only the treaits they desire if a baby has any slight defect or tracer genes it can be aborted.
Theoretically homosexuality which has study's have shown can be identified through tracer genes in the womb could be eliminated by aborting these fetuses that show the tracer genes.

Is that ok?

No study has actually proven any genetic link to homosexuality and none have been repeated and all three were conducted by men who are all self-proclaimed homosexuals. Do the math.

It's stuff like this that keeps me coming back for more

The particular arguement that really interests me, though, is those who think being homosexual is a choice; they therefore should be able to tell us when they were attracted to both sexes (or perhaps none) and decided to only be attracted to one.

No study has actually proven any genetic link to homosexuality and none have been repeated and all three were conducted by men who are all self-proclaimed homosexuals. Do the math.


Again, your citations are credible, but it does not address the fact that they were not disproven either. The fact remains that many homosexuals have stated that they knew they were such as far back as they can remember. How does one logically assimilate these narratives into the accepted Biblical dogma that it is a sin? I know it certainly made me think that the Biblical God is a mean god indeed to create people who will never be accepted unless they deny one of the very essences of their being/sexuality. What is the Biblical solution for this??? If God provides salvation for everyone, what is the solution?

In the future there will be designer babies, where gene traits can be swapped out... Example, Bu polar, homosexuality, blue eyes verse brown, blonde hair, et al, can all be swapped out.

But just say, in the future, parents are able to identify exactly what traits their unborn child will inherit? What will the anti homosexual proponents do with this paradoxical dilemma??

Seriously though, I can see people trying to do this, doing it in secret, but I cannot realistically imagine this happening as a matter of course among mainstream society.

Or, maybe they'll be like Cheney and use it to their political advantage. ;) "see, while we hate homosexuality, we're such loving forgiving people we even allowed our own gay baby to live. It's just another example of what wonderful people we are."