| It looks like McCain's VP pick is................................
Posted: 8/29/2008 9:54:50 PM | Obama worked in the trenches for years helping poor families in Chicago while Sarah was off having babies and being in a beauty contest
OK so it comes down to women having babies being a bad thing. Do you know what got her into politics? Concern over how her children were being educated, so she joined the PTA. OH no a woman has children and joins the PTA instead of coming out of a liberal college an angry pissed of socialist and political rabble rouser! How dare her!
McCain picked her for quite a few reasons. 1) She is actually conservative but not a Republican shill (rooted out corruption in Alaskas state government against her own party) 2) She isnt part of Washington politics, you know those people who have approval ratings below 10% 3) She actually does something about the energy needs of her constituancy 4) She isnt afraid to use more centrist democrats as political advisors when she knows they are correct and know the most about certain issues 5) She is pro-life (unlike the guy from Minnesoda i believe it was) 6) She doesnt pander for votes (Like Romney on abortion who promised not to change abortion laws in an extremely democratic state then gets elected and instantly wants to change abortion laws)
7) (The big one I think) She appeals to the average American ideal. She is the daughter of school teachers. Her husband (and previously her) were union workers. She has children, one of whom is going to Iraq next month, she didnt grow up rich (heck she isnt rich right now). This one is important. Obama tries to claim McCain is out of touch with people.....directly after taking a private jet to a private beach house in Hawaii while he owns a home 99.5% of America could not pay off with their entire paycheck in their entire lifetime (and buying the land next door at discount from a guy who just got convicted of political corruption BTW). But who is in touch with the Average guy more? The person who made $4 million last year or the mother of five whose husband is a blue collar worker?
Sarah Palin disproves half of the Obama message. That the blue collar working American cannot make it in this country because the "rich guys" keep them down. Well guess what.....she made it to the most powerful seat in Alaska under those conditions, so what gives Obama? Is her situation special because of something? Did she get this huge leg up on people because her father or mother was some important figure? Were they kindling the fireplace with $100 while she was growing up? Are her kids suffering? No. She is the model people should be following. Oh gee, you work hard and apply yourself and you can be successful in life? WHO FREAKING KNEW!??!?!?!!!?? You don't need government handouts because you are a woman to get ahead? NO WAY!
But Obama doesnt get it. He relies on the victim card to get people to vote for him. His message is not one of freaking hope. It's of desperation and guilt trips. Rich people have been keeping you down. They want to take all of your money from you to live these lavish lives (which he lives). They bathe in alabaster bathtubs while you the working individual barely scrape by (no mention of people living within their means either). It's the same arguments another group of individuals used: the Communists.
On her experience: She has more experience for the office she is selected for that Obama does. While she does not have national political experience (of which Obama has very very little....142 days before he basically left his office to run for prez) she has Executive experience. She knows how to run things in her state, and manages to carry a full 80% approval rating (thats over 70% higher than Obamas in the senate BTW). Her experience is fine. Between her and McCain they can surround themselves with the people they know that do have the experience they need on certain subjects. And she has proven (by getting democratic advisors when necessary) tht she doesnt do it by appeasing hard-line Republicans and just giving select spots to cronies......she gives it to the people best qualified. And besides she wouldnt even be the President with the least political experience if something were to god forbid happen: Chester Arthurs grand accomplishment? He ran the NYC Customs house. Yeah thats it before he was selected as a VP
Edit: NOW is showing their true colors today blasting this woman instead of embracing her. They are truely showing their colors today. Instead of embracing her, they are showing their true liveral agenda. Who do you think resonates more with AVERAGE women voters (you know, the ones not changing their political affiliations and thus the ones who are going to actually decid the election?) A mother of 5 who worked her way up to become the most powerful woman in Alaska while having a child with a disability...........or people who believe in partial birth abortions and blast a successful woman just because she has different moral beliefs than them? Who is furthering the cause of women in this country? NOW or Palin? If you think NOW.........well you are a democrat and unreasonable. Any reasonable person would say Palin in a heartbeat | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is................................
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:00:45 PM | Thank god too cuz the world hasn't gotta a BIT more complicated since good ole Chester was around.......you want this lil cutie to be one old tired heartbeat away from Commander in Chief, hmmmm? Fascinating how opinions about EXPERIENCE change on a dime as of this selection. But I'm thinkin' we got somewhat lucky here cuz I heard McCain asked Miss Piggy first. Or maybe it was Jessica Rabbit........really, a female......ANY female will do. Cuz women are that stupid........they'll vote for anything....female.
