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 cotter

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Troops support Obama by 6 to 1
Posted: 11/4/2008 11:33:00 AM

As for my family and friends in the service..THEY ALL GOT THEIR BALLOTS AND HAVE VOTED.....


Ya ... that doesn't surprise me ... they're no doubt all registered Republicans. DUH!!!!
 dmotz

Joined: 7/25/2006
Msg: 77
Troops support Obama by 6 to 1
Posted: 11/4/2008 11:38:00 AM
Why are you so afraid of the truth? Your just an angry democrat...I think that if the Bama wins you will be changing your tune within 6 months...unless you like socialism...I bet you do!
 cotter

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Posted: 11/4/2008 12:00:59 PM
Anyone who has ever worked for the government ... state ... county ........... knows that they are all over voter registrations like flies on Sh!t. I know way too many who have lost their jobs for no good reason when the elections cause a shift in who's in charge.

My daughter was in the military and told me how much leverage that voter registration was worth.

Almost reminds me of the stories I heard while living in Germany several years ago. The old folks used to sit around and talk about the war ... and how important it was back then when you got drafted and they went through the lines and asked if you and your family were members of the Nazi party.

My brother-in-laws can tell you exactly what it was like to have to stand there and say "NO" ... their family was NOT a member of the Nazi party. Back then, different favors in the military were passed out according to your party affiliation. Weekend passes ... even food rations.

I have the impression that it's no different in our own military. From what my daughter tells me ... the best way to go is to register as an "Independent" ... that way, they can't get you for anything but wanting to vote. She should know ... she was an officer ... Weapons Intelligence and served in the Middle East.
 78outdoorsguy

Joined: 1/5/2008
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Troops support Obama by 6 to 1
Posted: 10/23/2009 12:18:57 PM
The troops support President Obama 6 to 1?

I'm not to sure about that anymore. General McCrystal seems to be a bit frustrated. I do hope that Obama holds true to his promise to pull the troops out of Iraq in August 2010. But that could very well be a 'pipe dream'. We will more then likely have plenty delay's in the Iraq troop withdrawl. Just look at Guantanamo Bay. Obama pledged to close it by January 1st 2010. Here we are in late October 2009 and hardly anything has been done to close gitmo.

On a off note. Ron Paul was also very popular with the military. More popular with the military then McCain. Paul and Obama raised the most money from the military for their 2008 presidental runs.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/military-donors.html

http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2007/07/17/ron-paul-leads-all-08-candidates-with-one-third-of-military-contributions-for-q2/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-09-13-military-donors_N.htm
 cotter

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Posted: 10/23/2009 8:04:56 PM


The troops support President Obama 6 to 1?
I'm not to sure about that anymore.
Why wouldn't they support him ... he's actually in the process of bringing them all home ...

Ya know ... for someone who is so eager to see OBAMA fail and is so eager to see the troops become "OBAMA haters" ... why aren't you serving? You could be so much more effective at cheering on the troops to become "OBAMA haters" if you were right over there serving along with them ... eh?

I wanted to sign up ... the recruiters came to see us while I was in nursing school (age 48) ... but they are too picky and won't take an old fart like me. So I'm left here to take care of the wounded as they return home.

I have yet to encounter any service person that I take care of who supports the war ... who doesn't support OBAMA. They hate "the Shrub" for getting us into it all and are looking forward to OBAMA putting an end to it.
 jack-d-ripper

Joined: 2/25/2008
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Posted: 10/23/2009 10:28:10 PM
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General McCrystal seems to be a bit frustrated.


Please let us know how you Know this Fact?


How long does it take to move 300 men from Cuba? The only problem.....some people soooooooooooo afraid.

Last count there are 100 or so Terrorist locked up in Colorado.... Pretty scary...


The Cheney Brass is making waves for Obama....... I won't be long before a few Old Boys will retire............
Many should have their butts kicked for creating the crap we have now....

Today it was announced persons Stop lossed 2001 up will get a Bonus pay....

That really sucks? Where are the Budget Hawks?.....


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 78outdoorsguy

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Posted: 10/23/2009 11:00:24 PM
In regards to post 80

I did 6 years in the Army reserves as a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter mechanic. MOS-15T

In regards to post 81


Please let us know how you Know this Fact?

