| Well Done China
Posted: 8/24/2008 3:59:30 PM | I don't think you can seperate politics and the practices of the Chinese Government from the hosting of these Olympics and more importantly the right to or not, though this thread is not about that.
I think the BBC did an amazing job of covering the Olympics and the organisation and spectacle of the Olympics from the dazzling opening ceremony to the handover for London 2012 was awe inspiring and full credit must go to the Chinese.
What disappointed was there wasn't enough of the Chinese culture and people involved in broadcasting as it is the people that makes an olympic games and was a great opportunity to see the real positives of China.
London has a lot to live upto and if the show is half as exciting, what a story will it be....it starts now! Come on London - make Britain Great a gain | |
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Posted: 8/24/2008 4:07:53 PM | ooo hope for us ? today i experienced a local party in the park for olympic handover... why dont they do that weekly ?? The band stand was full of moshers ,music was appaling.but at least they made the effort.. thats what band stands are for.. i have never seen it used in 30 yrs ! I even stumbled across an office .. we got community policing in the middle of the park !!!!... now who would have thought that ? made me feel proud it did strolling round park on 10th day without stabilisers and only needing one plaster !! Good job we didnt take the dog though,,, that would have made it special...
was alovely day.. a community spirit... | |
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Posted: 8/24/2008 4:47:18 PM |
you know what who gives a hell about the political problems in china
You're all heart Valen.
As much as apologists like to gloss over the fact, the Chinese olympics will be remembered as much for the political rhetoric, as for the outstanding achievements of the athletes. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2008 5:54:35 PM | | Msg 15/ Bootielicious .The boxing was basically rigged .There are four judges sitting ringside three judges have to score a punch for a point to be given .The Chinese boxers were given points for incorrect , low and sloppy punches .When the opponent is suddenly faced with loosing 12-3 to a lesser man he can only win with a knockout punch .When you have boxers trying for knockout punches the sporting and skill element obviously suffers and descends into farce . | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 12:11:21 AM | cool britainna, well personally I think that the UK shouldn't be allowed to host the games in 2012 cause of our vile human rights record....yep you heard me, as a nation we must have one of the worst human rights records in history!!! Empire building, the beginining of the slave trade, the crusades I could go on....but I won't.
Every nation has a history or present they are not proud off, are you going to be judgemental on every nation, or are you going to embody what the olympics actually mean...which is a world united....give it up, it's boring having a whinge now!. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 12:34:23 AM | That whole green skyline thing on the bus was awful!
If that is a sign of things to come....we are really going to embarras ourselves!
I reakon it will be an opening ceremony of pearly whites, red letter boxes and the occasional pork pie and pickled onion formation....
Oh dear!
I agree the ceremonies were beautiful on first glance....but it was all quite sinister too! | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:09:11 AM | No Valen, if you want to question the UK's suitability to host the games, you should be looking at our modern human rights record, not ancient history, or are you suggesting we're all giving china a hard time because of the Communist party winning the war in 49?!
The UK could easily be criticised over it's use of CCTV, spying on it's own population, being criticised over actively participating in the illegal detention of terror suspects, the UN recently slammed us for the Terrorism Act 2006. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:22:56 AM | Britannina you have come onto all these olympic forums and slated the chinese politicaly, they have given us some of the most impressive games we have seen in a long time, but you're narrowed minded view of the world is not needed.
We have all said that their are problems in china, we know there are problems in china and your below belt remarks don't go to help matters! Credit where credit is due china didn't once flaunt communism at us, they cleared up their woeful smog in bejing and all in all they did exactly what the western world asked of them.
You say we shouldn't judge on past events, so you say Dafour we have iraq in return, you say tibet prisoners well we ain't exacytly looking good with our iraqi POW's either, pissing on them, beating them up all on video and camera! What about chinas smog and poor eviromental matters, well we ain't exactly kings there either.
You have come here obviously looking to slate china in whatever they have done, but the problem is China out performed on so many levels what we expected!
