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| learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
Posted: 9/2/2008 12:41:15 PM |
If you see people throwing around the names "invisible pink unicorns" or "Flying Spaghetti Monsters" it's because these entities do, under these arguments have an equal chance of existing under such proofs...as annoying to some as that may seem.
I am sure that Plastic Jesus exists because I see people worshipping him all of the time. I am beginning to doubt the existence of the words Jesus spoke, and the wisdom they represent, because they continue to become more and more obscure. I am sorry if that comment would distract from the topic. Who knows, maybe the thought will banish the demons from a Plastic Jesus. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 12:56:31 PM | Because the proofs that allow for the existence of any spiritual being, god, what-have-you, from a philosophical point of view are identical. To regurgitate them here would of course take this thread way off-topic and it has been discussed to death on these forums. If you want further clarification I am sure you can either email me or consult the threads using search for Proof for God. There is no way to prove or disprove God but the same philosophical proofs that work for the God of the Bible support any other deity or spiritual beings existence. If you see people throwing around the names "invisible pink unicorns" or "Flying Spaghetti Monsters" it's because these entities do, under these arguments have an equal chance of existing under such proofs...as annoying to some as that may seem. Aha..gotcha. OK, Im in so far.
Well not to nitpick because we had a partial discussion about this offline...but it was one of this God's alleged biographers who said this about him and claims that God told him to say this...so really no matter how you slice it, it is second hand information. You may choose to believe differently and that is of course your right. Very kind of you, fine sir. 
OK, so second hand information...lessee..lets say I entertain the idea of said liars falsely claiming what they will..If a God did in fact exist, would He not be capable of "smiting"  these men, silencing their lies? I think that either one must believe that either the God of the Bible does exist, and has used prophets to communicate with His creation or there is no god, or the God of the Bible is not very smart nor powerful. Ya know, like a Forest Gump, skinny, Napoleon Dynamite kinda god? Doesnt sound much like the God I worship..
Lessay another god or many other gods exist and my God is a phony. OK, well why didn't he or she or them "smite" these men? Are these gods both dumb and puny?
I'll post more later but I have to go back to work - boo - first day back...if that isn't proof of some kind of malicious entity at work flipping calendar pages too quickly I don't know what is. Mmuuuaaaaaa | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:19:12 PM |
Lessay another god or many other gods exist and my God is a phony. OK, well why didn't he or she or them "smite" these men? Are these gods both dumb and puny?
It's a funny thing about my god. No god has ever significanly challenged "Truth" as the supreme existance within my view. Time still moves forward. Gravity is challenged, but not overcome. Pi still represents the constant involved in calculating the circumference or area of a circle relative to its radius or diameter. Defying truth is an easy way to get smitten by my god. Many have put on wings and tried to fly with disasterous results. Others have attempted to fight with fire or weather or volcanoes and other truths. Truth always wins, even when such things are survived. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 2:29:40 PM | Throwing more of my two cents in here...out of all the cultures and religions practiced throughout the world, I'm stumped why people automatically bring in God and Christ into discussions about exorcisms and possessions. There have been cases reported throughout the world, of people of many religions and faiths who have been "possessed" by some form of entity. Does the possession mean the person led an evil or bad life? No...just means that they are sensitive and are possible mediums to the supernatural.
There are many religions throughout the world that perform exorcists too. Usually the Shaman of the tribe if in a small village or Witch Doctor, etc etc. Keep an open mind that possessions may not have anything to do with religious beliefs or non-beliefs and that they have reportedly affected people of all cultures and religions...I think a possession can happen to anyone sensitive to entities or as I've said the supernatural in general.
There is not enough evidence to say that possessions are not possible. There has been many recorded events of exorcisms performed throughout the world...I think it's a fascinating subject myself...one with no right or wrong answers. And one that can affect anyone regardless of how they lived their life or what they believed in. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 3:13:10 PM |
Apologist~D.A: "Err..open to the idea of possession but not a believer in he who possess? Umm..how does that work exactly?
*although satan himself can, in fact posses, it is not he who actually does, normally, but a member of his posse."
I just don't believe in "satan", "the devil" or any entity like that who is the uber-bad-guy-ghost-whatever.
I'm open to the idea that we as living individuals have something called a soul which is the difference between being live + conscience versus dead. I'm open to the idea that a soul may then persist beyond death just outside of their body. At which time this would be a ghost, in theory at least.
