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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:11:22 AM | | I totally agree. MCcain made a very irresponsible pick by picking her as VP. She may give a great speach and a great life story. God forbid anything happens to John Mccain healthwise is she really qualified to take over as president right now. Mccain is 72 and not exactly in the best of health so unfortunatly there is a significant chance that she would have to step in. | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:59:11 AM | Maybe it's just me but it seems the blue tune has changed significantly.... before this week "experience" wasn't important, the blue mantra was "new" "change" and hope" a much needed deviation from the same ‘ol politics of yester-year....
So to prove he’s bringing change to Washington, Obama picks an old beltway salt to shore up his lack of experience, and McCain selects a sure enough fiscal conservative with a strong leadership record and the ONLY dog in the hunt with executive experience as it relates to government and SHE'S the inexperienced one?
Of Obama's limited days in Congress he spent almost every single one of them campaigning for President, seems as though he doesn’t even have experience following, much less leading.
Comparing Biden to Palin, if experience is the key issue then Biden wins hands down, comparing McCain to Obama, then McCain wins hands down, and since there is no election for VP, then all who are claiming experience is paramount, MUST vote for McCain, or they have to accept the simple fact that they are the typical blue team hypocrites….
Again, I'm not voting for McCain, but the over the top blatant hypocrisy has to stop somewhere....
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:01:42 AM | ^^^^Um hypocrites? I think the GOP has defined the term. Take a look:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/daily-show-takes-on-the-s_n_123908.html
This sums up everything the GOP is about. Lies and hypocrisy. | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:03:27 AM | When experience leads to wrong decisions, i.e.the last 7 years, then experience is moot! At that point vision and leadership are more important.
I didn't hear ANY plans, except for the Obama Energy Plan last night! Everything else was HATE HATE HATE POW HATE HATE. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 10:24:51 AM |
So to prove he’s bringing change to Washington, Obama picks an old beltway salt to shore up his lack of experience
Considering the rallying cry from the GOP about inexperience, one has to wonder why they suddenly have a problem with Obama bringing in someone with experience. So when he installs someone like Colin Powell in his cabinet will people be saying, "dammit, he's got too much experience?!"
McCain selects a sure enough fiscal conservative with a strong leadership record and the ONLY dog in the hunt with executive experience as it relates to government and SHE'S the inexperienced one?
It's a nice story on the surface, until you start to look at her actual track record. That was the slickest move McCain's campaign has made to date. Bring in an unknown who HAS to be vetted on the fly and in the press because nobody knows who she is, and when people have the audacity to question their nice story about who she really is, scream sexism.
The hypocrisy of this is mind-numbing, but that seems to be the GOP platform. Dumb 'em down, then baffle them with BS. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 10:42:01 AM |
^^^^Um hypocrites? I think the GOP has defined the term. Take a look:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/daily-show-takes-on-the-s_n_123908.html
This sums up everything the GOP is about. Lies and hypocrisy.
Ummmm.... I hate to break this to you, but John Stewart is a Comedian, his show and the "Best F*#@)^g News Team Ever" is pretty much a poor impression of SNL and SCTV comedic news parodies. Don't get me wrong, I still chuckle at him and watch him on Comedy Central pretty regularly, but anyone who considers anything he does as an unbiased news source is more than a few sandwiches shy of a picnic... As for the Karl Rove and Bill O’Reilly comments, refresh my memory, what offices are they running for?
For the record, I wasn’t speaking to the hypocrisy of political pundits, I was speaking to the hypocrisy of posters, and they know exactly who they are … we won’t hear from them again in this thread for fear someone will cut and paste their previous comments….
When experience leads to wrong decisions, i.e.the last 7 years, then experience is moot! At that point vision and leadership are more important. The leadership that now says drill? Let's face simple facts, you have absolutely no proven leadership on either ticket unless you compare Biden to McCain, and that's apples and oranges since only one is going for the oval office, and the other is bidding for second chair.
When you have the # 1 and # 3 most Liberal Senators on one ticket, let’s not talk about leadership, unless you honestly think that both the House and Senate will achieve a super majority in this election… Neither has exhibited any desire to achieve a working relationship with the other side of the aisle, or a bi-partisan approach to legislative issues.
I didn't hear ANY plans, except for the Obama Energy Plan last night! Everything else was HATE HATE HATE POW HATE HATE. I didn't hear any plans last week other than how ignorant the Republicans were for laughing at the Obama Energy Plan and how having been a POW doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things, does that mean all they were espousing during the DNC Convention was HATE HATE HATE POW's HATE HATE? | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 10:58:41 AM | ^^^^DUDE, come on. Let me ask you this. What did you hear SPECIFICALLY last night that answers these questions:
1. How will we fix the economy?
2. What will be done about health care / insurance / coverage?
3. What will be done about education?
4. What will be done about gas prices?
5. What will be done about jobs?
At the DNC Obama at least GAVE SOMETHING to address these. Last night and all week, we got none of that from the GOP. Nada. Just HATE, HATE and more HATE. And thats FACT! Hell, their own campaign manager even said "this election is NOT ABOUT ISSUES." Then what the hell is it about? What he is in effect saying is that this campaign is not about YOU- THE PEOPLE. Its about US and WHAT WE the GOP party wants to do. Not about AMERICA as a whole.