I used the word "SEEMS" which means this is just my observation.

And I fully support a withdrawal from Iraq, Afghanistan and all other nations in which US Forces are based(Germany, South Korea)

I think we should pull the troops from places like Germany and put them on our borders. We can keep out the drugs and the illegals and those troops would also stimulate the border states local economy

And I fully support a Gitmo closing. That being said I also fully expect President Obama to be true to his word and accurate with his Gitmo closing date and Iraq war pullout. Should not take long to move those 300 men from Gitmo as Jack D Ripper right fully pointed out.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/23/2009 11:32:48 PM
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I am crack up when hear them talk down the abilities of the Federal Prison system...
then Talk crap like the detainees would be released to serve lunch at a grade school....

However the baggage left over in Afghanistan is not a walk away... Reminds me of Vietnam... The whole region is a mess.........
If we split .. Pakistan will not do well... They have over 60 nukes and delivery systems....
Not a good prospect. This should have been dealt with...............

This is my problem with McCrystal....Here is a Site for COP Keating...........

Battle participant: “most people back home dont even know, no one gives a sh!t”

http://burnpit.legion.org/

McCrystal's name is all over the Tillman cover up...KIA .....Afghanistan....


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 cotter

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Posted: 10/26/2009 8:22:33 AM

How long does it take to move 300 men from Cuba? The only problem.....some people soooooooooooo afraid.

Last count there are 100 or so Terrorist locked up in Colorado.... Pretty scary...
I've worked in various jails in Ohio and Florida.

Personally, I don't see any difference in the terrorist and some of these really big gang leaders we have in jail down in Florida. We keep them contained just fine and since none of them have "super powers" ... can't vaporize themselves and escape ... I honestly don't see the difference in keeping them in the US.

We had all kinds of POW's here during WWII ... my own brother-in-law was a POW here ... captured at Normandy and brought here.

I don't see the danger at all in keeping these so-called terrorists here in lock down if necessary.

If they are concerned that these prisoners might be able to recruit more people from inside the jail ... I really don't see that happening. Terrorists are better able to recruit because of our mistreatment of other prisoners ... i.e. our despicable behavior is a recruiting device for them. That teaches them to hate us and we brought that on ourselves.

While the "Shrub" was in office, troops who did not support him had to keep it quiet or risk being chastised and mistreated ... even death. If in any kind of war zone, they still have to be very careful to voice support for OBAMA because it's so much easier for their fellow troops just to shoot them and claim "friendly fire".

My daughter told me that if you value your life, you just don't say anything about supporting OBAMA. She also said they stop at nothing to check up on you so she never wrote anything down in emails and never spoke about it on the phone either.

She told us how she felt in person before leaving and told us if she died under any kind of suspicious circumstances that we needed to pursue it ... most likely it would be political.

I think it's sad that our service personnel have to have that on their minds as they go into life-threatening situations. So they are supposedly fighting for others to have freedom of speech and they don't have it. To speak their minds would risk death at the hands of their fellow service personnel.

That's why the support for OBAMA is probably much higher than we'll ever know. They just can't safely show or speak their support.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/27/2009 8:55:48 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Tilman was NOT a Bush Supporter,and also complained about Afghanistan. McCrystal aided His Buddy's in the CYA and perverted the motives of a Fine American.

Bush/Cheney/Rummie must feel they are great military minds... How many Army's did Napoleon Abandon?

The Numbers are staggering for Fort Carson, today it appears 8 more KIA, from yesterdays 14, 2 were from Carson. One per day for the month.

After the American Legion opened the Burn Pit site for the story of COP Keating over $150K was raised in 3 days>>>>>

TARGET Matched all items....



