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Posted: 9/2/2008 9:41:14 AM | Look... (rolls eyes....) I have so tried to STAY OUT OF this thread!.... LOL.
Look we all agree no one should be forced to do anything sexualy they dont want to. Everyone should be open to TRYING new things but..... once you know your NOT good with it then... uhhhh... just say NO ! LOL
OK now I gotta add one piece for the open minded gals that like this... Look I honestly I have been BLESSED to experiance this from a number of ladies. Pros and amatuers.. (wink) HUGE variance in these matters as far as technique goes! (smile)
My ex was the best I have EVER had. Serious stuff here ladies... listen up! as her secret was easy and might help the OP also. (I can NOT believe I am posting this) Crap I gotta hurry and do 5 more posts so it flows off my profile... LMAO
Right as I was about to cum she would SUCK really hard. It was unbelieveable. I cant even explain the feeling! LOL. I mean it will roll your eyes back into your head...
And in all the people before or after she was the ONLY one that did this REALLY HARD and she always smiled and explained.... That she sucked it down so fast because that way she didnt taste it at all. I mean this was like getting a BJ from a wetvac at the end! LOL Rocked my world..... LOL Sorta like a gal that just discovered sex toys.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 9:43:34 AM | ^^^^ AHHHHHH!!
NO! Ladies...do NOT pay attention to that. That HURTS! It is like giving a hickey to your head. It is already full of blood and it will not feel good.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 10:56:30 AM | ok its time for me to put my 2 cents into this. and maybe this will get me flamed on by a few certain females. but im willing to drop my information here anyway. are you ready for this? this is a REAL NEWS FLASH!.................PEOPLE CUM! wow shocker eh? i certainly LOVE when women cum on my face....in my mouth. I'll lick it up with reckless abandon. matter of fact....i once was in a situtation with a girl where i fingered her to 2 orgasms....couldnt do anything else cuz her infant was being fussy at 2 am i might add....after i was done i asked her how she tasted....she shrugged so i put my fingers in my mouth and licked the stuff off and swallowed and she looked at me and said, "EWWWWW THATS GROSS!" I was gross for swallowing her cum....and liking it? ok i guess that makes me a freak or a sexual deviant....but i love it when girls cum....some women cum very little and some women cum alot ie gush. i have ZERO problems eating out  and am willing to showcase this talent to the lucky woman who wins my heart any day of the week. on the same token....whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. so if im going to be swallowing her cum she should be ready, willing and ABLE to swallow mine. its another bodily fluid....spit is a bodily fluid....but ladies dont mind swapping SPIT now do they? i agree that it seems there are other problems in the OP's marraige that seem to be filtering over to the bedroom. but the bottom line is everybody does things they are not comfortable with to please a partner. some guys shave themselves down there to please a partner. some are willing to go dancing to please a partner. or how about the guys who are willing to go learn about interior decorations or paint a room PINK? Personally i find it appalling that people are talking about using sex as a weapon! its supposed to be FUN AND PLEASUREABLE FOR BOTH PARTNERS! and im sorry....but im not going to just accept a woman who wants me to pleasure her to completion but wont reciprocate. if she cant swallow because she finds it disgusting.....then i PERSONALLY FEEL THAT I AM DISGUSTING because it comes from me. if that is the case then i wont personally stick around long enough to come to a proposal stage. noone wants to be with someone they find disgusting or that the other person finds disgusting eh? MARRAIGE is about freaking compromises and making people happy and its a 2 way street. there are things i do not enjoy....but for the right partner i would do it....and they should be willing to do the same! Solocus has a very good head on his shoulders and it should all come down to trust and physical as well as emotional intimacy. i expect to get all that i need from my future wife, whoever she may be, just like i expect to be able to GIVE my future wife everything that SHE needs! in and out of the bedroom, it doesnt matter....they call it MAKING LOVE because you have to make love work! and please dont lecture me about it....my parents are in their 60s and are still happily married after 41 years! now that thats all said and done....this will show up in my profile which i am not scared by....now let the flaming begin from people who hate me because im opinionated. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:31:31 PM |
My ex was the best I have EVER had.