McCain/what's-her-name '08!!! Got milk???? | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:01:41 PM |
The talk shows around here are saying she is smarter then the other three put together!
If she handed me a pipeline contract I'd like her too (at least until the cheque cleared). | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:16:09 PM | I think that the negativity directed towards Palin really reflects the frustration that the democrats feel due to the fantastic pick of McCain, such a brillant and unexpected choice, apparently, it really hit a nerve...
had Obama swallowed his pride and not feared being over-shadowed by Hillary and picked her as VP, I truly believe he would have been our next president, but he didn't like her initial vote on the war and the fact that she was too, Washington, so he went with Biden who voted for the war and who was already a senator when Obama was 11 years old....nice move~
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is................................
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:18:40 PM |
Thank god too cuz the world hasn't gotta a BIT more complicated since good ole Chester was around.......you want this lil cutie to be one old tired heartbeat away from Commander in Chief, hmmmm? Fascinating how opinions about EXPERIENCE change on a dime as of this selection. But I'm thinkin' we got somewhat lucky here cuz I heard McCain asked Miss Piggy first. Or maybe it was Jessica Rabbit........really, a female......ANY female will do. Cuz women are that stupid........they'll vote for anything....female.
McCain/what's-her-name '08!!! Got milk????
I'm not a McCain supporter, and Yes I would actually LOVE it if she was President! Why? Because she actually speaks common sense and isnt an Average politician. Instead of a party hack (Obama/Biden) we would actually have *Gasp* as average American as a president? whoa.
People love to point out McCains "siding with Bush 90% of the time" thing. But fail to realize a) most votes in congress are absolute fluff b) Obama has sided with Bush about 60% of the time on the same votes (when he actually votes instead of voting present) Biden is close to the same. In fact McCain has voted away from Bush on things that both Biden and Obama have sided WITH Bush.
My point about Arthur is that your ideal of someone with limited experience in Washington (of Which i must point out Obama has little and you are going to vote for him anyways) being a bad thing and completely detrimental to a compaign is false. If that wasnt the case Hillary would be the nominee, not Obama. The fact that she has Executive experience in the state puts her in line with a lot of other VP candidates throughout History who have lost for various other reasons (I mean really....the Dukakis campaign was over before it started)
If my candidate had made the ballot she was actually number two on my list of people I'd want as VP because of how she governs | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:23:04 PM | Biden will exploit her willingness to exploit her state's land for profit. Her energy policy basically says, "Pay me and it's all yours."
Well, this gives nothing to the fact that the oil companies have millions of acres of offshore oil prospects that are already available to the oil companies. They suddenly see the need, or opportunity, to seize all lands available. Has Sarah already been on the oil companies payroll? You tell me.
Republican doubters should realize that Mobil is funding a Mc Cain promotional commercial that just came on CNN a moment ago. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:27:51 PM | ^^^Which is why she hates polar bears. :(
What kind of person would SUE the Dept of the Interior for placing polar bears on the endangered species list???
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:34:12 PM | Fox is actually saying she has INTERNATIONAL experience cuz she lives in Alaska and that's......*wait for it*.......close to Russia. Yeah ummmmmm
McCain/what's-her-name.......cuz she looks JUST like ME.....down there.... | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:38:34 PM | re:""""So, two question, explain exactly how Governor Palin is an insult to women, and exactly what "dues" must be paid in order to be Vice President? ..I'll be waiting.""
It's reasonble to think that in a close contest, Palin is being used to attract the Hillary disaffecteds, McCain has made invitations to them earlier.......so the insult is to think they would vote for a woman........any woman.........to see a woman at that level.
"Dues".........she would be a heartbeat away from Prez and an old man at that....I really have to wonder how our country would fare by someone with so little national experience. Biden could step in for Obama if need be.............who would you like to see Palin or Biden as President? | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:38:51 PM | She does have International experience. I mean, Alaska is freaking huge! You can almost put all the European countries inside it. So yes that justifies her having international experience.  | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:42:09 PM | Well, sure, I could love a walrus (within reason). :)
But walruses don't hunt polar bears for TROPHIES, which she APPROVES of. And walruses don't shoot polar bears from the AIR, like cowards, for the sake of their heads and skins. And walruses don't sell out polar bears for the sake of OIL. Walruses don't make specious arguments about how polar bears are really OK, despite the best advice of experts, so that they don't have to worry about their habitat. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:50:08 PM | So...SteelCity....am I right in thinking that you don't take the polar bear issue seriously? :(
This is IMPORTANT! grr. And it tells us something about HER.