Hersh: Military waging war with White House
By Neil Offen
noffen@heraldsun.com; 419-6646

DURHAM — The U.S. military is not just fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, America’s most renowned investigative journalist says.
The army is also “in a war against the White House — and they feel they have [President] Obama boxed in,” Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Seymour Hersh told several hundred people in Duke University’s Page Auditorium on Tuesday night. “They think he’s weak and the wrong color. Yes, there’s racism in the Pentagon. We may not like to think that, but it’s true and we all know it.”
In a speech on Obama’s foreign policy, Hersh, who uncovered the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War and torture at Abu Ghraib prison during the Iraqi war, said many military leaders want Obama to fail.
“A lot of people in the Pentagon would like to see him get into trouble,” he said. By leaking information that the commanding officer in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, says the war would be lost without an additional 40,000 American troops, top brass have put Obama in a no-win situation, Hersh contended.
“If he gives them the extra troops they’re asking for, he loses politically,” Hersh said. “And if he doesn’t give them the troops, he also loses politically.”
The journalist criticized the president for “letting the military do that,” and suggested the only way out was for Obama to stand up to them.
“He’s either going to let the Pentagon run him or he has to run the Pentagon,” Hersh said. If he doesn’t, “this stuff is going to be the ruin of his presidency.”
Hersh called the “Af-Pak” situation — the spreading conflict in Afghanistan and Pakistan — Obama’s main challenge.
The war in Afghanistan has destabilized Pakistan, which has 80 to 100 nuclear weapons, said Hersh, who recently returned from a visit to South Asia. “And the nuclear situation [in Pakistan] is more dire than you could know. It sucks.”
The only way for the U.S. to extricate itself from the conflict, Hersh said, is to negotiate with the Taliban.
“It’s the only way out,” he said. “I know that there’s a lot of discussion in the White House about this now. But Obama is going to have to take charge, and there’s no evidence he’s going to do that.”
While critical of the president on Afghanistan, Hersh, who travels to the Middle East three or four times a year, did praise his foreign policy initiatives toward Iran.
“When it comes to Iran, he’s changed the paradigm,” he said. “[President] Bush always said we’ll negotiate with those duty Iranians about their nuclear enrichment plans when they stop enriching nuclear material. Obama understands there is some room there to maneuver. That’s a huge change.”
He also praised Obama for also changing the paradigm with his decision to shelve plans for a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. Doing that, he said, would help U.S. relations with Russia.
“It’s about time we realize we have a lot in common with the Russians, like worrying about China and global terrorism,” Hersh said.
The missiles, he added, were just a continuation of the Cold War, and “it’s about time for us to capture some of the benefit we were supposed to get from ending the Cold War.”
http://www.heraldsun.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Hersh-+Military+waging+war+with+White+House%20&id=3974209-Hersh-+Military+waging+war+with+White+House&instance=homethirdleft


IMO ....It is Tme for a group of Brass to join the Cheney Speech circuit,OR become Commentators, Or Lobbyist...........

They supported and helped create the Af-Pak situation.........


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 etourdi77

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Posted: 10/27/2009 9:41:05 AM
Not sure what the current polls are showing about troop support for Obama is, but I do know that Americans killed in Afghanistan during Obamas first 10 months is 267 that is a 72% increase compared to all of last year...I think this might effect their support of Obama...
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/27/2009 11:07:58 AM
Obama increased troop numbers almost a 100%, Afghanistan.
Increased casualty numbers?

IMO I question McCrystal....... COP Keating was to have been abandon.......... No real Support.

McCrystal was making a speech in London.

Obama .......
....Stop Loss pay.......... Increased VA funding...........Increase Pay............

Obama at Jacsonville. Sounds like he has the support there...



while I will never hesitate to use force to protect the American people or our vital interests, I also promise you this—and this is very important as we consider our next steps in Afghanistan:
I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm’s way. I won’t risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary. And if it is necessary, we will back you up. Because you deserve the strategy, the clear mission, the defined goals and the equipment and support you need to get the job done. That’s the promise I make to you.
As you meet your missions around the world, we will take care of your families here at home. That’s why Michelle has been visiting bases across the country. That’s why the Recovery Act is funding projects like improvements to your hospital and a new child development center at Mayport. It’s why we’re increasing your pay, increasing child care and helping families deal with the stress and separation of war.
Finally, we pledge to be there when you come home. We’re improving care for our wounded warriors, especially those with Post-Traumatic Stress and Traumatic Brain Injuries. We’re funding the Post-9/11 GI Bill—to give you and your families the chance to pursue your dreams. And we’re making the biggest commitment to our veterans—the largest percentage increase in the VA budget—in more than 30 years.
These are the commitments I make to you; the obligations that your country is honor-bound to uphold. Because you’ve have always taken care of America, and America must always take care of you. Always.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-10-26/story/text_of_president_obamas_speech_at_jacksonville_naval_air_station



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 VVendy

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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:24:45 PM
I'm a brat and if my dad, brother, nephew, niece, who are no longer in uniform still I know that they are never alone. I also have an in law USAF and Army who had to live there until a few months ago. I want to be sure Obama is in charge because he thinks.