Now this is where I would differ from a lot of religious people. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I don't believe in God or the devil. I'm open to the possibility that a ghost might be able to continue existing well beyond their death. The disposition of this ghost would probably be a lot like the disposition of the person when they were living. A good person would likely continue to be a good sort of spirit; a bad person would go on to be a bad sort of spirit.
I'm open to the possibility that a ghost most occasionally be able to interact with live people. If a ghost were malevolent then you might expect bad behavior from it. A variety of cultures seem to have anecdotes about incubi/succubi, poltergeists, angels/devils, spirits and such. I need not attach any religious overtone when I consider something like this.
To me it just seems like we witness people on an everyday basis. We don't witness the devil, he doesn't walk the streets in a red suit with horns. Nobody has taken a photo of him. It's much more likely that these are just people, now dead. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 3:55:15 PM | I just don't believe in "satan", "the devil" or any entity like that who is the uber-bad-guy-ghost-whatever.
I'm open to the idea that we as living individuals have something called a soul which is the difference between being live + conscience versus dead. I'm open to the idea that a soul may then persist beyond death just outside of their body. At which time this would be a ghost, in theory at least.
Now this is where I would differ from a lot of religious people. I don't believe in heaven or hell. I don't believe in God or the devil. I'm open to the possibility that a ghost might be able to continue existing well beyond their death. The disposition of this ghost would probably be a lot like the disposition of the person when they were living. A good person would likely continue to be a good sort of spirit; a bad person would go on to be a bad sort of spirit.
I'm open to the possibility that a ghost most occasionally be able to interact with live people. If a ghost were malevolent then you might expect bad behavior from it. A variety of cultures seem to have anecdotes about incubi/succubi, poltergeists, angels/devils, spirits and such. I need not attach any religious overtone when I consider something like this.
As far as I can tell, everything you wrote is right on.  Except you removed the Bible and its God from the mix. Everything else is fairly accurate. Mind telling me why you have removed the main Player and the "horned redman" from the mix? Just curious.
*and few believe that the  actually looks like that. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:22:11 PM |
Apologist~D.A: "As far as I can tell, everything you wrote is right on. Except you removed the Bible and its God from the mix. Everything else is fairly accurate. Mind telling me why you have removed the main Player and the "horned redman" from the mix? Just curious."
I've never met God nor the Devil. Nobody that I know has ever met them. Nobody in a very long time has either. There are no photos, no videotapes, no recordings, no... nothing. The only thing there is that suggests that God and the Devil exists is a collection of exceedingly-old "stories" of people who even themselves didn't have a personal experience.
The only story of an eyewitness account of God (to the best of my knowledge) was a single person (Moses) who saw a talking/burning bush. And yet we learn from Genesis that we're created in God's image. That would be a rather substantial discrepancy in the historical record.
What we *do* have in the form of anecdotal evidence is a countless collection of ghost sitings from people and this has been going on in all countries of the world and continues to do so. We didn't just *stop* having ghost sitings, say, at the turn of the century. I just read a police blotter of a ghost that raped two women in the Seattle area this year. If God exists then why aren't there interviews with God? Why isn't there anything in the form of concrete evidence of someone seeing God this year?
My answer to this would be that 2,000 or so years ago people were quite ignorant compared to us today. If you took a laser pen pointer back with you in time to biblical days and merely shined that laser pointer around on the ground in front of you a hundred people would have dropped to their faces, proclaiming you to be a god. Just because someone in the days of the Old Testament *thought* they saw a god that doesn't mean that I'd acknowledge that burning bush as a god. In fact I'd bet that if I took you back in a time machine that you'd be much more of a skeptic than you are now--you'd see how silly they were at times and how very fearful of the world around them. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:37:57 PM | So you are open to the possibility of "ghosts" ghouls and goblins, (that you have not seen, I presume),
I'm open to the possibility that a ghost might be able to continue existing well beyond their death.
Yet not to this God I keep bringing up because you've never seen Him
I don't believe in God or the devil.
I've never met God nor the Devil. Nobody that I know has ever met them. Errr...what am I missing?
Have you met a demon? A ghost? Yet you remain open to the possibility of their existence..But not God.
What we *do* have in the form of anecdotal evidence is a countless collection of ghost sitings from people
And how is this different from me telling you that God exist and I know Him? | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:43:04 PM |
Apologist~D.A: "So you are open to the possibility of "ghosts" ghouls and goblins, (that you have not seen, I presume), "
I've never personally seen a ghost. (I didn't say anything about ghouls/goblins, btw.) Several people have related directly to me that they've seen a ghost and they didn't appear to have some interesting reason to make it up. Each were rather terrified by the experience.