(and what's up with that hair do anyway? It looks like there's a balloon under there.)
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 10:59:36 PM | | And you are not indicative of the Average American. You are a liberal tree-hugging hippy and your opinion ultimately matters none. admit it, Democrats could put a freaking loaf of Bread up for office and you would vote for it. That's not most people. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:01:32 PM |
(and what's up with that hair do anyway? It looks like there's a balloon under there.)
Now I get it. Something about women and heirarchy....all those studies we read about in b. school were right. Something just 'clicked' about many of the comments in todays threadS. Good night.  | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:02:07 PM | I think this is a very shrewd move by the republican party. Although I do hope voters are much smarter and can see through this thin veil to cover up the next four years promise of the republican party, more of Bush. I would have voted for McCain way back when he stood on his own principles, but he sold out to the present administration and its cronies. Its scary to see people would even consider the possibility of voting for McCain considering the last 8 years. Tell me what am I overlooking. Anything is better than standing in the SOS and saying that it smells rosy. As far as experience neither party could bring that argument up. In reality ( which this election is not even attempting to approach), the real issues should be on the table. I don't care how many homes you have, I don't care about how young you are. Just have common sense , the good of the country, good of the people above all and set goals in how to get our country out of this big mess the big A hole, who is wasting our time and lives, occupying the White house.
The republican party is desperate, grasping at ideas that do not make sense. Although this is a shrewd move it is also a look of desperation . Scary to have someone who is unknown as a Vice President, with such radical ideas. No middle ground. We had 8 years of that and see were that's got us. You get more respect with a quite strength than you get with a beat the chest yelling at the top of your lungs strength. This present administration has not learned this and if McCain willing to continue the same, nothing changes.
This choice will help McCain with the uninformed, uneducated, short sited, fear mongrels,the fearful, and just plain bigoted crowd.
Well if worse come to worse Bush already pre-paid for a Supreme court decision if it comes down to it. (Besides he still hasn't finished paying off his supporters so he needs another 4 years) | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:05:03 PM | So...SteelCity....am I right in thinking that you don't take the polar bear issue seriously? :(
No don’t' get me wrong I’m all for preserving wildlife, but the way I see it is Alaska is soo huge that moving the polar bears a 100 miles in Alaska to another frozen area isn't going to do any harm. That's the way I look it. Athough I would like to see a compromise be done though. Any oil companies that drill up there has to put in so much money per year to help preserve the Alaskan polar bear population. I mean, that’s the least they can do from moving them out of their original area. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 11:06:35 PM |
And you are not indicative of the Average American. You are a liberal tree-hugging hippy and your opinion ultimately matters none. admit it, Democrats could put a freaking loaf of Bread up for office and you would vote for it. That's not most people.
OK. So you don't think that the "average American" is concerned about the influence of oil companies on the policies of our politicians?
And btw, I'm not remotely "hippy"-like, nor am I a "tree hugger." I mock vegetarians as much as the next person. But I don't like the idea of a governor taking action to deny endangered status to a clearly endangered species. Are you saying that worrying about polar bears is somehow a stain on a person's character?
And no, I wouldn't vote for a loaf of bread. I put a LOT of thought into my vote.
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And, btw, 04, I really WAS kidding about the hairdo, and regret making the comment. I think she's a really beautiful woman, and her husband is hot as hell!
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:06:36 PM | Soooo you like her or dislike her? Personally, I like her. At least from what I've seen and heard of and from her so far. I normally vote Republican but before today was going to vote Democrat.
She wants to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and has sued to stop the federal government from making the polar bear an endangered species. Apparently, she is pro- life, since she is a strong anti-abortionist. Would you rather her be pro-choice and in favor of adding the polar bears to the endangered species list? I don't recall reading anything or hearing her say anything about killing off the polar bears and drilling in the ANWR.
This is why I hate politics... you can't have everything your way like you can at Burger King  . | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 11:08:19 PM |
So...SteelCity....am I right in thinking that you don't take the polar bear issue seriously? :(
No don’t' get me wrong I’m all for preserving wildlife, but the way I see it is Alaska is soo huge that moving the polar bears a 100 miles in Alaska to another frozen area isn't going to do any harm. That's the way I look it. Athough I would like to see a compromise be done though. Any oil companies that drill up there has to put in so much money per year to help preserve the Alaskan polar bear population. I mean, that’s the least they can do from moving them out of their original area. | |
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