And yet! ...and yet, she's his EX! So even her wonderful BJ technique wasn't enough to hold this marriage together. See what that means? This is a small, insignificant thing that should not make or break a relationship.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:41:05 PM | I hear to change what you eat that day. What you eat has an effect on how it tastes...
and to each his own... talk, talk, talk. Make him do something he really doesn't like and then see how he feels. Say no, what is your second choice. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:46:33 PM | she should be ready, willing and ABLE to swallow mine. its another bodily fluid....spit is a bodily fluid....
So is urine, so is diarhoea, so is snot. Would you expect your wife to ingest those fluids? If not, then what makes semen special? Because it comes out of your p.enis? Oh, wait, pee comes out of there, too, hmmm...
For the record, I would never force the man I love to do something he hates or is uncomfortable with or that could make him sick. Like someone else said, this would be just cruel. My own enjoyment of whatever I like would be diminished greatly, if I'd force him to do it with me (like watch a chick-flick or go square-dancing, not that *I* enjoy those things), since I could sense his anguish, boredom, disgust, whatever. Love shouldn't be this hard. Relationships that are healthy are easy to maintain, they shouldn't be work. Once things in a relationship start becoming like chores, that means the relationship is in bad shape.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:52:02 PM | I wrote it like that because there are a number of gentlemen in this thread who have openly admitted they would be grateful for the "regular bj's" (without the cum in the mouth and swallowing) ... and can't understand or have no sympathy for the other whiners in here who not only want the bj's but have to have their partner take the cum in their mouth AND swallow ... in order to be satisfied.
I'm sympathetic, but the fact is, she's stuck in an eight year marriage with someone who wants her do that. Realistically, she her options are limited. You can be as idealistic as you want when you aren't the person who suffers the consequences.
Doing all of that for a partner in itself is not an unreasonable demand (IMO). It only becomes unreasonable when a man demands it of his partner knowing that it makes her sick.
I never said anything different, but I have the luxury of not being stuck in an eight year relationship without the benefit of considering what I wanted up front. I'm also not her husband and her husband isn't the one asking for advice, so telling her what her husband should do is rsther pointless. Her options are to learn to like it, suffer along or refuse. She has to live with the consequences, not you or I. Learning to like is the only thing that doesn't have negative consequences. Will you feel better if telling her what her husband should do ends up badly because he has a different idea?
I don't have to think her husband is doing the right thing to realize he might not agree with me. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:55:56 PM | Wow this is some funny stuff.. bottom line. Its amazing if you can find a girl who will do it.. but to expect one too. is kinda of selfish. Every guy wants to know the big three....1 swallow.. 2 anal.. and 3 Threeesomes... mainly becuase these are the main things girls "on average" will not do.. Ive been lucky enough to find one girl in my past who would do 2 of the 3..
I gotta tell ya.. if I was a girl i wouldnt let that sh!t anywhere near my mouth... but at the same time you gotta figure when Im down on a girl.. theres a constant flow of fluids in my mouth and on my face.. I dont let it effect me as im doing it for her and I know its turning her on and the reciprocation will be better if I do a good job lol.. my ex fiance was great at giving head but would never swallow so we devloped some interesting ways to finish that kept things nice.. nothin crazy but using her mouth and hands in an extremly sexy way when i was finishing would be sooo hot i wouldnt care if the cum shot up and hit the wall behind me or the back of her throat.. so i would say try something like that to take his mind of the fact its not going where he wants it but its still just as hot when its happeneing.. my first post.. couldnt have picked a better topic | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:25:06 PM | | How about telling him to cum on your face? Usually guys will say ok to that one. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:47:47 PM | DUH!!!
Change his diet, change his taste. Its not that hard. (no pun intended)
Depending on his eating habits, and if he is willing to give in order to get, then a change to his diet will change his taste. My ex drank gin and switching to bourbon made all the difference in the world. Try eliminating the spicy things first, for a week or two, and you'll have your answer. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 5:57:22 PM |
Realistically, she her options are limited.
I'd tell him to *never* bring it up again, or I'd see a divorce lawyer in the morning! And then *do* it IF he has the nerve to ask again! 
Learning to like is the only thing that doesn't have negative consequences.