Apologist~D.A: "Yet not to this God I keep bringing up because you've never seen Him... And how is this different from me telling you that God exist and I know Him?"
Have you met him personally (in a visual form)? Can you describe exactly what you saw?
Or is this a voice that you heard inside your head as if it might be your own conscience? Was it a voice that sounded different from anyone you already know?
Or is it that you have a feeling and/or belief that God exists?
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I'm going to guess that it's the third or possibly the second here, that you have a belief that God exists or you have heard a voice in your head that either directly said that he was God or that you just guessed was God.
If you have a photograph of God and wouldn't mind posting it then I'd be much closer to accepting what you've said. If you have personally viewed God and if other people I then meet also have viewed God (in the same numbers as those who have witnessed ghosts) then again, without photographic evidence I will be just as open to believing as you do.
Note above that I said "I'm open to the possibility", I didn't say "I believe in ghosts". That statement basically means "I don't disbelieve in ghosts". At the moment I disbelieve in God because I literally have zero personal experience and zero one-degree-of-separation experience via friends who themselves met God. A have no evidence whatsoever.
Now if you'd like to add to my experience by describing your relationship with God that would be helpful. If what you have is this feeling that he exists then I'll note that... but I doubt that it will change my current disbelief. I might personally believe or have a feeling that Elvis is still alive but that's not really evidence and it's not enough for anyone else to change their mind. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 10:02:48 PM | I might personally believe or have a feeling that Elvis is still alive but that's not really evidence and it's not enough for anyone else to change their mind.
Agreed...how about we cut out the God topic since "he" wasn't even mentioned in the OP. Way off topic people - stop hijacking the threads... Continue the discussion offline or start a new thread and let others continue the original topic. BEFORE the mods delete the thread.
Possessions as I've stated happen in all cultures, religions and people of all walks of life. Not all of mankind worship the same "God" or the Bible. As stated, Witch Doctors, Shamans, Healers...of all faiths practice exorcisms in all parts of the world. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 8:55:28 AM |
Diva_31: "Possessions as I've stated happen in all cultures, religions and people of all walks of life. Not all of mankind worship the same "God" or the Bible. As stated, Witch Doctors, Shamans, Healers...of all faiths practice exorcisms in all parts of the world."
So true.
To this, I'd add that the medical world has their own version of exorcising "demons" in a long history of shock treatments and lobotomies, for example. It's all a matter of perspective in the eyes of the healer, whether they be religious, medically-inclined or what have you.
I think this brings us back to the OP and I honestly have to say that I'd be a little worried if a police officer also considers himself an amateur exorcist. I think there should be a little more separation in the kind of power a police officer has over the ability to take someone into custody and someone who feels that performing an exorcism is in the person's best interest. It's a bad mix of careers in my humble opinion. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 3:19:50 PM |
Possessions as I've stated happen in all cultures, religions and people of all walks of life. Not all of mankind worship the same "God" or the Bible. As stated, Witch Doctors, Shamans, Healers...of all faiths practice exorcisms in all parts of the world.
Have been doing a lot of reading the last 2 days on exorcism. Have found the above statement is very true.
Had no idea they were so wide spread, and reached into almost every religion and culture. One common thing I have found, is that mistaking mental illness for demon possession, is quite common.
How ever, ran into numerous links, where Evangelical Psychiatrists actually blame the mental illness on Demon possession. The ancient Egyptians often performed Exorcisms on mentally challenged individuals , they as well put the cart before the horse perhaps, thinking it was demons that caused the illness.
Could not get the original reference, will keep trying, but one site made the statement that only 1 in 5,000 reported cases of demon possession, to the Roman Catholic Church , resulted in an Exorcism..
The RC, Anglican and Episcopalian churches all have trained practitioners of Excorism on their staff. They all require a medical Doctor/ Psychiatric check on the "patient " , prior to this being done. Even Scientology believes in demon possession. They do not even believe in Psychiatry I think, according to Tom Cruise that is.
One thing is quite sure, there are also a lot of very poor trained practitioners of this phenomenon. Amateur Religious zealots / witches , con artists are very plentiful in this field. Word for the wise, proceed with caution.
Also could find no reference as to why such force is needed, other than those supposedly possessed have extra strength, that children die. Laying on of hands is one thing, what is practiced by some in the name of God, is down right abuse at the best of times, and murder at the worst. . | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 4:26:46 PM | dunrich ^^ so true...like I said, there are so many unsolved cases of patients with mental disorders, and the doctors have not been able to find cures.
