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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 2:23:27 AM | What's that called again? Ad hominem? Something like that, I'm sure. Duckie, I'm not going to criticise, although I'm sure you'll gladly take it that way. Meantime,
...perhaps you should do better to read the posts or just avoid them altogether.
Might be a good idea to take one's own advice. Just a thought. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 11:19:55 AM | ...at least thats what i lanrt in my archaeology and anthropology courses ...
Actually, it's "Learned" not 'lanrt'
for ym research paper
You sure you don't mean "my" not "ym" research paper? (as in yours?)
And one must Capitalise: "I" (not "i")
I mean form a coherant decent post and then come back i mean it may take a coupe of years but try it anyways.
Perhaps, you should follow your OWN advice?
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Posted: 12/15/2005 11:59:16 AM | | As a complete aside...I get annoyed at myself when I fail to spell check my posts, and in drives me nuts when people are to lazy to make a half-baked effort to do the same. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 12:45:29 PM | Thanks for the defence Feral and CR.
Devilduckie22. I would not insult your gramer or use of english, plese do not insult mine. My spelling makes no difrence to the veracity of my claims. Don't force to pull the Dyslexia card and go to an administator, I would rather have an amicale discusion without basal insults and mud slinging.
you should do better with your copy and paste methods you use in every post you have performed and form a thought of your own.
My copy and past style as you so put it, is actualy a way to break up my text and make it easier for people like myself, who have dificulty absorbing the information in a large body of text, to read.
I hapen to form perfectly coherent thoughts of my own and have expressed them as such. I'm sorry if you can't understand them but I am always willing to expand on any point that someone strugles with, as I hope others would do the same for me.
Since usually your posts are full of hogwash and fiddle sticks anyways.
Please could you cite an example for me? If I am wrong I will apologise and retract my statement as I have done so in the past. Its no skin off my nose to become beter educated.
at least thats what i lanrt in my archaeology and anthropology courses but i guess going by your logic all my my professors are stupid and wrong and you are the almighty guru.
Please remember that in order to make a salient point, lecurers often make use of comon languge as it is more adaptable and easier understund by all.
And I won't labour the point, but to be quite blunt, yes I do belive your lecturers are wrong. Archaeology in America is still only a subset of Anthropology, although it is gaining more independance. The American scientific comunity have also yet to acept much archaeological work that has been done thoughut the world. To put it bluntly, America is slighlty behind much of the rest of the world in its archaeological understanding. This is not to say that I belive that America is wrong on everything or that it is retarded in its understanding, just that it is not working from the most current information.
And actually i used peer reviewed journals for ym research paper on the ancestors of humans and they used the term missing link
Perhaps you could provide a citiation, as a search for peer review papers in CBA and BritArch and sciencedirect brings up nothing at all.
and did i say anywhere in my post we evolved from living chimpanzees????
You did not need to state the word "living", let me just recap for you and see if you can understand this... We evolved from the same ANCESTOR as chimpanzes, one of the african great apes. This ancestor was not human, nor was it chimp, it was an african great ape. To say we evolved from a chimp ancestor would be eroneous as it was an african great ape that we share comon decent from with the chimps.
Sorry to "flog a dead horse" but I nead to reiterate the point as often as posible so that it is not overlooked!
I mean form a coherant decent post and then come back i mean it may take a coupe of years but try it anyways.
"Pot... helo, this is the Kettle here, I'm sorry I was disparaging about your ethnicity earlier, just wanted you to know that I realy do respect your african heritage, I was just angry."
Hows this for a coherant thought for you then,
Is dòcha an sin nach eil tuiteamas air bith ann?
Sorry I could not resist that, no ofence ment realy.  | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 12:59:45 PM |
As a complete aside...I get annoyed at myself when I fail to spell check my posts, and in drives me nuts when people are to lazy to make a half-baked effort to do the same.
There's 15 minutes after posting to edit out typos, to not do so; implies a few things. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 1:04:44 PM | The only thing it implies with me Late, is that I just can not be bothered to be honest. I have beter things to do with my time. This only a forum, I dont realy care if my spelling is shit in here because it is not going to make any difrence to my future.   | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 1:12:15 PM | Bright,
Your spelling is not all that bad, even when you a just banging the keys so to speak...but there are some people whose spelling is so awful I feel as though I am reading jibberish. | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 1:41:06 PM | Like it or not, it CAN lessen (wink) one's credibility, at least in terms of courtesy.
