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| Factcheck..It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:54:22 PM | Meanwhile, Palin made her first post RNC appearance today, she read from some cards and her spokeswoman hurled a few accusations that there's a nasty story about Sarah on daily kos, which liberal don't even take seriously. I'd get my news from perez hilton before the daily kos.
So I'm seriously just thinking of voting for her spokeswoman as a write-in, cause she showing far more courage and preparedness. | |
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| Factcheck..It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 5:58:54 PM | 'Well -- if I lived in the US -- which I don't -- I would have a very hard time voting for the Democrats on this one. Anyone that has wanted to be President since learning to walk, but has never had an executive post, never operated a business, never administered a town, city, county or a state -- has already written his memoirs twice and he hasn't even done much except make inspirational speeches sets off some serious alarms for me'
Interesting. But since you don't live in the US, I take it that you don't feel threatened by the thought of someone with all those anger management issues, possible senility and with no evidence of an intellect, becoming the president of the US? If you are not, you ought to be. Remember that the US has the most advanced weaponry in the world. We are not exactly hoping to strap nuclear war heads to the back of a shaggy goat and direct it to find our enemies; our delivery system is very precise. If that doesn't bother you as a member of the international community, I envy your fortitude. Mistaken though it might be. McCain is more of a warrior than Bush ever was. The lizards bob their heads in homage at his passage. They realize what danger he represents. You ought to be quaking in your boots, moccasins or slippers or whatever your preferred footwear is.
To say nothing of Obama, who has a law degree from one of the most prestigious universities in the US and by extension, the world. Who is familiar with legislatures and how they operate. Who engenders good will, wherever he goes. You ought to set up an image of him in your parlor and pray every morning that he ascends to the oval office in lieu of McCain. That would be prudent. And I d rather have a man who has been coveting the presidency for some time. He probably has some well laid out plans. As opposed to some other person who might have been having her morning coffee when she was informed that she was a prime candidate for the executive office.... | |
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| Factcheck..It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 6:00:52 PM |
Interesting. But since you don't live in the US, I take it that you don't feel threatened by the thought of someone with all those anger management issues, possible senility and with no evidence of an intellect, becoming the president of the US?
for a minute, I thought you meant Palin. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 6:32:15 PM |
p.s. Bush is out the door..why is he continually brought up in conjunction with McCain. McCain is his own man.
Because the GOP has McCain's balls in a Dixie cup (as demonstrated by him not choosing the running mate he wanted ~ Joe Lieberman).
By the way, just an FYI: gas was $1.46 when Dubya took office. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 6:40:29 PM | McCain is his own man
McCain WAS his own man... at some point... in the past.
I remember rooting for him when he decried the Religious Right trying to bluster their way into politics. I remember rooting for him when he recognized the issue of climate change. I remember rooting for him when he was pushing his campaign finance bill. I rooted for him when he opposed GW Bushes tax cuts. I rooted for him when he shut down Mitt Romney over the U.S. promoting torture.
But that was then... and this is now... and McCain's surrounded himself with a lot of the usual suspects (and toadies who front for them)... he's backed off of just about all the 'maverick' stances he once had. He's got his nose so far up the butt of the 'christian' fundamentalists that he must be breathing out the back of his head...
Where is that man that McCain WAS?... I wish he'd come back. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:11:02 PM |
Where is that man that McCain WAS?... I wish he'd come back.
I have been unceremoniously hissed out of a venue or two for saying that I could live with McCain as POTUS.
I am still hoping, just in case, DIE...oops, Premier Election Solutions does it's thing that McCain is just doing what I wish Kerry had done last time around and is fighting anyway he knows how to win the position he wants.
Once upon a time we used to say about certain situations, "you can't blame a guy for trying". Maybe that is what McCain is doing.
Then I think, the man voted 90% with Bush, and then I think again, those people on Capital Hill often do things that are expedient when they don't see the vote as crucial or their vote won't make a difference...
Just twistin' in the wind... sittin' on the dock of the bay...
wishin' on a stah... | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:17:09 PM | So... like maybe, if he wins the election... he'll let leak a bunch of undisclosed Palin skeletons... and after she resigns he'll bring in Lieberman?