Exorcisms were also used in hospitals for different reasons. The doctors believed that the patient, themselves believed they were to be possessed and had demons inside them. The doctors thought that by bringing in a Priest/Rabbi, to perform an exorcism, would convince the patient psychologically, that the demons were released from within. And that the ritual would heal them. Kind of like the power of suggestion.
You tell someone "you're possessed"...they start believing it....so the doctors would suggest an exorcism to remove the demons...the expected result was that the patient would no longer suffer from the mental disorder, or magically be cured from this ritual...at least this is how the medical professionals rationalized this. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 4:32:16 PM |
The doctors thought that by bringing in a Priest/Rabbi, to perform an exorcism, would convince the patient psychologically, that the demons were released from within. And that the ritual would heal them.
Yes, I ran across that as well , if I remember correctly, it is referred to as the 'placebo effect" ?
Yes it sure has some interesting angles. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 7:39:32 PM | Forgive me if I duplicate anything said in this thread I don't generally read past the first page for other opinions, sometimes it can get quite lengthly! In regards to the thread title:
learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
These are 2 completely, and I do mean completely different things. Did I mention completely? Negative energies and exorcism couldn't be further from each other. So I would suggest picking which you'd like to focus on before you do so.
exorcisms and possessions are things of the movies
Are you positive about that? Just because you haven't witnessed it, doesn't make it real. And further to that, if you think it's a thing of the movies, why are you interested in learning the craft?
I am still quite young so I don't want to jump head first into it,
That's the smartest thing I've read yet in the thread, because honestly you'd better know what you are doing before you attempt to tackle anything in the spiritual in a negative manner.
I'm talking more about helping people tackle drug addiction, mental illness and other side effects of possessions
Than I would suggest taking a Psychology Course, maybe move into the field of Social Work?
I am relatively 'strong' so don't worry about any negativity attaching itself to me
Well you should worry, it doesn't matter how "strong" a person is, you are not and will not be exempt from something harming you. And having an ego in any of the above areans, big mistake.
Again, first you need to decide which avenue you want to go. Than sit down and figure out why you want to do it. Once you've done that, I'd suggest reposting with a more specific idea/arena and seeing if people can help you out. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 6:58:20 PM |
perhaps if they show us they can walk on water, turn water into wine I will take them more seriously.
No one ever needs to walk on water Jesus needed to get to the other side of a body of water and that was the only way avilabe to him at that moment. What did you want him to do steal some ones boat? A glass of wine is also not needed at this day and age but I have seen food supplies double. If people payed 10% to good churches that did the work we would never need a mircle regarding food or drink.
I do not need you to take me seriously I do not care if you ever believe but know that I am and if ever you truely have to do battle with something get a hold of someone like me quickly.
Spirits must have agreement with a person to opperate even the Holy Spirit will never do anything without agreement. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 7:48:31 PM | I am a Christian, but I never really "believed in" the Devil. I thought I just wouldn't give any energy to that line of thinking or belief. However, after living a very interesting life filled with lots of adventure, I have changed my mind. If the Devil isn't a real being, at least I have seen evil. I don't want to promote this even further by describing it on an open forum, but after some experiences, I did research this in the same way you are beginning to do.
I really enjoy reading books by M. Scott Peck, M.D, who was a Psychiatrist, who converted to Christianity as an adult. He seems to have come to the same conclusion, and saw this in some of his intractable patients. He became involved with a Catholic Priest who was an exorcist, and did several exorcisms, but then stopped because the process is very draining, time-consuming, and if you don't know what you are doing, the negative energy can attach to you, too, since the direct experience of evil--even as you are attempting to "remove" it, or to help someone battle with it--is further evidence of its power, and can be deceptive and cause you to "believe in it."
"Glimpses of the Devil, a Psychiatrist's Personal Accounts of Possession, Exorcism, and Redemption." by M. Scott Peck, M.D.
As for being strong, all I have to say is be open to the possiblity that this is way bigger than you are and take appropriate precautions. Simply studying it and being curious about it can attract some of these experiences to you, which is fine if you are ready, but why spend your time on this when you can be focusing on the good you can do and the power you already have to bring good into this world?