They produced some fanatsic performances from their atheletes free of controversal issues, which is a lot more than cuba and sweden can say.
We didn't see any tanks in the streets, we didn't hear of any violent protests, and sorry but with half the western worlds reporters out their looking for exactly that that type of thing you can't say it was covered up.
China can stand back and be proud of what they achieved, and they will...they stood up and shoved a big fat "They you go" right in the world of the so called civilised western world!!!!
BRAVO! | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:38:47 AM | Valen, you accuse me of having a narrow minded view of the world but it appears you didn't read my previous post correctly. I already layed out the reasons you could criticise the UK, foreign policy is not one of them. We have not criticised China over supplying weapons to Darfur, or Zimbabwe, the protests in China focused purely on human rights abuses.
As for the Chinese being free from controversy, I assume you mean the team, as opposed to the controversy riddled authorities. Well aren't the Chinese gymnasts under age?
I like how you mark 'no tanks in street' as a plus point. Awesome. My house price just went up because there's no tank in my street!
The facts are (even if you don't accept them, tough, they are true!) that western reporters were arrested merely for pointing cameras at protesters in Beijing. If they treated foreign nationals with PRESS written all over all their documentation like that, imagine what they did with Chinese nationals.
The sinister silence coming from the 'protest squares' didn't ring any bells in your head did it. You really think that just no Chinese wanted to protest about anything while the worlds cameras were there? Don't be naive.
As for your last paragraph, wow, just wow. What planet do you live on? | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 8:42:26 AM |
I absolutely applaud China for their effort. The games were amazing and they did really well...
I get annoyed reading what people say about China...I dont see anyone complaining that Zimbabwe was allowed to compete, Sudan? and a dozen other conflict nations accused of vile human rights atrocities....
Yes China has got issues concerning human rights, however the games they put on were amazing and the deserve full credit...
What an understatement! Issues concerning human rights!
Fact is,Chinese 'governers' are tyrants who have oppressed millions,tortured millions.Good grief,ignorance is bliss or what.
Yes,those countries you named should not have ben allowed to participate.This effing world is screwed up.
Yes,i say again,well done to the chinese PEOPLE.They were fantastic.
Massive Bruce Lee fan signing off... | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 8:56:20 AM |
Britannina you have come onto all these olympic forums and slated the chinese politicaly, they have given us some of the most impressive games we have seen in a long time, but you're narrowed minded view of the world is not needed.
We have all said that their are problems in china, we know there are problems in china and your below belt remarks don't go to help matters! Credit where credit is due china didn't once flaunt communism at us, they cleared up their woeful smog in bejing and all in all they did exactly what the western world asked of them.
You say we shouldn't judge on past events, so you say Dafour we have iraq in return, you say tibet prisoners well we ain't exacytly looking good with our iraqi POW's either, pissing on them, beating them up all on video and camera! What about chinas smog and poor eviromental matters, well we ain't exactly kings there either.
You have come here obviously looking to slate china in whatever they have done, but the problem is China out performed on so many levels what we expected!
They produced some fanatsic performances from their atheletes free of controversal issues, which is a lot more than cuba and sweden can say.
We didn't see any tanks in the streets, we didn't hear of any violent protests, and sorry but with half the western worlds reporters out their looking for exactly that that type of thing you can't say it was covered up.
China can stand back and be proud of what they achieved, and they will...they stood up and shoved a big fat "They you go" right in the world of the so called civilised western world!!!!
BRAVO!
Would you like to see how those people live? Would you care to have many o the rights you enjoy in this country taken away?
Your senses may be glazed over by all the pomp and ceremony,but that regime is tyrannical and oppressive, and pointing out faults in every single government there has been since 800oBC doesn't negate that fact.
It was the PEOPLE of China that made the olympics spectacular.Proud of them,given how many of them have to live. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 9:12:59 AM | 
how they live and how they are treated has nothing to do with the olympics!
