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Posted: 8/31/2008 10:27:52 PM | Lots of talks about mechanics here, and lots of other talk trying to make all people conform to a particular preference or not, but it's been my experience that the quality of sex is a symptom, not the cause, of the health of a relationship.
Sure, my fantasies are full of perfect sex from perfect women. They often do include a mouth eager to swallow my cum, along with all sorts of other delights focused on my pleasure. But those are fantasies.
In real life once a relationship progresses to the loving stage, then sex becomes making love, and that means shared joy in mutual pleasure. The particulars of which parts fit where when and exactly how are discovered together, all in the context of physically expressing love to the extent that each can almost feel the same sensations the other is feeling at any given moment.
If the sex is bad, it usually isn't the sex that needs to be fixed. It's whatever aspect of the rest of the relationship that has led to an inability to make love well.
In this case I'd be much more concerned about the whole dynamic that has led to this situation. If the OP wants to restore or establish a healthy marriage, I'd think at the very least an honest, out-of-the-bedroom discussion needs to take place. Maybe counseling would be a good option. Clearly there is frustration on both sides, and I don't think that will be resolved by one or the other capitulating.
But that's just my take.
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Posted: 8/31/2008 10:37:51 PM | | This is the kind of crap that make it more worthwhile to spend $500.00 on a hooker and another $100.00 on her dinner than listen to whining about normal sexual activities, even for free. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:15:45 PM | | That wouldn't slow me down.I got my ''redwings" at 21.I love giving oral.I get a great deal of pleasure giving a woman pleasure. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:35:11 PM | what !! are u serious hes actually getting pissy cuz u wont swallow his load
i'd tell him to swallow his own shit and stop sleeping with him see how he likes that
he should just be thankful hes even getting any | |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 11:53:25 PM | | once I get rid of it ,who cares what you do with it ,save it in a coffee can if you want,whats the difference | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 4:55:36 AM | wvwaterfall, you hit the nail on the head. Thanks for a common-sense man's-view of this situation. <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>
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Posted: 9/1/2008 5:09:42 AM |
sorry, I couldn't resist. This thread reminded me too much of a joke I read years ago!!
I swear reading this made me nauseous! 
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:03:51 AM | | First of all, i find when i'm really turned on by a guy, i love it when he cums on my lips, face, etc. I don't consider him treating me like a slut, it's just hot sex. If it's mutual, it's fine. Second, i was married for 13 years and absolutely HATED giving head. The diet of the man DEFINATELY has a lot to do with what his cum tastes like. Smoking also plays a role in the taste. But the bottom line is, the hotter you are for the guy, the hotter the sex. Now that i'm free to explore my fantasies, i've never been more turned on by sex and pleasuring a guy. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:07:47 AM | Ninki, I've agreed with your position all along. I do, however, need to disagree with your lauding wvwaterfall's "common-sense man's-view". I think he hit the nail on the head from a common sense point of view - gender aside. We all said (okay the rational ones) that there were deeper issues.
This issue is not a male/female issue. We've all said (okay again the rational ones) that it was more about the state of relationship than just him cumming in her mouth. I really don't think it has anything to do with gender. I also don't think its pro or con swallow. I don't care male or female - if something makes your partner feel bad or in this case ill, why push it? It's just cruel. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:10:11 AM | | Waterfalls right, a loving relationship is about pleasing the other. asking her to swallow when you know she detests it is asking her to detest U. On the flip side mine wife told me she didn't like when i finish in her mouth, that was over 20 yrs ago, now she would just love if I could. My mind has been trained,she is awsum but 30 mins of fantastic oral still wont make me give it up. she can steal it with a hand job in less than 5...lol As far as every one telling her to make him drink it , I think he should....and also take a dildo up his as before anal, I have done both ....whats good for the goose in good for the gander AND NO I'M NOT GAY lol | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:03:26 AM |
Yucky? Thats my love gunk your dissing young lady :) Have you ever considered that men get a mouthful of your come everytime he goes down on you? And he cant just swallow and be done with it he stays down there with your coming washing his face and mouth? I'm Just saying
So sorry for dissing your "love gunk", but honestly, why don't YOU give it a taste if it's not that bad? Also, to be honest I don't care too much about guys going down on me, from my experience i've never actually ENJOYED a guy going down on me anyways...sad but true. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:02:48 AM | | It can be an issue because it makes a man feel totally accepted and appreciated. It's certainly the ultimate expression of that for me. I once had a lover who took it into her mouth and somehow discreetly spat it out into a tissue -- she must have been Houdini as I never saw that part (she later told me when I asked about it -- then I wished I hadn't asked though). He could ejaculate into a cup filled with fruit yogurt and she could lick at it maybe -- perhaps that would work for both. Or another lover I was with once let me ejaculate on her cheek instead -- though that was not quite as erotic mind you. Still, a man must accept a woman's desires, so long as she's given it the good old college try a few times at least (because it might just be a psychological hang up that could be worked thru). | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:15:11 AM |
I think that while most of the men in this thread think it's her that's being completely selfish and most of the women in this thread think it's him that's being completely selfish ... Actually, I have to laugh when I read/see all these whining big babies in here ... "My woman won't give me a bj, take the cum, and swallow it." There happens to be many women out there that have never even had an orgasm much less had a man be considerate enough to go down on them appropriately ... and we have men in here who are getting bj after bj and have the nerve to b!tch about the fact that the lady is not taking their cum (which truly does make some of us GAG) into their mouths and swallow it no less.