There is always choice in this world, and God has chosen to make this world one where we all can choose. This is why you can't really help some people as easily as you might think. You can't force adult people to change, or to be good. They always have choices to make. If they have chosen evil, you can only really truly help them if they make a different choice. Then you can offer them help, grace, forgiveness and a fresh start. Until then, you are tugging at one arm while the Devil is tugging on the other, and you will get pulled, too. You will always need God's help for this, and that is why the exorcism invokes Him. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 8:18:23 PM |
"I don't want to stick to any one religious doctrine either if I am to get serious about it, I would think I'd have to work withing my patient's perception. So using jesus to exorcise someone who thinks jesus is the devil probably won't work. I'm sure all the different doctines out there have a common thread though and I want to know what that is. "
These are the commonalities that I have found:
The true meaning of peace: sustainable human conduct.
THE GOLDEN RULE
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As represented by the world's greatest religions.
(also known as the "law of reciprocity" )
Aboriginal Spirituality
"We are as much alive as we keep the Earth alive. "
- Chief Dan George
Baha'i Faith
"Lay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you, and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself. "
- Baha'u'llah, Gleanings
Buddhism
"Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful. "
- The Buddha, Udana-Varga 5.18
Christianity
"In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets."
- Jesus, Matthew 7:12
Confucianism
"One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct. . .loving kindness. Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself. "
- Confucius, Analects 15.23
Hinduism
"This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you. "
- Mahabharata 5:1517
Islam
"Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself. "
- The Prophet Muhammad, Hadith
Jainism
"One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated. "
- Mahavira, Sutrakritanga
Judaism
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary."
- Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a
Sikhism
"I am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed, I am a friend to all."
- Guru Granth Sahib, pg. 1299
Taoism
"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain and your neighbor's loss as your own loss. "
- T'ai Shang Kan Ying P'ien, 213-218
Unitarianism
"We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence, of which we are a part. "
- Unitarian principle
Zoroastrianism
"Do not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself."
- Shayast-na-Shayast 13.29
"We are each responsible to seek not only our own benefit, but also what is good for others, as they see it. There rests the balance, the common good. "
Playground Rule
"Do to others as they do to you."
From the playground to places of power, there is no higher calling.
--Presented to Mrs. Gillian Sorensen, Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations, on January 4, 2002.
A framed Golden Rules poster was presented by the Board of the North American Interfaith Network, and Scarboro Missions, on behalf of the people in the many religious, spiritual and humanistic communities who honor these Golden Rules.
Paul McKenna and Scarboro Missions of Toronto produced the Golden Rules poster. In this poster, thirteen religious and spiritual traditions state a universal principle in elegant and distinctive forms.
Distributed by CoNexus Multifaith Media and can be viewed or purchased at www.conexuspress.com
The Golden Rule is implicit in the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights"— those rights we wish for ourselves shall also be granted to others.
Failure to adhere to these moral principles brings great hazards to all, ranging from unsustainable development practices to environmental crises and nuclear threats with their inherent potential for catastrophe.
Nations must treat other nations as they wish to be treated. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 8:31:59 PM |
"many people her are confusing sickness and possesion."
I agree. In the city where I live, a boy with Autism was supposedly being "exorcised" in a local church while he was being sat on to keep him still and he died.
For a different approach to alcoholism when more traditional approaches fail, there is a biomedical treatment that has worked for several people I know personally. You might try combining this approach with the more religious AA approach for a more comprehensive type of help.
"Alcoholism the Biochemical Connection: A Breakthrough Seven-Week Self-Treatment Program" by Joan Mathews-Larson Phd. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2008 10:30:05 AM | We are as much alive as we keep the Earth alive. I am so stealing that.
I"m glad a couple people piped up with regards to the selfrighteous god talk so I don't have to. Anyone like riddles? Cross your i and dot your t, it is right between your eye's
I agree with ted andrews when he says that children don't get possessed.
Trust me, sugar, as a Christian, trained in spiritual warfare, you will know.
We now step into the spiritual realm. Dun-ta-dun.
I know that you know what I am talking about so I will speak freely.
um yeah, not much I can say here. don't partonize people by calling them sugar you won't like the results, spiritual warefare? War doesn't belong anywhere let alone your spirit. We stepped into the spiritual realm when we entered the religious forum.
Oh, and thanks sweettreat, I was just stirring the pot with my 'ego' but I get the feeling your post was genuine. I try to keep my ego in check. I already have a lot of experience with the banishing of negative energies, well I more or less just disolve them, some retreat to come back later where as others challenge me. I've done a few things. One of which was my involvement in getting 6 people with cushy gov't jobs fired for doing something that I think is worse than murder( your opinions may vary, but I'm not posting what it was  besides there's privacy laws in my country). What I'm saying is that I'm thinking of taking the steps towards exorcisms, and I'm broadcasting for some direction on the subject. I've already had a couple good messages, but I'm always open for more.
