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I wouldn't leave any kind of dog with children unsupervised.
Fcuk.....how am I supposed to slope off to the pokies each night if I can't leave my dog to babysit?  | |
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Posted: 3/7/2010 8:26:42 PM | Even fully supervised a dog can bite a child. One of my dogs bit my daughter on the face when I was literally standing between them. He was terrified of her - fear aggression. He'd previously been abused (before we got him) and simply could not deal with a small child. As a result, he went to live with my brother and his adult housemates. I would not have put him down for doing what came natural to a dog (biting in fear). He did bite my daughter on the face and it was lucky I was there to grab him (he is a 5kg toy poodle) before he did any serious damage. He is much happier there and stress free. However sad it was for me to let him go, I had to do what was best for my daughter AND him. He's not a bad dog, he's very placid, BUT scared and you cannot train a dog out of fear aggression.
However, had he been a larger dog, who bit a 2 year old on the face, there is no doubt in my mind my daughter could have been seriously scarred for life and a lot more damage done.
My other dog has been fine with my daughter (and my other dog is a grumpy, deaf and partially blind geriatric poodle) who had also been abused (and is very scared of tall, dark men).....I'd never have expected the sweet placid one to bite her, but ALL dogs can bite. It's natural.
I would not put a dog down or punish it for killing birds. It's a natural thing to do - domestic dogs basically have the same mental state as wolf puppies! Would you shoot a woof puppy for catching and killing a bird? | |
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Posted: 3/7/2010 11:26:13 PM | My dog Jack bites people and is an unpredictable sh*t really would define him.
He's a 10 year old cattle dog cross and has bitten numerous people but not children as I make sure they are kept far away from him. He bails up people at the gate and I feel very safe with him about but there is that risk that he will nail the wrong person one day.
Cattle dogs are natural 'nippers' and a very head strong dog so sometimes its a given. As a pup he was tethered for 2 months and not socialised so hence this behaviour. I warn my friends and family about him and he has the back yard fenced off for himself and his partner in crime Wendy so that the electricity and water meters can be read without the staff losing their hands.
Outside the yard he is friendly and timid until it comes to a dog bigger than him......and then he will just punch on so I keep him on a tight lead.
I wouldnt ever put him down for his biting. He has only bitten immediate family and didnt even draw blood so it was hardly noteworthy. He hated my X mother in law and I just figured the old boy was a good judge of character.
Dogs are animals and no matter what breed are all capable of biting either through anxiety, fear, aggression or simply fun that they are carried away with. | |
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Naamah
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Posted: 3/8/2010 2:14:12 AM | My old dog can disengage a goose that has attached itself to a visitor's leg, by wrapping his jaws around the goose's neck and making it let go... without so much as leaving a toothmark on the goose.
Of course I mostly discourage this behaviour because it interferes with the sheer entertainment value of having geese.
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Posted: 3/8/2010 2:30:29 AM |
without so much as leaving a toothmark on the goose. Ah, yes, but did the goose leave teethmarks on the visitors?? Not to mention what sort of marks the visitors might have left.
I've always had pretty good dogs but we had a heeler X bullterrier once that started killing sheep so it had to go. It was a tough decision because the dog itself is probably doing what comes naturally and was otherwise loyal to us, but the alternative of keeping it locked up all the time and not being able to take it with us wasn't a good one. | |
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Naamah
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Posted: 3/8/2010 2:42:43 AM |
Ah, yes, but did the goose leave teethmarks on the visitors??
See line about... 'entertainment value'.  | |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 3:05:04 AM | Ah, yes, but did the goose leave teethmarks on the visitors??
Having had the pleasure of being attacked by above posters geese I can say that yes they do leave a mark and yes it does hurt. As the dog was no where to be seen I guess that was to allow the geese to attack with out the fear of having their necks hung on to.
After another close call I found the hen house to be a good place of refuge. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 3:44:22 AM | Having had the pleasure to witness above alledged "attack" after I had waltzed pass the goose and gotten a little friendly tap on the leg I considered as a "hello great to see you again" greeting.... not much entertainment value in seeing MR DH-1's greeting as it was over in a flash.
I found the hen house to be a good place of refuge
Seeing a 6ft man cowering in the henhouse with a small goose standing guard outside.. I suppose in hindsight assistance could have been offered but after the hysterical laughter had subsided and with camera in hand it made more sense to take some pics in stead.... as Naamah said its all about the entertainment value
Not to mention what sort of marks the visitors might have left.
The goose almost had its head caught in the henhouse door.... but came away from the incident totally unscathed.... Goose 1 Mr DH-1 0... looking forward to the next visit to add to the scores .. my bets are on the goose  | |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 3:46:20 AM | The back of the ute wasn't a bad place to take refuse either...whilst waiting for some-one to distract said geese.Come to think of it...said dogs where sitting on the veranda.I think i spied a smile on their faces...silly humans i think was their thoughts.
The only thing that worried me...was if the geese could fly...i could be in a spot of bother. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2010 3:08:02 PM |
He hated my X mother in law and I just figured the old boy was a good judge of character.
It's quite uncanny the way animals can be such good judges of character, our old cat liked to sit on the porch and take swipes at door to door hawkers and Jehovah's Witnesses.
The only thing that worried me...was if the geese could fly...i could be in a spot of bother.
...Urrm, they can, perhaps you could wait until migration season before you visit again.
