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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/1/2008 12:48:03 PM | I met someone on here that is a sociopath..she has no remorse nor feeling about her actions toward others..yikes!! Two people have claimed I have BPD...a person that is a true sociopath and an alcoholic that I dated...yeah..I'm seeking therapy because of their recommendations..LOL!! omg..the alcoholic is homeless as of now, and the sociopath is well..still dating a prison inmate and still collecting an unemployment check while searching for work..yet she sports a 4 year university degree...hmmm...wonder why she can't find a job with her pleasing personality and 4.0 average???? Alrighty, then.
Any disorder, mental or otherwise needs to be diagnosed by a trained professional. If someone's behaviour is scaring you or is looking like less than "normal" on a daily basis, then direct them to your county counselor.
According to my true friends down here, I'm completely normal..according to my enemies I have BPD, or any other mental illness they can hang on me to make themselves feel better about themselves because of their horrible, sad existence.
God..if the Commander in the Coast Guard Aux says I'm "normal" as she did today when visiting my home, then I have to believe her, no? She's just as twisted as I am..LOL..but we know how to save your a$$ on the water three ways to Sunday if you reside on the Gulf coast of Florida.
A person with BPD would have a hard time being able to read a GPS or a compass with mental clarity and keep a cool head in the face of a rogue wave hitting your trawler with the force of 10 tons of water pushing you into a force of hell you never want to experience again. And I have BPD?? Think, again.
I think what I have is called "courage", not BPD.
And do have a nice day!
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/3/2008 8:41:46 PM | I think everyone is looking at this from such a micro perspective. We look at BPD and its intolerances; we look at individuals and put blame towards them for the hurt they have caused us due to their behavior. We write threads upon threads, although show little or no sympathy, empathy for those who have encountered people suffering from BPD and those suffering from BPD. We say oh now I have so many issues with relationships, low self esteem, and no trust because I dated someone with BPD. Is this an epidemic? If it continues this way eventually everyone in the world will suffer from BPD or some form of personality disorder.
I believe we need to ask a bigger question. How long has BPD been around? Is it a cross cultural issue? How come people in history were able to stay married and now 60% of the population can't. Is it BPD the epidemic that has swept the nation/world? We as human beings are getting smarter and more advanced with every decade that passes. Although we seem to have allot more complex biological, psychological, social and environmental issues as well.
There’s a whole lot more out there that we disregard. Media, social conditioning, education. If you learn how to behave in relationships based on episodes of The Hills, Sex in the City, David Deangelo, Oprah, the internet and many other sources of Pseudo social psychology then forget about BPD. BPD is like stubbing your toe compared to everything else.
I think it's time to start educating ourselves with reality. But then again what is reality now days? Who on here can tell me how an individual can educate themselves on the true honest goodness of life, love and relationships? Don't give me crap about religion either because tha's another one even more evil than everyone in this world with BPD combined. I'm not here to sound like a crazy nut job like some or most of you may think but I'm here to ask and find some real answers to some real questions. Thanks everyone! | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/3/2008 9:00:02 PM | I would run so fast and so far until I couldn't run then I would crawl on my hands and knees to stay away from someone with serious mental illness issues. I know there are levels to BPD but I was married to one for 9 years - well eight years and 363 days, he dumped me two days before our anniversary.
In the psych hospital after we split they diagnosed him with:
- Bipolar rapid cycling - Narcississtic personality - Borderline personality
He was:
- Mr Nice Guy take the neighborhood kids for slurpees - Mr Spouse Abuser - Mr Model Citizen - Mr Pothead Rebel - Mr Loving and Tender - Mr Cold and Distant - Mr Lazy - Mr Egotistical - Mr Cynical - Mr Paranoid - Mr Passionate - Mr Sensitive - Mr Extravagant - Mr Quiet - Mr Loud - Mr Obnoxious - Mr Grouchy - Mr Fun - Mr Spontaneous
etc. I could make like those "Mr Men" books but you would think it was a hundred different people. Add to that him loving only himself and him being happy AND sad in the same afternoon, life was pretty harsh for me the past couple of years I was with him.
Mild mental illness maybe, but how do you really know anyway when you first meet someone? This guy could hold it together for exactly as long as needed before it all 'hung out' again or lashed out at me. I remember when he was in the psych hospital I was on the phone to him and he was all loving and tender and suddenly I heard a voice say "I'll hang the f*ing phone up when I'm f*ing done this f*ing call you stupid b*tch" to one of the nurses. It was HIS voice. That fast, he could change and transform back.
Scary as hell. I wish BPDs luck in some kind of rehab but. . .unless it's very mild I'm not going to be there for it! | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/3/2008 11:14:09 PM | To answer a few of your questions from my perspective....
How long has BPD been around?