If one doesn't "care", why bother posting?
I am reading jibberish.
Some (not Bright), are so typo-ridden, ....it's intelligible. When somebody critiques another's typos, with a typo filled diatribe, .......(shrug). | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 2:52:26 PM | Yea, i knoe wat your meen, Late. Adn, did yu meen "lessen?"
Sorry, had to.. | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 3:37:12 PM | | By copying and pasting i mean taking from other peoples work and not using what you yourself have learnt. OK so for one point that i must make clear. I AM NOT AMERICAN... my teachers are not american. I attend Canadian universities where my Archaeology teachers have taught all around the world and do not follow the American school of thought. But good try at trying to make my professors appear uneducated and worthless. You do not need to recap anything. I did not state living in my post anywhere and i resent the fact the you implied that i did and that you basically talk down to everyone else in the posts. You take material you find from the internet and copy and paste it into the post box. Which is fine if thast how you want to live your life is by the copy and paste method. you don't have to prove references for any of your plagerized work so i am not going to go out and find a copy of the paper i used two years ago to find you a reference, you like to copy and paste to do it so u go right ahead. | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 3:46:05 PM |
By copying and pasting i mean taking from other peoples work and not using what you yourself have learnt.
...As opposed to learning from others' work and sharing the source with others.
So, basically, what I'm getting from the rest of the post is, you disagree with what someone has said, refuse to accept any of their information regardless of its origin or validity, insist that it's unnecessary to read the thread and familiarise yourself with the debate up to this point, and lambast everyone for "dismissing" the nebulous authorities that you now refuse to cite, since doing so would be using the same tactics that others have done. Okay. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 3:54:12 PM | | No i disagree with his attack and twisting everything i have said in my post. Right because it is completely possible for my to reference what my professors have taught me... ok well i can try. I read the thread minus the pointless ones which mostly come from a select few who really have nothing to add for themselves. Why should i cite if no one else is? I don't think those rules should apply to me just because i go against what everyone else is saying because i can at least form my own opinion and thoughts on something. i mean how stupid of me. and i thought being involved in the forums would be a good thing. but i can see now that it isn't. nothing gets accomplished the forums are just a waste of time and a place for everyone to **** and complain because the world did them wrong. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 4:12:34 PM | Wow. I disagree.
See how easy that is? As for asking for references, no one's saying you're full of it, just asking for clarification. We disagree with something, we call you on it, explain our stance. You want to take that as an attack, that's your gig. Raziel only pointed out where he was coming from. As far as attacks, I only see one smoking gun, and the duck's holding it. My suggestion? Evolve some skin, and discuss. Simple, yes? | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 4:24:10 PM | | Right i am totally the smoking gun. What was i thinking. He has every right to attack me and say that my education is useless and to assume i'm American. Because thats the way the world works. Having an opinion makes me american, i forgot. Better change my blood lines. It is an attack when he takes something i said and twists it into something completely different. But that is how the American system works so what can you do just play the same games they do. And here goes. I disagree with your suggestion i would like some references to back it all up with. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 4:41:41 PM | | Wow now i'm a guy. First i was assumed to be american and now i am a guy. This forum is full of such intelligent people who do their background research. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 5:00:11 PM | Someone asked for it.
Oh and humans from apes, not monkeys. And transitional forms,not missing links.
"Hi there, I'd like to correct some of the terms you've used, since they're not quite accurate."
Cue "Psycho" music? Probably not.
Actually there is a missing link from between 5 and 8 million years ago. And if we want to be technical it's name from chimpanzees.
To which the reply was to explain and define terms, although I'm not quite sure what the second part was intended to mean. Unless it was to say that the link was "from" chimpanzees. Which prompted this:
Humans did not evolve from living chimpanzees, we evolved from the same ancestor as chimps, one of the african great apes, but not the same ancestor as gorilas.
To further elucidate the apparent misunderstanding. Isn't communication wonderful?!?
which is where the missing link resides in the rock starta which can not be found in any area on earth that is easliy accessible to people.
A point of faith that I, for one, let go in the interest of being "nice."
at least thats what i lanrt in my archaeology and anthropology courses but i guess going by your logic all my my professors are stupid and wrong and you are the almighty guru.
Defensiveness going on the attack.
should we bow down to you and your ability to copy and paste from resources from the internet.
Furthering the attack.
...so perhaps you should do better with your copy and paste methods you use in every post you have performed and form a thought of your own.
