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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/15/2008 1:31:19 PM | I am a Libertarian. Conservative about many things. Liberal about many things. Out front in most. 
Woodstar, here's a joke for you and your sister:
One day Adam was particularly frustrated with Eve and he said, "Dear God, why did you have to make this woman so beautiful but so stupid?!"
Eve looked at him and said, "Oh, honey, God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me. And he made me stupid so I would be attracted to you!"  | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/15/2008 6:26:12 PM | | You know God made beer too............... | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/15/2008 7:20:01 PM | ALRIGHTY!!!!
More jokes! Lets bring 'em on!
Wait...I have to open the window...I just saw some fresh air swoop by!!!!!! | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/15/2008 9:01:10 PM | I’ve been wondering why I have let some of huntingals inane comments tick me off to the point that I would vent about it on line. I have to say, I’m not to happy with the argumentative nature that I’ve seen come out in me in the last two posts. Something just struck a nerve in me, and I have been trying to figure out why?
Well I think I finally figured it out. His comments reminded me of the type of thinking I was raised with, and my ex husband. I hate confrontation yet I have to say my last two posts to OP were anything but non-confrontational, and in all honesty I am not happy with how I have come across.
For the life of me I can’t figure out how a man could think some of the things that OP has put on some of his threads. But I suppose I forgot he’s a man, human and fallible.. Just as we all are human and fallible.
We are entitled to our opinions, and I don’t want to be an opinion basher. I have lived long enough to know I don’t always have the answers to life mystery’s. I apologize for my tone.
And I so appreciate everyone that came up with jokes keeping it light. You guys have it right!  | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/20/2008 8:37:32 AM | | That is a good one! Personally, I like independent women. It beats the opposite: dependent. It all just boils down to individual preferences. (I'm still laughing at that last sentence!) | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 12:04:17 PM | Well it's sunday, I'm bored and since I'm a fellow "independent oregonian woman" I thought I'd put my nickel in. Oh and get the thread back on track, ya'll are really good at derailing a thread.  (no offense)
Indepence to me is just a form of survival. Personally I think the term 'independent woman' is abused which should make a guy worry a little bit before getting too attached. But the function of independence is a have to have unless you like a woman who lives on welfare, childsupport and can't stand on her own two feet when life calls for it.
Divorce being put on the woman's head? In my case, yes. He refused to hold a job more then 3 months outta the year and wasn't even smart enough to stay long enough for unemployement. After 7yrs of that you just get tired of it and figure it cost about $800 less a month without him then with him(between car costs, gas, repair, insurance, groceries, video games, etc). So in a sense it's like cutting coupons. Save every penny.
And as for 100yrs ago and divorce being rare. Men were a whole nother bred 100yrs ago. Hard working, ethical human beings instead of the non-working, video game playing, drug snorting individuals they are now. Women could be content atleast knowing the bills would be paid while they raised their kids. Certain amount of value in that.
Nothing wrong with being able to depend on yourself. Better that then the alternative. Doesn't make a woman want a relationship any less. I would think it'd be nice to be just wanted instead of needed anyways. Sure I'd love a guy who'd let me just raise my kids and take care of the family at home, but if he never comes along then I'll just do it my own damn self. Cause I'm an independent woman.  | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 1:54:51 PM | | I think all you guys are just scared! You all say you want an independent woman, then when you meet one of us, you go running with your tail between your legs, afraid to make a commitment. When it all boils down to it, it seems all guys really want is some suck ass show girl, who will tell them how smart they are, how handy they are, and cook their dinner, keep their schedule for them, do their laundry and say, "oh...poor me, I need you..." whenever things go awry. Sorry bubs, but my daddy taught me how to fix my own car, and enjoy it! Guys don't seem to like the fact that I come home dirtier than them, run a crew of men all day, and usually make more money than them. I don't need to come cryin' when my truck breaks down, I have my own wrenches...and, I don't want to be anyone's mommy, nor do I have the time. Seems a guy would think he has it a little easier without some token wife clinging to his arm while he's trying to reach the bottom bolt on the alternator! Now, if you can find a guy who really truelly wants an "equal," then....who knows. Doesn't seem to be any of you out there. Quit being so damn chicken shit and old fashioned. It seems just as important to me to be an independent man, as it does a woman. It goes both ways. Co-dependency in any form is obviously unhealthy. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 9:31:48 AM | Elf Eagle
The way you have just expressed yourself, I would say that you are right about guys. They don't want a woman like you. As a guy, you would be the last type of woman I would want. What guy wants a woman who talks like you, speaks to men as if she is superior to them, a woman who would act like his mother speaking down to him? I'm afraid to say it, but judging by your post, you would be a lot of men's worst nightmare.