I wish people would understand that we put the Taliban in charge of that country we trained Bin-L' and installed SH. We are now feeling nervous about dirty bombs and such in the Middle East but we gave them "atoms for peace". It is true that the persons incharge of that are no longer in office. We minorities of the US can't say it was all done by crazy white men now a black guy will clean it up. We have been able to vote in some states since the 1700's. We all let this happen. We put people there and armed them and we have a responsibility to get it right this time. Our president is not going to back another corrupt leader we need to be sure the people of Afghanistan elect the next guy so we are not responsible for putting up the next leader of a unholy war against us. Good solider Mc made his bid to embarrass his chief so that his general can be in a better position to run in 2012 back fired. Now he is going to have to work harder to earn back the trust he broke.
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:44:58 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^




"Good solider Mc made his bid to embarrass his chief".............


I would support Early Retire..... Just too much right now..........



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 Templar_2

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:52:19 PM
"My daughter was in the military and told me how much leverage that voter registration was worth.

I have the impression that it's no different in our own military. From what my daughter tells me ... the best way to go is to register as an "Independent" ... that way, they can't get you for anything but wanting to vote. She should know ... she was an officer ... Weapons Intelligence and served in the Middle East.

While the "Shrub" was in office, troops who did not support him had to keep it quiet or risk being chastised and mistreated ... even death. If in any kind of war zone, they still have to be very careful to voice support for OBAMA because it's so much easier for their fellow troops just to shoot them and claim "friendly fire".

My daughter told me that if you value your life, you just don't say anything about supporting OBAMA. She also said they stop at nothing to check up on you so she never wrote anything down in emails and never spoke about it on the phone either.

She told us how she felt in person before leaving and told us if she died under any kind of suspicious circumstances that we needed to pursue it ... most likely it would be political.

I think it's sad that our service personnel have to have that on their minds as they go into life-threatening situations. So they are supposedly fighting for others to have freedom of speech and they don't have it. To speak their minds would risk death at the hands of their fellow service personnel.

That's why the support for OBAMA is probably much higher than we'll ever know. They just can't safely show or speak their support."

I just retired from the Military after 27 years and I am going to say that what is posted above about the military hounding you for your political affiliation is absolute and utter crap, in fact, it's an outright lie that people are penalised or punished for being either Democrat or Republican. I voted for Obama as did some others and had friends and fellow service members that voted for McCain; there was no stigma and no hiding in closets afraid for our lives. I see a lot of attacks in these forums and a lot of people claiming to speak or know what the military members do or don't think. Truth is we are just like everyone else, some of us are democrat , some republican, some independent. If you want to claim to speak for us then go right ahead and give yourself a false sense that you know what is going through our minds.. you have the right of free speach and people that i have known over the years died to make sure you have it so say what you want, but how about stop spreading lies or insinuating that we kill each other in battle based on what damm political party we support. Get a clue, in combat we don't give a shit who is President at the time or what damm party they belong to .. we care about surviving and getting home to our families.. period
 78outdoorsguy

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Posted: 11/18/2009 3:58:39 PM
Post #81 Jack d ripper


How long does it take to move 300 men from Cuba? The only problem.....some people soooooooooooo afraid.


Looks like Obama has now admitted that he will miss his promised deadline. I guess its pretty hard to move 300 people after all. At least hard for this administration.
 VVendy

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Posted: 11/19/2009 7:47:03 PM
http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama
Not how I see him but as some do and I wish he was. He can't just let them all go free the people of Il are the only ones willing to take them in and they do not have enough room. Americans kill more Americans than any one in Getmo. What are they so afraid of?
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