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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 8/31/2008 6:40:02 PM | | Hell talk about 20,000 more not getting in just think of how many more people that can't in a Broncos game 75 more thousand are on hold and that's just to get season tickets. It's a lot worse in greenbay it takes upwards of 30 years to get season tickets. A lot of people end up dying before they can get a season ticket in greenbay that's how long the wait is. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/1/2008 10:44:04 PM | Ron Paul got some airtime on CNN a couple of days back.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/08/28/ron.paul.dnc.unity.cnn?iref=videosearch | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/2/2008 9:06:43 AM | As more comes out about Palin, her financial missteps, taking federal earmarks, though she claimed not to, fundraising for Ted Stevens, etc., it becomes apparent that she is CONSERVATIVE IN SOCIAL VALUES ONLY and fiscally irresponsible/bordering on incompetent.
He choice could lead to a real implosion of the republican party, where true fiscal conservatives, social indifferents or liberal are ask to support an incompetent candidate, once again, who has no economic savy or view for the future.
Ron Paul is a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE'S wet dream and he leaves all the social issues at the door (some of his social ideas are alarming to some, but because he doesn't make them election issues, many people could care less)
This year is a HUGE opportunity for some lucky third party candidate, and Ron Paul is in a good position to be that guy. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/2/2008 9:35:13 AM | Ron Paul is a true Conservative unlike current Republicans that don't really know what being a Conservative is anymore.
His focus now and probably was from the beginning of this election cycle was to draw awareness to true Conservative policies and to bring to the foreground like minded candidates that share his views.
Whether you agree or not, there are three things to read to understand Ron Paul. One, his book 'The Revolution: A Manifesto'. Two, 'The Federalist Papers'. And three, "The Constitution of the United States". These will help you to understand a little bit more about him. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/2/2008 9:45:07 AM | Ron Paul is Reminding Conservetives what their party used to be about.
He's pulling more people that McCain to his convention. VERY TELLING!!
I love the Irony of one Republican helping to ensure the defeat of his parties crooks, and another who is about to loose because of switching gears to align himself with his parties crooks.
All the while Barack Obama is getting ready to runaway with this
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 2008-2016! | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/2/2008 3:27:25 PM | Well, with Obama, you'll get those taxes that you seek, strangerinthehouse. In spades.
It's too bad, really, that the Americans who like taxes, somehow, somewhere, someway, got the power to impose those taxes on the people who DON'T want them.
People's true feelings on taxes would be revealed, I think, if we were taxes based on who we voted for. For instance, MY tax rate, as Ron Paul voter, would be ZERO percent. Your tax rate, as an Obama voter, would be 100% (since his Santa Clausian entitlement programs will certainly add up to more than that percentage)
Then, after the election, we'd see who's better off. If Ron Paul won, I'd have to settle for the same level of federal government services people had before the income tax came to be, in 1913. OR, if Obama wins, you'd have to settle for the standard of living of a slave, who has to turn all of the fruits of his labor over to his master, in exchange for being fed, clothed, and sheltered, for "free".
--Ray | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/2/2008 4:01:03 PM | You're right, Blacksheep.
The fact is, you don't get to be America's first "Affirmative Action" President without a LOT of help from the opposition. First, the Repug's give us arguably the WORST candidate from their slate of hopefuls. Elderly, Out-of-Touch, and Sooooooooo "hold-your-nose" Bush-Like, that the remaining segment of his party that still loves America simply can't bring themselves to support him. Between the Republicans who support Libertarian Ron Paul, and the Libertarians who support Republican Bob Barr, and McCain's own last-ditch effort to jump on the Affirmative Action Bandwagon with his Hail Mary VP pick, Obama could probably be found with a dead hooker in his hotel room and still win.
And rightfully so.
Every election in my lifetime, I've been asked to vote for the lesser of two evils. Why?
And why is everyone surprized when these races to destruction lead us to a place where we now have the choice between a candidate who wants a little more war, and a lot more social spending, (which we'll have to print money of of thin air to pay for), OR a candidate who wants a little more social spending and a lot more war (which we'll have to print money of of thin air to pay for)
When you vote for the lesser of two evils, evil you get, and evil you deserve.
I'm done. I'm voting for Ron Paul. If he's not on my ballot, I'm writing him in. If he says "No, we tried, but we can't win, so please vote for John McCain", I say, no way. I'm writing him in. If, god forbid, Ron Paul has a heart attack and dies before election day, I'm STILL writing him in. Because I swear, I'd rather have a dead Ron Paul in the White House, than a live John McCain.
If this means Obama wins, so be it. The faster the country goes bankrupt, the faster we can start over, Forced now into fiscally responsible position the the gov't isn't the world cop, nor is it Santa Claus with an unlimited bag of goodies. FINALLY saying to the war-wishers, and welfare wishers "Yes, we'd LOVE to start another war, and give everybody free food, and medicine, and housing. LOVE TO!!!! But see, we don't have any money. Sorry!
I could live in such a country. Those who want war and welfare, well, they'll just have to find another country.