Yes it does! She'll become angry and resentful and will start to take out that anger on him in many little ways. Unless he can get over this, I see no future for this marriage.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:40:53 PM | cum has never been proven to cause any type of physical disease. matter of fact it has 5 calories per serving...its on the net. and like i said...if im swallowing my wife's cum then she outta be willing to swallow mine. i feel like ive landed in the prude zone here | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:33:16 PM |
Hmm, can anyone say Bobbitt?
Gee, this will get you hooked up with a lot of guys here on POF :WTF Smiley face:
And yet! ...and yet, she's his EX! So even her wonderful BJ technique wasn't enough to hold this marriage together. See what that means? This is a small, insignificant thing that should not make or break a relationship
Have you ever considered this kind of mentality is why you might be divorced?
So is urine, so is diarhoea, so is snot. Would you expect your wife to ingest those fluids? If not, then what makes semen special? Because it comes out of your p.enis? Oh, wait, pee comes out of there, too, hmmm...
Where is that WTF smiley face, (moderators we really need one of these). Anyway, when I read an analogy like this and put it with your distain for semen in your mouth, I have to mention an observation I have had over the years. It seems like intelligence and a woman being at ease with sex, sexual situations, and sexual activities even if considered not normal, disgusting, or kinky by most, are directly related. I’m not sure why this might be the case, but maybe it has to do with the intelligent rationalization that we do often have to do things we don’t want to do in life. Maybe they understand what it means to be in a relationship and maintain that relationship. Maybe they understand the importance of making the ones you love happy?
On a final note, I really don’t believe swallowing is the issue with the OP’s husband. It's about finishing what she started and giving him the pleasure he desires. In fact, the OP does not even address swallowing except in the thread title. Maybe she thinks if he comes in her mouth she has to swallow?? I sincerely hope not and that she knows the other techniques possible to avoid swallowing. Perhaps her grammar is representative that she is French speaking and not poorly educated, but you have to wonder. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 7:12:06 AM | | A compromise .........my ex and I came up with......she didn't like me to come in her mouth and I did.......we used a non lubricated condom.....I got the sensation of coming in her mouth ...she got no taste worked out for both of us.... | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 2:34:23 PM |
Have you ever considered this kind of mentality is why you might be divorced?
Who says I'm divorced?
It seems like intelligence and a woman being at ease with sex, sexual situations, and sexual activities even if considered not normal, disgusting, or kinky by most, are directly related.
I consider myself fairly intelligent, not Mensa material, but still brighter than average. I also know very well what I like and what I don't like and won't be bullied into doing things that cause me distress. Now what's stupid about that?
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Posted: 9/3/2008 8:03:31 PM | dafreak1 (message 138) ...
cum has never been proven to cause any type of physical disease. Not sure about that. I remember that shortly after my surgery for a hysterectomy ... I developed an allergy to my husband's cum. For about 6 months, he had to use a condom so we could have sex and not cause me to break out in a horrible rash. Eventually the problem subsided, but it sure was uncomfortable there for a while until we discovered what the problem was.
if im swallowing my wife's cum then she outta be willing to swallow mine. Female cum is not the same consistency ... it's a lot thinner than male cum. That's one of the biggest problems with women swallowing.
Male cum is thick and sticky and clings to the mucous membranes in your mouth. That's what makes women gag on it. That's also why I have been suggesting that the men try swallowing a large amount of it ... just so they can get the feeling of what it's like to have it in their mouth ... feel it stick to the inside of their mouth and not move on down the throat.
The "gag" reflex is not normally voluntary. True ... with practice (sticking your finger down your throat) you can eventually practice tolerating a penis halfway down your throat, but there is no real practice for teaching yourself to enjoy cum clinging to your mucous membranes.
I guess what I don't understand is WHY ... if a man knows that it makes his partner sick ... WHY would he insist on it? Does that make a man feel good to cum in his partner's mouth and then sit (lay) there and watch her puke? Is it that much fun to see how you've made the one you supposedly love ... SICK?
dafreak1 ... you're young and probably really don't have all that much experience with this. But none of the men in here are too young to consider that if they really love their partner, they wouldn't think of making her sick.
i feel like ive landed in the prude zone here - Well no one said you have to stay ... don't even have to post in here ... it's that easy .... B-bye | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 8:44:35 PM |
Female cum is not the same consistency ... it's a lot thinner than male cum. That's one of the biggest problems with women swallowing.