At least the OP is giving her man a bj and apparently has been doing so from the beginning. It's just now that it's become "not good enough"? Apparently he's not grateful for getting regular bj's ... Noooooo ... it's not good enough unless he can dump his load in her mouth and watch her swallow? WTF?????
OP ... I say you need to figure out what makes him gag and then serve him up a huge serving of it and tell him you feel slighted if he can't bring himself to finish it off. Whatever it is that makes him gag ... get it and set it in front of him and see if he'll finish it off ... just so you won't feel slighted ... get your feelings hurt. I'm betting he'll decline.
I have one more suggestion ...
Screw his brains out for about 3 or 4 days and then tell him you'll go down on him and take it and swallow it. By then, he'll be so damn dry, he'll be lucky to squirt a drip in your mouth ... and that's not even worth the action it takes to swallow. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:36:28 AM |
Apparently he's not grateful for getting regular bj's ... Noooooo ... it's not good enough unless he can dump his load in her mouth and watch her swallow? WTF?????
Excuse me? Grateful for sex? Sorry, but I don't buy into the golden p*ssy argument. If you aren't getting something out of it, become a nun. I want a woman who is sexually compatible and I'm not going to apologize for what that means. If she feels like she's doing me a favor, she needs to find someone who is ok with that concept. I'm not that person. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:23:24 AM | The op has been married for 8 years .. I would say he knew rather they were sexually compatible from the get go , he was happy with the fact that she didn't even like giving blow jobs or he wouldn't have married her , let alone swallowing . I would say there is something else bothering their marriage , to where now lil things are giving him something to **** about .
I am a girl who loves giving and receiving ,but again , i most def. feel for either to be good the person giving must truly enjoy doing so , so to me if someone dont like giving might as well not bother .
The whole part about oral sex in giving is the turn on of watching the other person feeling good and knowing you are a part of making that person feel good , hearing the moans feeling their body react to your mouth and hand , there are times ive almost orgasmed along with the guy just feeling his reactions .
So all these suggestions of fake it for him girl just don't fly with me anyways , a person can see rather someone enjoys giving or not . Now if is truly just the taste she dislikes I said it once and I will say it again BUY semenex it makes a mans semen taste sweet and you can put it into a protein shake which is good for anyone anyway . | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:28:04 AM | Look after your man and swallow it....whats up with you?
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:38:53 AM |
Apparently he's not grateful for getting regular bj's ... Noooooo ... it's not good enough unless he can dump his load in her mouth and watch her swallow? WTF????? Excuse me? Grateful for sex?
I wrote it like that because there are a number of gentlemen in this thread who have openly admitted they would be grateful for the "regular bj's" (without the cum in the mouth and swallowing) ... and can't understand or have no sympathy for the other whiners in here who not only want the bj's but have to have their partner take the cum in their mouth AND swallow ... in order to be satisfied.
Doing all of that for a partner in itself is not an unreasonable demand (IMO). It only becomes unreasonable when a man demands it of his partner knowing that it makes her sick.
How SATISFYING is that for a man when he demands something of the one he supposedly loves ... and she follows through ... but gets sick on it? Does that make a man feel good? Does he even care? Apparently, some don't!!!!
Getting sick while performing a sexual act meant to please your partner ... doesn't that rather take away from the part where the sex is supposed to be mutually satisfying? | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:44:25 AM | Maybe she should just swallow it???
THEN, she would have every right to just vomit in his face!!!!
And he should be nothing but accepting of it, because he loves her and wants to do that for her!!!
(notice the dripping sacrcasm) | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:48:28 AM | | Personally, I don't understand why anyone would try to force or manipulate their partner into doing something that they are not comfortable with for whatever reason. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:05:25 PM |
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would try to force or manipulate their partner into doing something that they are not comfortable with for whatever reason.
What we have to remember is that we are only getting half of the story. It may very well be a symtom of a larger issue in the marriage, as stated eliquantly above. And it may be a mountain made out of a mole hill, as the saying goes. But to quote another saying, there are always three sides to every story: yours, mine and the truth. That doesn't mean anyone is lying it means that we all have our own perspectives and when we see something from all agles it makes the truth of the situation alot more clear.
I think cheerleading for either side isn't the correct response. And I don't buy into either sides arguements. Niether the "she just should" or the "he should be greatful for anything". | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:15:05 PM | nowcall, is there any food you absolutely don't like? If so, how would you answer if someone told you you haven't given (insert name of food here) the 'old college try' and might have 'a psychological hangup' about it that could be worked thru (sic). ???
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Posted: 9/1/2008 1:17:40 PM | | Have him eat a lot of fruit, no alcohol, tobacco or weed. It dehydrates the body and makes sperm thicker. Have him drink tons more water it will dilute it, and if that doesn't take bitterness or consistency away learn to go down farther on it when he cums. Throat doesn't have taste buds or texture problems unless his goo is like sand. | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 2:19:05 PM | | I try and try but i just can't cum in a woman's mouth with her sucking me off. It's a mental thing | |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:54:20 PM |
I try and try but i just can't cum in a woman's mouth with her sucking me off. It's a mental thing Well given that you're here for an intimate encounter ... maybe you'll get all kinds of opportunities to do your best to learn how to dump your load in a woman's mouth and if you're lucky ... maybe you'll find a woman who is willing to swallow.
As much as we enjoy going down on a man ... some of us just can't handle it. | |
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