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 Obsidian71

Joined: 6/9/2008
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:22:25 PM
Music sucked 40 years ago too.

For every standout artist there were 5 derivatives that no one remembers.


However the problem today is that image is everything and it's not about the music anymore
but the "Brand" so who cares of the music sucks if the person is a character and somehow catches
the interest of the public. Why is Paris Hilton constantly being covered?

If you want to find the good music you have to go underground in most genres. Today's mainstream
has been hijacked by the Clear Channels and MTVs of the world and dumbed down.

Fear not though my comrades. The Internet is going to change the distribution of music and movies and
that largely erases the power of the music/movie moguls. The hard part now is just getting in front of
customers and selling your wares. Once the broadcasters begin to lose power we'll have new world order
in music.

O
 levitateme

Joined: 7/17/2008
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:23:16 PM
The good, creative, original, influential music of today will only be known in 20 years time.

Though, it's hard to think there are some decent artists at the moment. Originality is so much harder to achieve as time goes by, I believe (everyone's done everything - or have they?) . Have you heard The Smiths' 'Bigmouth' single? The B-sides on that are AMAZING songs. Artists seem to struggle to produce an album with a better track than most Smiths b-sides.

*sigh* But it's there, the good music. Somewhere...
Music Today Sucks.
Posted: 9/3/2008 2:17:56 AM
If you want unique and interesting, you have to go digging for fit. The industry isn't interested in rolling the dice and risking losing a profit by promoting something unproven when it can take the safe route and continue turning out carbon copy bands of a proven money making formula.

People on the business side don't generally care about the artistic side of music. They're only there to get paid. As long as something is selling, that's what they'll push.
 Taojones

Joined: 8/30/2008
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Posted: 9/3/2008 3:20:35 AM
I think what needs to be defined, or redefined is what is good music?

Of course there is better music underground than what Clear Channel and MTV are putting out, but good for me means something else.

Innovation, virtuosity and creativity are the big lacking factor in music.

Innovation and creativity as far as going beyond what has already come before. If there was no innovation all would still sound like it did in the past. Artists tried new things and brought us new sounds.

Virtuosity as far as mastering ones instrument or medium.

There are other factors like writing ability, but for the most part, even digging below the surface I find a virtual wasteland there as well.

In the past, before the internet, there was an underground that brought one great music. It was still based on independent labels filtering out the crap. SST in the eighties, for example. That which is called "Indy" today, is merely indie in name as it falls outside the big business world, but it sounds to me as formulaic, stale and retro as anything I would call "bad music".

I think it's a combination of the music industry, the dumbing down of society, the garage band movement of the 90s that seems to not be ending, which told us that talent didn't matter, just rawness, and the fact that the internet has little filters, and everyone is throwing their crap out there and flooding the music world with it.
 HeatherCD

Joined: 1/20/2008
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Posted: 9/3/2008 3:08:27 PM
People
people who need people
are the luckiest people
in the world !

I am a woman in love
it's a right I defend
over and over again !

Oh, my man, I love him so, he'll never know
All my life is just despair, but I don't care
When he takes me in his arms
The world is bright, all right...
What's the difference if I say I'll go away
When I know I'll come back on my knee someday
For whatever my man is, I am his forever more
It cost me a lot,
But there's one thing that I've got, it's my man
Cold and wet tired, you bet,
But all that I soon forget with my man
He's not much for looks
And no hero out of books is my man
Two or three girls has he
That he likes as well as me, but I love him...
Oh, my man, I love him so, he'll never know
All my life is just despair, but I don't care
When he takes me in his arms
The world is bright, all right...
What's the difference if I say I'll go away
When I know I'll come back on my knee someday
For whatever my man is, I am his forever more...

Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton

Old things they are not forgotten

Look away, look away, look away Dixieland

Oh I wish I was in Dixie, away, away

In Dixieland I take my stand to live and die in Dixie

Cause Dixieland, that's where I was born

Early Lord one frosty morning

Look away, look away, look away Dixieland

Glory, glory hallelujah

Glory, glory hallelujah

Glory, glory hallelujah

His truth is marching on

So hush little baby

Don't you cry

You know your daddy's bound to die

But all my trials, Lord will soon be over

 smartaleck

Joined: 8/7/2008
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Posted: 9/3/2008 5:20:13 PM
I agree with others who are saying that there was good and bad music in the "olden" days, just as there is good and bad music today.
People who listen to commercial radio today (and back then) don't have the same level of interest as the people who would be posting on a board such as this. It is just something to hear in the background to them. Their interest/curiosity in music is not at the level it is for the people here. They must be in the majority because the commercial stations keep pumping out the drivel.
Good new music can still be found, we just aren't going to find it on regular radio stations.
 shananana

Joined: 7/24/2008
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Posted: 9/4/2008 12:06:23 AM
ya know its really weird..not really any good music on the radio these days..cuz they play the same things over and over
you kinda gotta hunt good music down

look in the depths of the music jungle
 Taojones

Joined: 8/30/2008
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Posted: 9/4/2008 2:02:37 AM
How about everyone that has dug and found great music today, give an example so we can check their myspace page.
 cw35

Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 9/4/2008 5:30:25 AM
Videos pretty much destroyed the need to actually be a good singer or musician. It's become all looks and no substance. There were bad groups years ago. The only difference is that then you had to wade through all the great music to find something bad. Now you have to wade through tons of garbage to find one good group or musician. The only reason anyone would think newer music is "good" is because crap music has been beaten into everyone's head for a bit now, so it takes VERY little talent to impress people.
 INTOART

Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 9/4/2008 8:34:38 AM
I haven't listened to the radio in more than 20 years. I look for music I like on CD.
When MTV started, it was interesting as a novelty for a couple of months. I haven't watched a music video since (except live concert videos.)
 anotheragain

Joined: 5/10/2007
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Posted: 9/5/2008 8:26:21 PM
There is some good music out there still. I listen to a rock station more than anything. Rap and grunge killed off MTV unfortunately. Give me long haired metal rockers bands anytime! They still have it going on! Woohoo!
 TOMic bomb

Joined: 3/25/2008
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Posted: 9/6/2008 3:34:59 PM
every generation MUST HAVE IT'S OWN MUSIC.

it is essential that the previous generation NOT embrace the current generation's music. thus the people in their teens and 20's have taken rap music to heart.

you remember what your mom and dad said about rock and roll? they thought it sucked too.

when the rappers are our age there will be a new style of music and the aged rappers will say "that sh!t sucks!!!! and on and on and on............

btw i thought the 80's hair bands were the best! ha ha
 Lblue

Joined: 7/21/2008
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Posted: 9/7/2008 11:23:17 PM
Music needs help from the ground up. It wants an audience. And maybe some who are involved with making music are insecure in how to do that. So they just settle for what they can get away with. And we the public are the unfortunate bearers of it's attempts. Maybe music needs a renaissance awakening of sorts?
 Sivoph

Joined: 8/2/2008
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Posted: 9/8/2008 12:00:34 AM
Older folk obviously are partial towards the sort of music they grew up on. Rap music is definitely creative and is a legitimate art form. People dismiss it because they see the an aspect of it which is particularly unpalatable to those who believe themselves morally righteous and decent. Who said art was confined to this realm of virtue? Perhaps they need something to scapegoat society's ills on.

I'd say we've become inundated with formulaic crap meant to sell records fast...in the popular media, but there is a lot of good music that isn't given the time of day.
 cw35

Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 9/8/2008 8:31:27 AM
Rap is definitely a legitimate art form. The only problem is that 99.9% of the people who choose to do it have no musical talent, originality, creativity or artistic ability to begin with. The proof is in the words... or lack of them. The ONLY group that comes to mind as having something intelligent to say that I can think of is (or was) Arrested Development.
 Dwight-001

Joined: 6/6/2005
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Posted: 9/14/2008 9:39:57 AM
listen to Serj Tankian recent solo album some fine listening there.
 Vindicator