I could use your same argument to draw the opposite conclusion.
I guess what I don't understand is WHY ... if a man knows that it makes his partner sick ... WHY would he insist on it? Does that make a man feel good to cum in his partner's mouth and then sit (lay) there and watch her puke? Is it that much fun to see how you've made the one you supposedly love ... SICK?
I wouldn't, so I avoid the problem by not dating women who are hung up about it. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 8:59:07 PM |
Who says I'm divorced?
Well, you say you're separated, which apart from the final dissolution of the marriage by a court, is pretty much the same thing. Obviously everything isn't exactly peachy. About the only difference is that you can't get remarried if you are separated. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 10:36:28 PM |
Female cum is not the same consistency ... it's a lot thinner than male cum. That's one of the biggest problems with women swallowing. I could use your same argument to draw the opposite conclusion.
Does that make a man feel good to cum in his partner's mouth and then sit (lay) there and watch her puke? Is it that much fun to see how you've made the one you supposedly love ... SICK? I wouldn't, so I avoid the problem by not dating women who are hung up about it.
I still say ... any man who insists it's just a "hang up" really needs to try a cup of his own cum. Let him experience how it clings to the mucous membranes ... how it just sticks there and then while he's doing that ... stick his finger down his throat ... all at the same time.
That would be the effect of having a penis squirting cum ... jammed in your mouth.
I've known some women who have told me it gags them so badly that in trying to keep from actually throwing up ... through the gagging process ... it causes the cum to go up through their nose.
Oh wait ... that's probably also fun to sit (lay) there and watch how you've made the one you supposedly love ... SICK ... eh? Whatever.
I'm just glad that any man I've been that intimately involved with was actually MATURE enough to understand that while I thoroughly enjoy going down on him ... I just can't handle the cum in my mouth and there is no way I could ever swallow it. I know ... I've honestly tried it. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 10:43:04 PM | | Tell him to taste it and ask if he minds! OR, as someone has already stated...compromise. As with anything, don't turn your mind off completely, just try to be a bit receptive to a compromise. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 11:38:17 PM | I don't see how ... female cum does not cling to the mucous membranes the same as male cum. It really is two different things ... not at all the same type of fluids.
That's the same argument as ``my sh*t don't stink.'' Of course you don't see how a male could be possibly have the difficulty going down on you that you do swallowing. You're a female and you'd b*tch if he did.
[Repeat of same argument already shot down]
I'm just glad that any man I've been that intimately involved with was actually MATURE enough to understand that while I thoroughly enjoy going down on him
Maturity is knowing what you want and finding someone compatible, with that, not waking up years later and discovering you're unhappy. The problem with lots of women is that their favorite phrase is ``I can't.'' | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 11:58:45 PM | This thread has now taught me soemthing , when men tell me wow you swallow or wow you like cum ? I NOW realize they are not joking that some women bitch about it , number one again shove that cock to the back of your throat you have no taste buds there GULP its gone done ditto ...
Bottom line the OP has not even been back on the thread to comment since she made it ,, and I would say if hes bringing it back up after 8 years of marriage there are underlying problems in the marriage .
Good god people why fight over this issue if you dont want to dont do it , if you do go for it . | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 3:02:51 AM | The reality is, once you have a woman who will give regular blowjobs and swallow, you no longer want a woman who:
a) has hang-ups about it because [enter excuse here]
b) can't take cum in her mouth because [enter excuse here]
c) won't swallow because [enter excuse here], but female cum is different so YOU better swallow her
d) claims to have TMJ so all your BJs will be 2-3 minutes forever
Sex is just part of the equation of a relationship, but it's an important part. If you can find a reason to limit it, you'll find reasons to limit other things, too. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 11:53:38 AM | Mr. Heptone you are the most idiot you could be in yr explanation.
Just because she didn't like to taste this thing you men produce ,that really tastes bad,
(yours must be worst as per yr photos!!) doenst mean she didn't love him. It doesn't mean that she doesn't like to give him pleasure!!
Next time, when you make love with yr dog (must be a dog) and you came, collect this in a cup and take in yr breakfast ! Enjoy... and tell me what do you think. After this you will be able to discuss this matter.
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