Actually, I think you are on the wrong dating sight. It sounds to me like what you really need is another woman just like yourself. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 10:18:00 AM | Wes.......that is your name right?
Where do you get off speaking for me............and the thousands of other men on this site? I have been quiet ..for the most part. Trying only to change the tone of this thread. But here you are again ruffling peoples feathers. I thought maybe you had given up on this but I see that you have not.
And as for the name calling that you have accused a few of us as doing........what would you say that you have just done by saying that elf eagle should be looking for a woman just like herself. It looks pretty plain to me.........READ HER PROFILE. She is not a lesbian!!!
For the most part what I think I'm trying to say here Wes is............... STOP!!!!!!
We here in the Oregon forums have had enough of your so-called friendly banter
SD | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/22/2008 11:11:52 AM | Yikes, Wes! Threatened much?
You go on and on about being such a Christian gentleman, yet you have absolutely no problem objectifying, condescending to and outright insulting women you don't find sexually/romantically attractive. Is this how you think Jesus would treat women?
You talk a lot of the talk, but you sure don't walk the walk. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 12:40:42 PM | I said it once and I'll say it again, A wolf in Sheep's clothing...
I knew it was only a matter of time before the true character would show in Wes.
All the "I'm just asking because I want to stimulate conversation" can't change the real ruse behind the guise has been to stir up confrontation.
However I have to say it saddens me. Why, please tell me why.. (this is rhetorical) do people resort to such tactics when they don't like what they are hearing?
You essentially called the elfeagle a Lesbian... you know that.. and that was your intent. I for one loved her posting and the one before it, by kat0108 and as always have enjoyed Nolachicks insights. Sillydude2 you rock! Thank you for calling him on his stuff!
When you get down to the nitty gritty, we are just people. Male or female. Who cares if a woman considers herself independent? Men and women should both be independent and when you combine them in a healthy relationship, then you seek "interdependence" . Both maintain their own individuality, while bringing their individuality together to create a couple who has their own distinctive individuality as a couple.
I was once on a date with a man when the car started to make noises.. I got out raised the hood and started puttering around trying to see why it was missing.. This was years ago. When you could still see where the spark plugs connected to the engine.. With these new cars.. I sure can’t figure them out. (but I wouldn’t mind learning). I found a loose connector which was just what I expected. I thought it felt like it wasn’t firing on all cylinders. So I fixed it.. We got in the car and the young man sitting next to me was amazed! He was impressed. It didn’t insult his ego. It didn’t make him feel less than. He felt blessed to be dating a woman that knew a bit about cars.
Feel blessed Wes, that we all come from such individual places that we create a society of diverse people that can all learn from each other. Sort of like an “interdependent planet”? But that‘s a whole concept of it‘s own.
Far as I’m concerned, were created to be different. And instead of trying to make someone fit in your box.. Move on.. So you don’t want an independent woman? Who cares? You care, so it matters to you. But please refrain from “throwing out the baby with the bath water” by attaching your ideas of "independent" to the general population of independent women and independent men out there.
There is a phase .. Behind every good man is a good woman… I know most women don’t like the behind part of that .. Now days it would be more politically correct to say ‘beside” but that old saying was expressing the idea that women inspire men to do great things.