If you want to blame anyone then vent your pointless anger at the IOC, not the chinese government, not the people who enjoyed not only watching the games! For all the people who put everything into the games, the construction workers, the people who performed in the opening and closing, the people who done all the hard work that made the games as special as they were, are you going to dis all these people because you don't like the government, you lot really need to get with the deal! A lot of hard work went into making these games the most spectuaclar of modern times and for you lot to denounce that is arrogant beyond believe!
I will say it again as other people also have
BRAVO CHINA! | |
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Posted: 8/25/2008 9:18:15 AM | Arrogant? I call it socially responsible.
The IOC may want the world to gloss over the fact that China is a police state, but it isn't going to happen Valen. No matter how many people like you are happy to stick your head in the sand and sing tra-la-la.
I suppose you think the 1936 Nazi Olympics should be applauded because the catering was nice? | |
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Posted: 8/26/2008 12:45:30 PM |
the people who done all the hard work that made the games as special as they were, are you going to dis all these people because you don't like the government, you lot really need to get with the deal! A lot of hard work went into making these games the most spectuaclar of modern times and for you lot to denounce that is arrogant beyond believe!
I will say it again as other people also haveBRAVO CHINA!
What planet are you on? I SAID well done to the chinese PEOPLE! READ posts PROPERLY | |
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Posted: 8/26/2008 12:49:54 PM |
I suppose you think the 1936 Nazi Olympics should be applauded because the catering was nice? lol.
I say hurrah to the Chinese people that put it all together,but will not hurrah the 'government' (dictatorship) that China is.They should not have been held there, CBritt | |
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Posted: 8/26/2008 1:30:03 PM | Aparently the safety record on the Chinese railways is sh1te. They cut down the accidents during the Olympics by shutting down the railways, can you see that happening here?
The polution problem, they shut down the industry round Bejing, again can you see that happening here?
Nothing has changed, China has paid lipservice to the human rights issues, polution issues and anything else a dictatorship sees as inconvenient.
Before anyone starts saying "I got a train from X to Y so the trains were running", the company I work for were told not to plan on anything moving while the Olympics were on so no accidents hit the papers at that time.
It did look good though, propoganda works. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 10:03:23 PM | curious !! who can tell me what the show is , that ,during the close ceremony ,Beckham played soccer,meanwhile some were reading newspapers and riding bicycles?
the show tell us always rainy in London?please | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 10:18:56 PM | well done china....my butt...they spends trillions on the event...and there people
are starving...living in tin huts......no clean water....try joining the real world
and gave a look whats going on. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:13:24 AM |
well done china....my butt...they spends trillions on the event...and there people
are starving...living in tin huts......no clean water....try joining the real world
and gave a look whats going on.
The UK will be spending multi millions on hosting the Olympics here in 4 years time and we are on the verge of a credit crunch. Presumably they hope that the money is a worthwhile investment as I'm sure China did too.
I started this thread to hail the people of china that took part. There were literally thousands of Chinese people involved in making the games what they were and I do think it is sad that you denounce those people in the name of politics. If you have an issue with the government take it to another thread, this one was to praise work well done, not something that has been an issue for decades before it.
I'm also wondering what the people on this thread that seem to know so much about the Chinese government have done themselves as individuals to help change things? Have you been actively involved? Or do you just like to talk about it? | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:16:37 AM | hi louell
well done china....my butt...they spends trillions on the event...and there people
are starving...living in tin huts......no clean water....try joining the real world
and gave a look whats going on.
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right ,but not all .
starving ?you are | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:39:06 AM | Well i am an active member of the campaign against the arms trade so I do like to actually make a difference, but I'm wondering how an ordinary joe in the UK CAN make a difference? Seems to me that spreading the word and protesting, whether with placards on the street or with facts on a forum wanting to praise China, is one of the only tools we have.
Interestingly, freedom to protest is not a tool the Chinese are privy to. | |
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