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/3/2008 10:38:50 PM | Actually Rep. Ron Paul never said anything about yanking the tax revenue completely. If know your history (which I am guessing you don't), you would understand that the taxes in this country used to be based on a "flat-tax".
The fact of the matter is, prior to the illegal passage of the Income Tax Amendment, the only other time this country had a national income tax, was in civil war days. In which President Lincoln authorized a tax on income at 3%. That lasted approx. 10 years, ending 1872 (there about).
To be taxed on one's income like we have today is entirely un-American and would have the founding fathers (yes, they were men) throwing something into the water at Boston. It might even by that 1040 form we all have to fill out by April 15th.
You cannot run a country with some sort of tax base, that much is true. However if you are voting for Obama just for the fact that he wants to keep the income tax around, then my thought about Americans are stupid when it comes to politics in this country, would be correct. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 6:02:48 AM | The difference between the Boston Tea Party and today's income tax is "taxation without representation" versus "taxation by representation that doesn't give a damn".
There were two posters here that I don't see anymore that could explain the "Fair Tax" and why it would work.
The facts are there that the IRS and the income tax is forced slavery and is unconstitutional. My thing is that I don't mind throwing my share into the hat except that it's not spent the way it is supposed to be. $250 billion or so on education? Wouldn't it be nice if it all went toward education and not into pockets of crooks in suits? | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 8:58:42 AM |
...There were two posters here that I don't see anymore that could explain the...
There's a very good number of really good posters that we don't see here anymore. I can think off the top of my head of probably a dozen or so really good posters, (whether i agreed with them half the time or not) with really thought provoking or enlightening stuff that don't come here anymore. Haven't seen hide nor hair of them on here all year. Just my two cents.
I'm wondering if anyone has a link for last nights RNC roll call after Palin's speech. I know it doesn't matter, it was just for curiosity sake. I noticed one of the first states up, Alaska, pledged 24 or 25 of their delegates to McCain and 5 to Ron Paul, The Lady up at the front never recorded the delegates for Paul; they just moved on to the next state.
I bounced around a lot of websites looking for the final tally, but all i kept finding on the roll call was the video of the blonde delegate with wall to wall teeth from Arizona clinching the deal for McCain. News sources are such garbage these days to get any info out of.
VVV Thank you kindly good man. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:05:06 AM | http://www.dailypaul.com/node/60198
Final tally was 5, though at one point it looks like he had 11.
Thanks Ron Paul, I will see you in 4 years, as long as you don't keel over :( | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:15:15 AM |
...Thanks Ron Paul, I will see you in 4 years, as long as you don't keel over
from your link:
"Im still here you **stards!"
Steve McQueen
"Papillion"
Seems some repubs were outraged with some of the procedure reading that link. Maybe some affidavits are coming about how some pledges weren't counted, and the guy from Washington got his mike cut off when he was to give some delegates to Paul. they mentioned Romney's two delegates from Utah but refused to say Ron Paul's name. lol Too much.
Thanks again for the link.
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:29:08 AM | | The entire time watching the convention it continually occurred to me that McCain was losing 20% of the primaries to RP and other candidates that had already withdrawn from the race. As we watch this "unanimous" choice to lead the GOP, he was still losing 20% of the primary votes to people either not in the race or that the party fought to silence. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:34:38 AM | | It is too bad that Barr, not Paul is on the L ticket. . . He might have earned the 5% necessary to earn matching funds for the Libratarian Party. I don't agree with all of their platform, but they would be much better for the country than the Neocons have been! At least we wouldn't be attacking innoncent countries! | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 9:41:28 AM | Barr is at 5% nationally. If my memory serves me right, I think I saw 7-8% is where he is polling at. Which is where Perot was polling before he pulled his stunt and got into the debates.
That is the next step for Barr, get into those debates and show up the establishment. Which I believe he can. Just have to get to 15% by September 26th.
Thanks to whoever came up with that great idea. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 11:51:09 AM | Paul is on his own ticket still. I hope he gets into the debates, because he always brings the discussion back to monetary policy, something the Repubs USED to know alot about, but lately suck.
I get annoyed with the Rs when they claim to be the party of small government and sound fiscal policy, when it hasn't been true in almost 20 years. They only get away with making that claim because people don't know what monetary policy is and the economy is boring to talk about, so people tune it out.
Ron Paul may not have good answers to monetary policy, but he is excellent and making people remember it exists, and controlling the money supply in order to prevent haphazard inflation it's the original reason the federalist founding fathers demanded a strong, but limited federal government. | |
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| 10,000 to Attend Ron Paul's Convention in MN
Posted: 9/4/2008 12:17:34 PM | Why do I get the sense that the GOP picked the wrong guy?
There are much more qualified candidates out there, why did the party go with McCain? Could it be because it was "his turn"?
Ron Paul has as much chance getting into the debates as Barr, Nadar, McKinney, you get the idea. Its not gonna happen as long as these two parties remain in power. Obama is right, we need change, but its not the change he is talking about. The change needs to come from stripping these two parties of their power. | |
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