I know I'd be respecting him a lot more right now if he'd gone with Lieberman and told the fundys to take a hike. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:25:18 PM | | In 2000, I liked McCain quite a bit. I would have swallowed naked flames if that sacrifice would have meant that he would gain the office over Bush. With a proven military record I liked him because I felt that he was sincere. He was also a maverick, his own man, etcetera. I have learned a few things since that have rather chilled my ardor. Besides, at this time, more than ever, we need a President with the potential to undo the great harm that our current president has wreaked both internally and abroad. I believe Obama, with his 'lofty dreams,' his amiability and his intellect, is just such a man. And no, I am not one of those die hard fans of him. I would not throw my panties at him during his inspired speeches, even if I wasn't accustomed to wearing boxers. I just feel that hear and now, in this current race, he is the best we have. And if people are 'hissing you out of venues,' I think that's rather immature. In this forum, we would have a debate to see whether your support for McCain is one that you arrived at by credible reasons.... | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:28:30 PM | http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Daily show is awesome for showing the incredible inability of Republicans to apply the same standards to Republican and Democratic party members.
It includes Bill O'Reilly talking out of both sides of his mouth on single moms being a personal issue. It shows****Morris calling the sexist card on Palin when he attacked Clinton based on her Gender (and harshly I might add accusing her of hiding behind her apron strings) It shows good old Rove attacking Tim Kain who had more experience as a governor and mayor of a MUCH larger city than Palin for not being appropriately experienced and "not ready" for being president.
It's oooooook if you're a Republican....
hell it even has Palin talking about WHINING FEMALE CANDIDATES.
In 2008. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 8:34:17 PM | Interesting. But since you don't live in the US, I take it that you don't feel threatened by the thought of someone with all those anger management issues, possible senility and with no evidence of an intellect, becoming the president of the US? If you are not, you ought to be. Remember that the US has the most advanced weaponry in the world. We are not exactly hoping to strap nuclear war heads to the back of a shaggy goat and direct it to find our enemies; our delivery system is very precise.
Well, having just watched the McCain speech -- I would say he is not senile and having lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis I really know the feeling that one might be dead by tomorrow due to some misstep of a diplomatic power play more than half a continent away... As for Obama having a Harvard Law degree -- I seem to recall JFK had a Harvard degree in international affairs and that didn't stop him from taking the world to the brink of nuclear war and the Bay of Pigs fiasco... | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 8:51:28 PM | http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Everybody should watch this, ESPECIALLY for the Rove clips.
Thanks for the link, charles.
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 8:54:06 PM | | I missed the speech huh? Oh well i'll catch it on my DVR along with the million other things i got recorded and still haven't watched. I heard it was pretty good, but i'm going to have to watch it. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 11:22:33 PM | Think of this for a moment.
Palin was mayor of Wasilla, a small Alaskan town, for a sort period of time.
When she took office, the town had zero debt. When she left office, it had nineteen million dollars worth.
Palin Left Behind Almost $19 Million In Long-Term Debt, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the bonded long-term debt was $18,635,000. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—there was no general obligation debt. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10]
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/09/palin_v_reality.php
Sounds a little like what happened to the rest of America, over the same time period, doesn't it ? 
REALITY: PALIN HAS A LT. GOVERNOR WHO IS A FORMER OIL LOBBYIST, HIRED WASILLA’S FIRST FEDERAL LOBBYIST (A FORMER STEVENS STAFFER) & HAD THE SUPPORT OF ENTRENCHED ALASKA POLITICIANS DURING HER 2006 RACE.
