| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 4:31:15 AM | | so is there a particular reason why youre asking if being intellectual is no longer attractive? I mean you say you dont 'rub your intellect in peoples faces' but yet you posted this thread without any reference to what youre talking about...confusing.....I read about the above mentioned streetcar comment, but it still did not make any sense. So, other than fully contradicting yourself...what are you really asking?? Did you just throw the question out there so women can swoon over how much they love intellectual men and you, in turn feel better about yourself. Im confused. Normally when people have a question, they have some sort of example or situation to back it up more, otherwise youre just getting a bunch of open ended generic answers. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 4:39:36 AM | | I don't know where the "no longer" keeps coming in. There has never been a time when women preferentially chose bookish or intellectual type guys over any other kind. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 4:41:42 AM | My question was just that.. Is being an intellectual no longer attractive. I was just wanted to get other peoples opinion see if it backed up what i thought. I don't really need references if I'm just curious do I?
second A streetcar named desire is a play written by Tennessee Williams, it was then made into a movie. Now its debatable who the main character of the play really is, but one of them is named Stella. And in one scene Stanley (Stella's husband) drunk and beaten yells out her name.. Stelllllllaaa .. this was really made famous by Marlon Brando in 1951 ( I think)
And this forum went off topic a little bit and wont last another day.. I really just wanted to get other peoples opinions on the topic. I was Asking a Girl, and some guys.. Thank you again for your input. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 4:50:22 AM | I can no longer typer or spell at this point. I need sleep.. but I leave the question open..
and hey I'm sure Aristotle got his fair share of tail in his day.. ( wait does that even make sense. ) | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 4:51:01 AM | | I value intelligence highly and find it attractive. I will take a smart guy over a great looking dumb guy! But, regardless, if the guy is intelligent but arrogant and looks down his nose at people -- forget him. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 5:25:34 AM | | About the Stella comment... The woman has heard the reference over and over and over and over and over and over her entire life. I guarantee that it's old to her. So unless you put a clever new spin on it, you surely came across as unoriginal. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 5:26:27 AM | No matter what the obviously brilliant individual in the second post says, most of us do value intelligence. I don't like talking to someone who is like talking to a stump. If I can't carry on a conversation with you about something besides football or NASCAR, I don't have much use for you.
The only time "intelligence" becomes a problem is if that's ALL there is to you. You've got to also have a personality and know how to have fun. I can't take someone who is so deadly serious all the time. If all you want to talk about is your work, or your education, or how brilliant you are, yeah, we are going to be pretty bored pretty fast.
I don't worry much about someone making me feel stupid, since I already know I'm not stupid. So maybe it's only stupid women who don't like intelligent men. If you like stupid women, then you aren't going to find women who like intelligent men. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 6:00:26 AM | | Good point, Jim...not so much about when to shut up, but someone who has some COMMON SENSE. I am not nearly as impressed with someones book-smarts as I am with just how much sense they have. I do like an intelligent man, but I also acknowledge that there's a such thing as an "educated idiot." | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 6:11:48 AM | | I'm right there with you Steph. You also gotta have enough sense that you never let your ego get in the way. No matter how book smart or intelligent you THINK you are. It takes TWO minds to make a relationship work. Unfortunately, some people don't spend enough time getting to know how the other persons mind works and that's when problems start to arise. And that's not very intelligent. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 6:28:49 AM | Personally I find "intellect" a massive turn on. Contrary to the opinion of the seemingly self-appointed "Misogynistic Oracle" on here, as a woman I value it above all else. It trumps physical appearance for me pretty much every time. And it makes a man more attractive to me every time.
"smart good.. smart ass bad." So true, so true! Instant turn off. And instant pass on a profile or email that comes across that way.
"It is not just the amount of knowledge that one has stored in soft Grey Matter but the willingness, and drive to learn more.
Thats what i love in a woman, as well as other things." And that's what I love in a man, as well as other things. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 8:47:23 AM |
I know for me intelligence is a must when I'm looking for a partner.
Some women value intelligence and some don't. You can't generalize too much because we all have different preferences.
There are different types of intelligence. I know several people with lots of education and knowledge in specific fields who have very poor social skills. And when it comes to "emotional intelligence" some very smart men are very dumb. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 9:06:26 AM | | Having brains and being an "intellectual" can be two different things. Most of those I have met that describe themselves as "intellectuals" choose the word as a form of elitism. Since I often work on the cutting edge of science and technology, I can say that I have met some absolutely brilliant men (and women). I love the brainy guys, but not the snotty intellectuals. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 9:25:11 AM | All of the men I have been in relationship with have been intelligent and curious. I look for compatibility in conversation and that primarily comes down to what grabs us in the world. There are some extremely intelligent people who have overriding fascinations with things that are of little interest to me; that makes us a poor match even if we also appreciate each others' minds.
So you may be attributing the source of disinterest incorrectly... might be nothing more than a disinterest in opera. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 9:36:28 AM | K!!!
Smart, spiritual, and "meaty" men are HOT! (hey, sounds like your profile! :)
Don't change, because intelligence with spirituality is the number one attraction to WOMEN who KNOW a great man when they see him. Just hang in there....you are still young. :)
Loved the "Stella" comment....can you imagine if you met her in person and yelled her name like Brando did??? Haha | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 9:48:13 AM | Jim, something tells me you learned that the hard way....
Oh yeah. Took a few lumps to get it into my thick skull but I'm much better for it.
It's the same as letting someone know what you want and giving them the time to decide if they want it too. Just don't force anything onto anybody and things have a way of working out for the better. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 10:07:04 AM | Are you sure you are intelligent and not c0cky??
I'm sure it must be difficult, if you are a smart man, you want everyone to know... but have met quite a few very smart guys (smart=sexy mm!!!) who were just too boastful about it, I couldn't stand to be around them!  | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 10:09:19 AM | personally, I am extremely intelligent, yet have never had a date. I am objective enough, however, to realize that it is not my formidable intellect which "turns" women off. Rather it is my incessant paranoia, sadism, and vindictiveness. And oh yeah, my obsessive "stalkerish" behavior.
P.S. And yes, I do appreciate the humbling irony if I happened to spell anything incorrectly in this response, so please don't bother pointing that out. I am just too lazy to proofread my posts after I type them.  | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 11:37:57 AM |
With respect, perhaps you DO (unconsciously) "rub it in peoples (sic) faces". Not sayin' you do; but, you really should get the opinions of others about that.
Being an intellectual is not just having warehoused an extensive body of facts, or even knowing how to apply them. It's being able to step back and let somebody else bask in the glory of being the "brains" once in a while, even if you know they're doing something in other than the most expedient manner.
Arlö
Alro, this is what I call intuitiveness, and this is what REALLY makes a person attractive. Intelligence isn't enough on it's own, because intelligence can come side to side with a boring kind of arrogance. The wisest people of all are those who know they will never need to stop learning, therefore the wisest people of all are the most attractive IMO. | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 11:51:12 AM | I don't think that labelling yourself as intellectual has ever been attractive, has it?
Smartness is as smartness does -- what do you DO with your brains? Do you use them to make the world a nicer place to be? If not, is that intelligence? | |
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| Is being an intellectual no longer attractive ?
Posted: 8/15/2008 11:56:08 AM |
I am extremely intelligent, yet have never had a date. I am objective enough, however, to realize that it is not my formidable intellect which "turns" women off. Rather it is my incessant paranoia, sadism, and vindictiveness. And oh yeah, my obsessive "stalkerish" behavior.
It's refreshing to see a guy who doesn't blame others for his problems. | |
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