I've only had the pleasure of having my leg bitten once, apparently they don't do it anymore because I now try to pat them....I reckon it's cos after one taste of my chicken legs, they've accepted me as one of their own. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2010 2:39:47 AM | | Thats handy to know Julian, all I need is some thing that can attack me and then take off and sh1t on me just to really make my day. Getting attacked by a dog is starting to sound good now. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2010 2:58:02 AM | | ^^^Better watch out if you visit Hilly... she's got flying monkeys. | |
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ssuzy
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Posted: 3/10/2010 4:07:02 AM | I have owned dogs all my life. I have also shown, trained and bred pure bred dogs and from my experience a lot of people pick a breed of dog for all the wrong reasons. Dogs should NEVER be given as gifts unless you are 100% sure the giftee has done their research and can cope with that particular breed. Children should never be given a dog as a gift - it should be a family purchase.
Cattle dogs and Kelpies will get bored in the bigest of yards because they need mental stimulation - they need to work because that is what they were bred for. Fox terriers were bred to hunt and kill small rodents so they get excitable around flittery, scampering things such as the chook pen or the neighbours cat. Malamutes were kept as all purpose dogs by eskimos - yes they pulled sleds but they were also used to babysit the children so I would trust a malamute with children but not with small animals as they are genetically pure - their dna is over 3000 years old so they run on instinct and basic instinct is to hunt for their food. (My son's Malamute is an excellent rat hunter with many kills to her credit and she is not even 2 yet but she is so gentle with my 4 year old niece). Dalmatians are high energy dogs - bred to run vast distances - so not really suitable for families that don't have time to run/walk them a lot.
There are plenty of websites with plenty of info on any breed you are thinking about buying. Please do your research. | |
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Posted: 3/10/2010 4:00:38 PM | My sister was helping clean up after we had a boon fire party, she was 10. (1969) the niegbours dog had gotten out of the yard and bite her on the leg from behind, the dog was put down.
I now have a german shepard, she is a wonderful loving dog. She has prevented idiots from jumping my fence to get away from cops or trying to break in. I say it has all to do with the training and the love you spend on the animal.! | |
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Posted: 3/13/2010 8:02:31 AM | | Tie the chick around the neck of the OWNER and if killing a dog is the answer the best bet would be don't own any dogs | |
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Posted: 3/13/2010 2:59:19 PM | | I never agreed with having to put the animal down. It was something like 30 years ago, things change. I had a hobby farm for over two years and worked for bird rescue for 5 years, mostly peacocks..lol | |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 3:29:24 AM | OP:
So now here is the question. How does one punnish the dog? You do not punish the dog, and certainly not after the fact. Understand this - dogs live in the moment. Any unwanted behaviour needs to be addressed immediately with a correction; not punishment. And most unwanted behaviour, even that relating to so-called vicious dogs, is 99% of the time the fault of the owner's ignorance. Between my friend & I, we've owned & trained bullies, rotties & shepherds and never had an issue. Borrow some DVDs of the Dog Whisperer for some insightful approaches to handling behavioural problems.
As for barkbusters, that's just plain cruelty.  | |
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Posted: 7/6/2011 10:04:20 PM | You've already had a few very good responses to this thread. For all you know, the dog might have killed them by accident, trying to play with them. Should he be put down? Noooooooo!!! If your friend doesn't want to keep him, there are plenty of rescue's around the country that will find this dog a new home, without chickens!!!
However, I strongly suggest your friend reads Patricia McConnell ~ The other end of the leash!!! Actually, I recommend EVERYONE who thinks they may want a dog or has one or more reads this book!! It takes the frustration out of dog-ownership, by making us understand our dogs for the fantastic creatures they are!!  | |
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Posted: 12/26/2011 10:04:02 PM | on the other end of the leash is an animal at some developmental stage of a wolf. treat it as a dog, let it be a dog.
to anthropomorphise it's "shame", when it's reading/reacting to the humans emotion at that moment, and is fearful, is ignorance. | |
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Posted: 12/27/2011 6:26:14 AM | Dog's are animals. Thus they have animal intincts.....A bit like men.
I had chickens in my yard and 3 cats. The chickens kept the cats at bay cause they work in a group.
Now I have Doris the duck and she now keeps the cats at bay. Would I allow a dog to go near Doris? NO
Should the dog be put down because of the chicks owner's stupidity? NO!
Sure the chicks ventured into the dog's territory, but the environment should have been assessed more accurately. Chicks fly.
I think the owner has been irresponsible in this case by not providing a safe environment for the chicks, which includes an overhead coverage.
One chick leads the way and the other's will surely follow.
Tying the deceased around the dog's neck is just stupid and I have never heard of such a wierd thing.
I just hope your friend has learned from this experience. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2011 4:36:14 PM | Chickens eats bugs, dog eats chicken.
See, there is karma in the animal world. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 11:13:37 PM | | all dogs have potential 2 kill, ver pests. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 7:04:54 AM |
Does anyone know what to do with a dog that attacks other creatures?
If you want it to stop you kill the dog, simple!! You can't change what is in some dogs nature.
WTF!!! If you want it to stop you dont put temptation in its way! Jesus Christ some people are stupid I Hope neither of you get an animal you clearly don't have the brains to look after it! | |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 7:20:07 AM | OP your dog is having to live through instinctive behaviour. Humans don't. Elrida said it best in her post.
A dog that kills small moving things is not psycho ... A chimpanzee that kills other monkeys for food isn't psycho ... A human that kills for neither food, territory or protection of it's group probably is. | |
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