And that’s the way it should be. We should both inspire each other to do great things! | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 12:41:14 PM | | Obviously I stuck a weak cord with Mr. Wes. If you felt "Insuperior", in any way by that statement...then, you got issues buddy, and I pitty the women you sucker into your life...The greatest joy I've ever had is gettin' greasy with a man, working on my truck TOGETHER, not worrying that he is going to doubt my judgement when I say, "hey, it would be easier if we do .... first...don't you think". Now, that's equal. A friend, a companion, a lover, a greasy buddy. I in no way have ever, "talked down," to any man in my life. And, dirt or not, I am all woman! Just because I make you wash your own damn socks, doesn't mean I am a "lesbian." So, if the truth hurts...so be it...if you can't deal with it, then you are no man. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 4:40:03 PM | I think it is funny that a woman can talk as unlady-like and condescending to men the way elf-eagle did in the post before I committed the ultimate sin (or so it seems) and you people come back and get on my case. I suspected that would happen.
I have always hated to hear brash women speaking up in their arrogance. But apparently it doesn't bother a few other men to support that kind of non-lady-like behaviour. She has never talked down to a man in her life. Woman, you just did in the letter I originally responded to.
I don't worry about being ganged up on, what by perhaps a dozen different people. I've figured out what people do most the talking here. It definitely isn't the conservatives. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 5:15:08 PM | arrrgggh...this man reminds me of my oldest brother. He is NOT welcomed in my families space (which is predominently christian...I'm the odd duck). I even threatened to shoot him if I ever saw him again.
Haven't seen hide nor hair since.
Here...take that...azzzwipe | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 5:53:04 PM | Dammit! I hate it when guys like this finally push my button.
Going off to meditate on the Highest And The Best For All.
Breathing deeply in ....exhaling deeply out...breathing deeply in...exhaling deeply out. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 6:42:05 PM |
I have always hated to hear brash women speaking up in their arrogance. But apparently it doesn't bother a few other men to support that kind of non-lady-like behaviour.
And I have always hated to hear weak men take out their insecurities on women.
You really have no idea how offensive you are, do you? All this self-righteous b.s. you spout is nothing more than a smokescreen behind which you hide your sleazy agenda. Calling a woman a lesbian, as if that's supposed to be some kind of insult, just because she threatened your fragile masculinity by presuming to speak to you as an equal, is just pathetic.
Here are some things YOU say to women, which are hurtful and show what your real priorities are:
With hundreds or thousands of other women on this site to pick from....many men who are shorter, or even only an inch or two taller than you, won't take it any further than just viewing your profile
With hundeds or thousands of slim, average and shapely women to pick from on this site, what choice do you think a man is going to make?
Weight does matter to men. Think lose the weight to get the date. God made Eve a shapely woman that got Adam's hormones raging immediately.
Who cares whether you can dance? Now if you can't make love, then you have a big problem.
Sell yourself to me with all your good qualities.
I will probably make some women mad by saying this. Weight does matter to most men. Men are turned on visually by a woman's God-given natural shape and beauty. I am not talking about facial beauty
Many men, including myself, are drawn to small women. There is a girlishness about them that gets our fires going.
Maintaining her shape, with its delicious curves, will go a long way toward attracting and keeping men.
Perhaps if you stop treating women like pieces of meat to be used as ornaments, sexual objects or obedient pets and assuming you are in the majority among men, you might get fewer negative responses from both women and the men you presume to speak for. | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/22/2008 7:23:16 PM | YIKES Nola! Where did you get the quote: "many men, including myself, are drawn to small women. There is a girlishness about them that gets our fires going."??? I missed that one....maybe on purpose.
HE IS MY BROTHER....perv. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 7:55:11 PM | Nola,
You do a nice job of pulling things out of their larger context, referring to my quotes. You ought to write speeches.
By the way, go back and count the number of men and women who have responded in any way to any of the things I have posted. It's mainly just you, Woodstar and a few other women and then half a dozen men. I think I could say that your numbers, even though they look like a majority on this thread, are miniscule as compared to the numbers of people on this site.