Carrying through the assault (I like to switch words every now and again).
and did i say anywhere in my post we evolved from living chimpanzees????
Misinterpretation. Deliberate? I don't know, don't think so, but it illustrates the wisdom of asking what someone means, rather than jumping to conclusions.
no i didn't think so perhaps you should do better to read the posts or just avoid them altogether. Since usually your posts are full of hogwash and fiddle sticks anyways. I mean form a coherant decent post and then come back i mean it may take a coupe of years but try it anyways.
Ooh, the riposte. Really nice in fencing, a pain in the ass for discussion.
I'm sorry if you can't understand them but I am always willing to expand on any point that someone strugles with, as I hope others would do the same for me.
Another "attack?" Sorry, I just don't see it.
Please could you cite an example for me? If I am wrong I will apologise and retract my statement as I have done so in the past. Its no skin off my nose to become beter educated.
Yep, this is just the very picture of intolerance and jugmentalism (is that even a word?  ).
Perhaps you could provide a citiation, as a search for peer review papers in CBA and BritArch and sciencedirect brings up nothing at all.
A request for more information? Wanting to understand? Wait, that doesn't fit the profile of an overbearing, impulsively judgmental attacker. Best we ignore this. Or, better yet, he's just not good enough for that kind of priveleged information!
I'm not going to continue. Fact is, you either won't read it, or you'll take it all wrong. And, that's your prerogative. You asked for references, you got 'em. I'll leave it at that.
Oh, and CR, not Tsur. Try Guess_Who. Just jumped the fence to misrepresent the other side. If you can't beat 'em, undermine from within. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2005 5:21:51 PM | "Guess Who!"  welcome back....
But Feral...I would tend to think 'gorilla grod' was more of those tactics, not 'Guess Who'...
...hogwash and fiddle sticks anyways...
What DOES one wash a hog with anyway? (Is that like 'whitewash'??)
And, fiddle sticks? Is that like Fiddle Head Greens, only straight? Or 'Hickory Sticks'?
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:16:27 PM | Not so sure there Feral, the writing style’s different. I could be wrong though… besides I’m all marked out and sick of looking for plagiarism. One last exam to mark then I’m free!!!! Whooot!
Ok, sorry for the digression.
Speaking of which… what is this last spat about?
Actually, don't tell me… Just the meat of the actual debate please.
Actually there is a missing link from between 5 and 8 million years ago. And if we want to be technical it's name from chimpanzees. Perhaps DevilDuckie, if you would kindly clarify and support this statement. I suspect this is the source of the current teapot tempest. Thanks.
And Bright… it depends where you’re headed if a ride is out of the question… *sigh* | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/16/2005 8:29:53 AM | Prehaps this link will help out.
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/H/HominoidClade.html
It shows a phylogenetic tree of living hominoids based on DNA-DNA hybridization data. | |
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| Creation vs Evolution
Posted: 12/16/2005 8:53:11 AM |
To deny even the possibility of some kind of supreme being is arrogant presumption at best.
Scientific method cannot answer the question whether God exists as there is no testing methods to verify or discount the claim. Wonka has some excellent posts in numerous forums discussing this very point.
Also, I would like to hear your thoughts as to why it is an arrogant presumption to deny a supreme being. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 9:22:57 AM | Sighs...
I do not disagree with you about science being unable to explain many phenomena, I never claimed that it can or will.
My comment was specifically in relation to the concept of God. The very nature of God as described by most relegions precludes Science from proving or disproving his/her/its existence. This was neither an insult nor compliment to either relegion or God, it was merely and observation about the nature of scientific method. Also, the comment does not advocate for or against scientific method...it is merely an observation.
Again, I will ask you to expand on your thought/belief/opinion that it is an arrogant presumption to deny a supreme being. Key word is expand. I am aware that is what you think, I was curious as to why. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 9:26:32 AM | Again, I ask the question:
Why is it that so many believe Life on earth is too complex and thus needed outside help. While the "outside help" just sprung up by it's self?
I just don't get it! | |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 9:36:23 AM | | Just so that I am clear...you would think someone an atheist is arrogant as they actively deny the existence of a God? I am understanding your position correctly. It is not necessary to believe that a God exists, but to entirely dismiss the notion is arrogant. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 9:50:22 AM | Actual it is funny you should bring up the definition of a Supreme Being.
A lot of people define God in terms that logically force them into very counterintuitive positions. I agree, these definitions are the source of many debates. | |
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