Palin’s Oil & Gas Appointee Is Former Lobbyist for TransCanada. “Marty Rutherford, who leads Gov. Sarah Palin’s gas pipeline team, made $40,200 in 2003 while consulting in Juneau for a pipeline subsidiary of TransCanada. TransCanada is one of the companies bidding for a state license to build a pipeline to carry gas to market from Alaska’s North Slope. It’s not a disqualifier, but the past connection deserves a second thought.” [Anchorage Daily News editorial, 12/15/07]
Palin “Counting on Her Lieutenant Governor Candidate… Former Oil Lobbyist” to Help Win Oil Industry Support. “The defiantly grass-roots nature of the campaign may have distanced her from certain traditional centers of power in Alaska. The oil industry is one -- but the campaign says it is counting on her lieutenant governor candidate, Parnell, a former oil lobbyist and legislator, to help there.” [Anchorage Daily News, 10/24/06]
In Her 2002 Campaign for Lieutenant Governor, Palin Raised ‘About 10 Percent Of Her Campaign Fund’ From Veco, An Oil Company At the Heart of Federal Investigation. “While mayor of Wasilla, Palin ran for lieutenant governor in 2002. She gathered $5,000 -- or about 10 percent of her campaign fund -- from Veco officials or their wives along the way.” [Anchorage Daily News, 9/6/06]
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/09/palin_v_reality.php
She's had lobbyists on the inside of her administration too, and has hired them in Washington to push for things she's wanted.
Whenever there’s a corrupt system, then you’re going to have these birds of prey descend on it to get their share of the spoils.
- John McCain
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12678.html
Have any of you ever researched just how many lobbyists McCain has on board his staff ? Who they are, who they represent ?
Not only does the McCain campaign have more current and former lobbyist bundlers than any other candidate, but McCain has more current and former lobbyists working on his campaign staff than any other candidate in the 2008 presidential election. Media Matters for America has previously catalogued the extensive number of lobbyists and their deep connections to industries, such as the communications industry, which McCain oversaw as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee.
http://mediamattersaction.org/freeride/lobbyists/
Those "birds of prey" have flocked and nested in McCain's offices, like some Hitchcock film. McCain could probably get a federal government grant as an owner of an aviary.
http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/
They are both steadfastly against those lobbyists and special interest people, right ?
They are going to arrive in Washington together on that snowmobile in January 09, roll up to that K street gang hideout, throw them up against the wall, slap some handcuffs on those perps , and yell - "BOOK 'em, Danno ! " , right ?
If you are still innocent enough to still believe that, I've got some land in Alaska I'd like to offer you a great deal on, as well as an incredible offer on a half-finished bridge.
This was a Speech to Nowhere.
It was a Speech to Nowhere when Palin said that "I told the Congress 'Thanks but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere, because that was a lie, and the worst kind of lie in American politics, a blatant falsehood that showed utter contempt for the American people that Palin pledged to serve, assuming we are too stupid to look up or know that truth, that she pushed for those funds in Congress and while she got great political mileage out of announcing that she was killing the project, she still has not returned the funds to American people.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin also boasted seconds before that other lie of fighting against wasteful earmarks in Congress, even though she pushed for and accepted $27 million of such grants when she was mayor of Wasilla.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin said that "we've got lots" of oil and gas this country, and while one supposes that all depends upon what you definition of the words "lots" is, the production of oil in the United States has been irrevocably on the decline since 1970, and with her words she showed this nation that she and John McCain will perpetrate the dangerous myths that began with Ronald Reagan at his acceptance speech in 1980, that sunny optimism is the solution to all our energy woes, and not a posture that put energy research on a war footing, or requires moral leadership on conservation, mass transit, or any other common sense answers whatsoever.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin boasted that "I stood up to the special interests, and the lobbyists, and the Big Oil companies," and the audience cheered -- after eight brutal years of the same crowd's cheering for two oilmen in the White House who fiddled while $4-a-gallon gas burned and while American men and women died in a needless war fought on top of an oilfield, and while lobbyist friends like Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed got rich at the same time.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin had the nerve to talk at length about John McCain's "torturous interrogations" in the very same speech when she all but condoned the continuation of similar, abhorrent practices that have been directed for eight years by our own U.S. leaders, when she stated that Democrats are "worried that someone won't read them [terrorism suspects] their rights."
It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin belittled "community organizers" -- thousands of Americans who work long hours for little pay in some of the toughest neighborhoods, trying to assist the American Dream that even the poorest among us can pull themselves out of the muck with a helping hand. Palin and other GOP speakers have turned a noble job into a dirty word tonight -- shame on you! Listen to what CNN's Roland Martin said after Palin's speech was over.