That's one thing about those of us who write here or letters to the editor in the local paper or anywhere else where we can give our opinion. Giving our opinions is so important to us, but we are so insignificant in the big picture.
You people assume that because you have a tiny following that supports your views here, that I am the outcast and in the minority.
I guarantee you, that very few men would want anything to do with a woman who talks the trash about men, or calls them the things she does, I'm speaking of Eagles Ear, or rear, or whatever it is (I can't see her posts right now). Have a good one. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 8:23:56 PM | Yeah, yeah, blah, blah. I not only don't have a "girlish" body, I don't have a girlish mind either, so that makes me doubly threatening to a man like Hunting Gals (if that's not predatory sounding, I don't know what is.)
I guess big boobs, big mouth and big brain is a bit much for some men. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 8:48:00 PM | | well, sheesh....I guess I rather enjoy speaking brash and unlady-like to people like Hunting-gals! Go find another thread, where all the brow beaten, cowering, man pleasers hang out, cause it obviously isn't here! I think you just like winning, and you like to argue. I think you are an insult to speak for the "majority" of all men! 'Cause, unless they all hide out staring in a mirror all day, telling themselves how wonderful they are....I've met very few like you...And, any respectable man, would stand up to any guy like you speaking to any woman with such disrespect. So, give it up already dude. We all agree that everyone is entitled to their own definition of a man-woman relationship, and their own definition of what kind of woman/man they are attracted to. WE GET IT! You don't like independent women...whaa...boo hoo... life goes on... | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/22/2008 9:26:27 PM | Elf Eagle,
Why don't you go start your own thread. You and the others might want to look at who started this one. I didn't ask you or the others to get on this.
You are one blind woman if you can't see the men bashing you did in your initial post here. All my friends would read that and say, there is a badly damaged woman, with resentment towards men that is neck deep.
What bothers you and Nola and Woodstar, I believe, is you can't stand the idea of ever needing or being dependent for anything on a man. Any good married man, needs his wife. Any good married woman, needs her husband. There is nothing wrong with people needing each other. You need a job, you need food, you need health.
Why does it bother some women that a man wants his gal to need him? Why does it bother some women that they might ever need a guy? I'll tell you what I think. I think, someway in their pasts, someone convinced them they should never put themselves in a position to need a man, or they did put themselves in that position and got burned. Either way, it's too bad. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2008 10:26:58 PM | | ok...I don't see anyone agreeing with you here....soo...how 'bout this...we'll all be first in line to buy your world famous book on relationship tips...wink wink...and...if you have to force your woman to need you because you are afraid she will throw you out like an old shoe...then...you...are an old shoe. | |
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| Independent Women
Posted: 9/22/2008 11:51:01 PM | Readers,
Please read message 58 on this thread. I count at least 8 statements that are terribly derogatory toward men. How does messenger 58 find fault with someone else, me, who, when his statements are taken in complete context, says things directly, but in a much less less offensive manner than she does?
There was a time when being a lady was something to shoot for, to be proud of for females. Not today, at least not by many women, apparently. And wanting a man, needing a man was also understood as a natural thing, a good thing, a God thing. Not today, at least not by many women, apparently.
Not only does the poster of message 58 not want to be a lady, she despises the idea of such a thing, and of ever needing a man. Who is the wolf in wolf's clothing? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. It is Messenger 58. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2008 9:10:45 AM | OK, I just have to pipe in! Experience taught me " root little one, or die" . There were so many "man skills" I learned in order to survive in this world.
Yikes, I am quite the "Tom-Boy". Proud of my skills. I does take a secure man to even ask me out. Let alone go fishing with me. I do "clean -up " well. One could hardly tell.
I have little tolerance for someone less skilled. They are not a "tight- enough unit" to run with me!
Rock-on Girlfriends! You go, girls..
Most of my life I disguised my femininity in order to be taken seriously.
It is a strange and difficult world we live in.
Peace and Light, LS | |
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