Joined: 7/27/2007
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Posted: 9/14/2008 10:18:09 AM
The new Extreme album was a pleasant surprise, where as the new Kings Of Leon album....was somewhat of a disappointment. Maybe I will have to listen to it again, but there was nothing on it that captured my interest; they have deviated from their 'sound' enough...where it just isn't the same. There alreay is/was a band called U2...
 aerobear79

Joined: 8/14/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:38:23 PM
Hmm, what is it that you're looking for in your music? What classifies music as cruddy to you? Seriously, we all listen to the same music with different minds. It's just like looking at art through another set of eyes. Is it possible that being told over and over again that a certain band is the one YOU want to listen what drives people to sit there and listen to a song without what some of us call substance? I'm asking a lot of questions that may not get answers, but I'm just curious.

O.P. Perhaps browsing the internet will help you find more bands in the genre you like. I'm on a few sites that support the music that I mainly listen too. Even those sites have bands that not everyone cares for.
 TheReason_

Joined: 9/19/2007
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Posted: 9/14/2008 9:37:19 PM
Check ouyt Sixx AM, Foo Fighters. Velvet Revolver, Desert Boots, The Bleeding Alarm

 Slowpace732

Joined: 8/22/2008
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Posted: 9/14/2008 11:41:14 PM
The reason it sucks is just because you don't prefer it becuse you enjoy listening to something different.
 cw35

Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 9/15/2008 8:22:18 AM
slow: I don't judge music as good or bad because of my personal preferences. Anybody who does that makes a very bad critic. I judge it on actual talent, musical capability, originality, lyrics etc. This applies when judging all forms of music. It isn't just about saying something stinks because you don't like it. A lot of music is really bad. It wouldn't matter if I liked listening to it or not, it would still be awful.
 Thatguy67

Joined: 9/20/2006
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Posted: 9/15/2008 8:41:12 AM
Today's music always sucks. Whether it was 40 years ago, 10 years ago, 1 year ago...etc.

But what's good about today's music? You don't have to listen to it.


 chopchopchop

Joined: 5/13/2008
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Posted: 9/15/2008 10:53:49 AM
It's ill-thought out comments like 'Music Today Sucks' which I find just plain annoying. Simply because it is not true. The very fact you're making such comments is proof to me you're just too lazy to look for stuff that isn't shoved in front of you by commercial Radio and the like.

If you actually spent a bit of time searching on the internet, you'll see there's a whole plethora of interesting bands around.

LastFM is your friend.
 mightbeme04

Joined: 1/26/2007
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Posted: 9/15/2008 11:23:41 AM
Music today doesn't suck, here's what REALLY SUCKS:

A generation ago, MTV and mainstream radio promoted artists that could not play worth SHIT, could not write worth SHIT, and frankly weren't worth SHIT at anything they did.

Now imagine all the younger kids that watched MTV and saw their then-heroes at the forefront, and thought "wow, that is SO cool! ALL I have to do is get a neat guitar and mimic those guys!"

Think they learned how to play from watching them idiots?

You can thank MTV for their part in giving the young generation such positive role models to guide them. NOT!

You can thank God, their parents, friends, and musical mentors for every musician that actually learned an instrument, and is making great music today, despite how popular it was to sing off key and write shitty songs when they were growing up.
 seattlerain1

Joined: 9/17/2007
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Posted: 9/15/2008 8:54:50 PM
There are a million GREAT musicians and groups out here today! You'll never catch me listening to Clear Channel crap or MTV (do they even play music any more?).

I'm lucky to have been listening to the #1 rated indi station in THE WORLD and the internet for over 25 years here in Seattle. It is KEXP (.org) and they stream 24/7... best part is there are never commercials or news or traffic... nor is there the "witty" banter of three talking heads in the morning... Just music!

Not only are their GREAT bands from the U.S., Canada, and UK, but you should hear some of the stuff coming out of Japan, Africa, and Brazil these days.

James, Port Orchard, Washington, USA, Earth
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