My two parents are sitting home in Houston, Texas and they are both community organizers and the GOP and Sarah Palin might have well have said "being community organizers doesn't matter" to my parents face. I'm disgusted. Community organizers keep people in their homes, keep their lights on, keep food in the fridge.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because it made no mention of the men that Sarah Palin and John McCain are running to replace -- their names are****Cheney and George W. Bush, in case you've forgotten this week -- and no acknowledgment that as many 80 percent of Americans believe this country is on the wrong track, or that you can't solve a nation's problems when you deny they exist.
It was a Speech to Nowhere because...well, I urge everyone to read the text, without Palin's sharp delivery or her adoring fans in the crowd and in the press box, and tell me where there is any kind of policy at all -- except for the short boilerplate passage on energy -- or any mention of the issues that concern everyday Americans, including the No. 1 issue of the economy. Show me the part where this "grand slam" of speech touches on how citizens can afford health care or sending their kids to college.
But more than anything else, it was a Speech to Nowhere because for all the acclaim, the great bulk of it was devoted to one thing, and that is the one thing that millions of Americans are talking about in 2008 when we talk about "change" -- to the ugliest kind of "pit bull" politics, to use Palin's words, that tear down the other side with cheap ad hominem attacks, surrounded by a cloud of half-truths (uh, those "Greek columns"...did you actually even watch Obama's speech? Because there weren't any) and ridiculous innuendo about "parting the waters" which means nothing but fires up a big hockey rink full of Dittoheads. These kind of vicious attacks -- without having the grace to acknowledge that, despite some real differences on issues with Obama, that he has already accomplished something impressive that says something positive about America and the progress we've made -- were utterly lacking in class. And this is what Tom Brokaw considers "winning" -- have we really sunk that low as a nation?. The people of America want and deserve a real debate, now trash talk from the basketball point guard who was once called "Sarah Barracuda."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Sad.html
The "speech to nowhere" , that's certainly what it was alright. Great taste, zero calories, fills you up without giving you any nourishment at all. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/4/2008 11:30:49 PM | " I seem to recall JFK had a Harvard degree in international affairs and that didn't stop him from taking the world to the brink of nuclear war and the Bay of Pigs fiasco..."
What makes JFK brilliant is that he got Cuba to stop pointing missiles at us.
ps. I grew up during that too. Difference between us is that I don't use it as a justification for certainly destroying thousands more American families by pre-emptively striking in agressive military actions even more countries for more false reasoning. McCain does promise just that. | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/5/2008 12:56:17 AM | Think of this for a moment;
I just finished reading a story about Sarah Palin on AOL that was actually positive. A distinct change from the last few days. In the story they suggest that programs like 'the View' and Oprah are expressing interest in having her on their shows. No surprise there since her popularity has soared. Her face is about to be everywhere and her opportunities to sway voters is about to become plentiful. Just think; She's attractive with a life story movies are made about and a compelling message of change that exceeds Obama's. She is personable and is a strong woman. Her airtime will far surpass Obama's, ratings you know and the fact that folks (just like many on these boards) who've gone out of their way to discredit or smear her only serves to add to her image and increase her popularity. Her task will be to express herself in a likeable, competent manner and Obama will be yesterday's old news. She does afterall have an eighty percent approval rating in her state, People do like her. She's taken America by storm in less than a week.
I think her 'speech to nowhere' is going to take her to the White House.
She's just geting started | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/5/2008 1:01:34 AM |
She's attractive
yay!
with a life story movies are made about
like 'Mommy Dearest' or 'Psycho'?
and a compelling message of change that exceeds Obama's.
What dark crevice of your imagination did you yank that out of? | |
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| It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/5/2008 3:18:13 AM | | I think you're giving her too much credit. What's so extraordinary about her life? She grew up the product of a two parent family with (for all we know now) little or no drama. She married her high school sweetheart, went to college and got an AA in journalism, came in second place in a beauty pageant. Started having babies and got them involved in sports. (So far pretty tame here). If you're talking about her 'rise to stardom' politically, it seemed to me when she herself described it, a series of strokes of luck. I don't know if Oprah will have her...she's a book burner. They are overplaying her accomplishments too much for her to be scrutinized too closely. But we'll see. | |
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