The Dali Lama has some great words:
Instructions for Life.
1. Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk.
2. When you lose, don’t lose the lesson.
3. Follow the three R’s: Respect for self Respect for others and Responsibility for all your actions.
4. Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck.
5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
6. Don’t let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
7. When you realize you’ve made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it.
8. Spend some time alone every day.
9. Open your arms to change, but don’t let go of your values.
10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll be able to enjoy it a second time.
12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life.
13. In disagreements with loved ones deal only with the current situation. Don’t bring up the past.
14. Share your knowledge. It’s a way to achieve immortality.
15. Be gentle with the earth.
16. Once a year, go someplace you’ve never been before.
17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each other exceeds your need for each other.
18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.
19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.
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Posted: 9/5/2008 7:22:54 PM |
I do not need you to take me seriously I do not care if you ever believe but know that I am and if ever you truely have to do battle with something get a hold of someone like me quickly.
I do not " believe ", because I have doubts about some humans who claim they can perform miracles? Quite a stretch there, I think.
I have never once claimed that demons do not exist, that they have the ability to possess humans, that 'some " people can perform exorcisms , or that Jesus did walk on water . What I have said is , be careful for there are a lot of frauds and con artists out there.
Also, there are a lot of well meaning persons, who might think they have the ability to diagnose this, rid the person of demons, but perhaps are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
Obviously, there are a lot of persons who cannot perform exorcisms properly, the proof is the dead they leave by trying.
I believe in Christ, and also that some have the gift to do this. Some of those might not even call Christ by that name, but I have no doubt that there are those who have this gift. How ever, it is a gift given by God, power from God ( or higher power if you prefer), but not all those that claim to have it do.
There are too many, especially in Fundamentalists circles, who blindly believe and follow other men.
In my opinion, you should double check what these 'practitioner " say, get a second opinion, and for heavens sakes get some advice from medical and psychiatric Doctors. Any person who thinks they can wrestle a demon, by using enough force that they might harm, or kill , would be suspect for sure.
This field I think, has 10 wannabes, for every real one. | |
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| learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
Posted: 9/5/2008 10:45:54 PM | | A good banishment ritual to do the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the pentagrams if you want to do something very elemental wise. It involves all the high names of God used in the Qabalah as well as the archangels and is very cleansing and purifying to the soul and environment. This ritual was used in the Golden Dawn and has been adapted to many traditions today (you can find it here) http://www.kheper.net/topics/Hermeticism/LBR.htm - that ritual will really light you up on the astral with flaming pentagrams in your aura and all dirextions though. If you want something more discreet and less noticable I recommend the Rosey Crosses - http://www.hermetics.org/Rose-Cross.html .. One can do a number of things to the environment to purify it including praying, white light, sage, sandal wood and more. If you are of Catholic origins you should check out - http://www.catholicdoors.com/prayers/english/p01975b.htm *** Depending on the situation commanding the entities with a strong assertive voice and spreading salt over the place might be sufficient enough. The reason salt works is that it is corrosive to breaking up energy even within electrical wiring. It all depends on the situation. If you run accross a bad problem hit me up and I'll help ya :) | |
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| learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
Posted: 9/11/2008 11:19:42 AM | | I am a working medium and do soul rescue, whether it be negative entities or souls who have just not managed to 'go to the light'. In fact I did one yesterday. If I can be of any help, please ask. There will always be hundreds of suggestions of how to or not to do it. It cannot be successfully done without experience in 'spirit communication'. How others choose to do it, doesn't concern me, the way I do it always works and a soul 'returns home', which is the purpose of such work. | |
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| learning to performing exorcisms and banishing negative energies
Posted: 9/12/2008 4:25:25 PM | I wanted to respond to say that I have been involved in the metaphysical world for a short duration...only about three years now.
I have learned so much & it has chaged my life in many ways. What I have also learned is that young people are very easily swayed into this realm. And there is wonderful insight that can transform one forever. But there are also dark entities & people who are not of the light.
I would suggest that you find a mentor that is of the white light. Learn as much as you can before you dabble. There are definate rules of the universe that you don't wish to cross. I only say this because I am a mother of a daughter who is very calrvoyant. And have experinced first hand dark energies & people who do channel for the higher good.
Blessings... | |
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