Now, I don't mean this to be directly aimed at you per se but I'm astonished given the current state of this country and the horrendous last 8 years, how people are still willing to ALLOW themselves to be duped a third time by a guy who has PROUDLY supported the polices of THIS administration and PROMISES to continue them. And NOW want to tout CHANGE as their platform because its the winning theme of this election. Its disheartening that people for whatever reason --- either because of fear, racism, xenophobia or whatever, continue to fall for this shit. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 11:00:44 AM |
Neither has exhibited any desire to achieve a working relationship with the other side of the aisle, or a bi-partisan approach to legislative issues.
I didn't hear any plans last week other than how ignorant the Republicans were for laughing at the Obama Energy Plan and how having been a POW doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things, does that mean all they were espousing during the DNC Convention was HATE HATE HATE POW's HATE HATE?
No, to me, it just means you have selective hearing. It doesn't take too much objectivity to see that the DNC had a pro-the working class, pro-America, anti-Bush admin stance while the RNC had a pro-POW, anti-Obama stance. And by "anti-Obama" I mean a continual stream of low blows, cheap shots, spurious accusations, and even a few subtle jabs.
I expect more than that from McCain tonight... more than "I was a POW, and my opponent never had to go through that. Good for him." | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 12:26:50 PM | Obama is light on experience, but has shown the country over the last 19 months his temperament, judgment, and reasoning. He outran Clinton, who was a "washington insider" if you want to call it that, with a ready made campaign contribution list and grass roots support. 18 million people finally came around to him after endless media scrutiny. (NEWSFLASH: all that stuff about Rezko, Ayers, Wright, that information is brought to you compliments of -- ta da! The media). He has showed us his skills in managing, even re-inventing massive campaigning. Those who belittle that accomplishment have never worked in an office of more than 3 people. The more people there are, the more skills you must bring to communication and coordination.
Palin has shown nothing but bad judgment in her short experience. She was pitched to the public as a "maverick" and "reformer" but apparently she did take all those earmarks she supposedly turned down and within 4 days in washington, she's safely under the wing of washington's insiders advisers of choice, most publically, Steve Schmidt. She has no pre-existing relationship with anyone on her staff and is COMPLETELY at the mercy of what they tell her to do.
And she thinks in 5 days she can somehow lay claim to the relationship Obama has built with the people of this country one by one, town hall meeting by town hall meeting with one speech and NO interviews?
And the hilarious part is, you are defending her. | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:29:48 PM |
1. How will we fix the economy?
2. What will be done about health care / insurance / coverage?
3. What will be done about education?
4. What will be done about gas prices?
5. What will be done about jobs?
At the DNC Obama at least GAVE SOMETHING to address these.
And as a nation, we'd probably all be contemplativly parcing and debating these and comparing them to McCain's excellent alternatives if "media circus" McCain didn't spring an unvetted trainwreck on the public like some sick twisted joke. | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:48:22 PM | OK What did you hear SPECIFICALLY last Week that answers these questions:
1. How will we fix the economy?
2. What will be done about health care / insurance / coverage?
3. What will be done about education?
4. What will be done about gas prices?
5. What will be done about jobs?
Peacejavascript:smilie('') | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 4:54:40 PM | In general terms,
1. How will we fix the economy?
Tax cuts for families earning less than 250,000 (this stimulates consumption, the same way all those 600 dollar checks do, only a planned tax cut does not cost the government millions and millions of dollars to process, including the lovly form letter that arrives a few months prior, informing you to go ahead and live beyond your means, cause soon you're getting a "windfall" check)
1. How will we fix the economy?
4. What will be done about gas prices?
5. What will be done about jobs?
Stimulous package to switch to green energy. This would include training, employment, and expenditures that also stimulates the economy as explained above.
3. What will be done about education?
Tax credits to families paying college tuition.
2. What will be done about health care / insurance / coverage?
actually pursue it.
And where will all this money come from? 1st answer, the tax dividend. Second answer diplomacy to make sure we are not the only country handing out aide or mixing in to military opps. (1 billion to Georgia anyone). The inefficient contracting of military jobs to private companies in our war effort as well as Iraqis have made a few very rich people, none of whom intend to invest in the US capitol stock of alternative energy production to move us into 21st century. | |
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| Obama picks Joe Biden for VP
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:29:47 PM | Let those uncertain of Obama's solutions first go to his website and read the issues tabs. Also note the respectable advisors associated with his campaign, and his plan to accomodate all views within his office instead of surrounding himself with yes men.
The fundamental differences are war mongering, fear driven economy vs. peace, big oil and fossil fuels vs. alternative energy and resolving global warming, healthcare for all Americans vs. alternatives such as dieticians, & fee based payers, status quo.
You get the picture. | |
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