BPD wasn't introduced to the DSM until 1980... but was first characterized by ( i can't remember the name off the top of my head but i want to say....) Stern in 1938..... pretty amazing since we still do not know everything there is to know about the disorder.
Is it a cross cultural issue?
IMO....Of course it is a cross cultural issue...as with all personality disorders. It is largely diagnosed by what a culture or society deems to be normal behaviour ( how do they view certain behaviour in Canada vs Japan etc). So when looking at diagnostic criteria.... the psychiatrist would have to factor in the different scenario's for different people .
How come people in history were able to stay married and now 60% of the population can't. Is it BPD the epidemic that has swept the nation/world?
BPD has nothing to do with the current divorce rate...
We as human beings are getting smarter and more advanced with every decade that passes. Although we seem to have allot more complex biological, psychological, social and environmental issues as well.
Alot of the reasoning to this is because we are more advanced in research and technology than the past and are able to study the brain and find out more about mental illness, their effects and treatments. It may seem more prevelant now, but only because of more knowledge.... just because it wasn't diagnosed before doesn't mean it wasn't present....
We say oh now I have so many issues with relationships, low self esteem, and no trust because I dated someone with BPD. Is this an epidemic? If it continues this way eventually everyone in the world will suffer from BPD or some form of personality disorder.
People that end a relationshipo with someone with BPD do not become BPD.... they may suffer traumatic stress and some post traumatic stress disorder.
I think it's time to start educating ourselves with reality. But then again what is reality now days? Who on here can tell me how an individual can educate themselves on the true honest goodness of life, love and relationships?
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/4/2008 7:39:27 AM | | Now that's better! I'm not too sure about the corelations between BPD and divorce though. I totally agree with morals and beliefs. More so Values and principles. That is great but what if your values and principles are to belittle women, or cheat on them because that is all you were taught or have experienced? How do we interact as individuals and have relationships. There is more than a 60% chance that everyone on this site that meets the person of their dreams will break up, seperate, or eventually get divorced. This does have something to do with BPD because BPD is just one of the many things that sabotage relationships. If we are smarter now how come we can't figure out a way to make relationships work at least 80% of the time. Its seems maybe in the 1900's BPD and other mental disorders were not discovered but where still there. Then how did more than 80% of the population stay married then? My answer to you people is, the majority of people grew up learning proper values and principles of how to stay together as a family, work together, and love one another. These families were not always functional although they adhered to their most important values, principles of family and unity. There is not much of that around today. Who do we blame for that? How do we learn proper values and principles? If dressing like a slut and going out to the bar every night is your thing then how would one learn to have effective relationships? BTW that acounts for a huge number of males and females in todays society that especially on this site is found attractive so explain that one please. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/4/2008 10:09:47 AM | Although this is getting somewhat off topic to the OP, it is still about BPD and so I will finish up this response and then feel free to email papi and we can chat about it or even start up a new thread if you want....
More so Values and principles. That is great but what if your values and principles are to belittle women, or cheat on them because that is all you were taught or have experienced?
While i agree with this statement, it goes to show that generation after generation have passed down these values to their children. It is learnt behaviour - they somehow were exposed to this growing up. This is why i put morals and beliefs and what you do with them. If this is your typical behaviour.... you can't blame anyone.... you need to change it. Only person that can change their life around is you. It may be extremely hard, but if people continue to blame others, they will never change. This is for those without a mental illness.... BPD is somewhat different.
Now that's better! I'm not too sure about the corelations between BPD and divorce though
Considering that BPD only accounts for roughly two percent of the population, it has a minor effect on the divorce rate... although i am not saying that those relationships where BPD in present do not usually end with some sort of seperation... for those that do not get help.
If we are smarter now how come we can't figure out a way to make relationships work at least 80% of the time. Its seems maybe in the 1900's BPD and other mental disorders were not discovered but where still there. Then how did more than 80% of the population stay married then? My answer to you people is, the majority of people grew up learning proper values and principles of how to stay together as a family, work together, and love one another. These families were not always functional although they adhered to their most important values, principles of family and unity.
The correlation between todays generation and that of even 50 years ago has nothing to do with BPD.... they stayed married because woman had no rights. Abuse often occured but was not talked about. Woman had no outside supports. In today's society there are many supports, woman ... and men will not put up with any crap. I don't know what kind of values there were to say that it's unity as a family over woman as objects and servants. I could go on forever. They did not have the knowledge and extensive research on brain matter at that time to make the diagnosis of mental illness that we can today... although it still far far from perfect, we have made great strides. Look at some of the great influences of our time that are believed to have bipolar from speculation arising from either their own writings and accounts from those that knew them, or from an actual medical diagnosis.... churchhill, beethoven, hemingway, isaac newton, edgar allan poe..... so it existed.... just without the means of diagnosis.... | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/4/2008 6:25:45 PM | | I agree, I believe womans rights movement contributed on a grand scale towards psychology and research in mental health including women, homosexuals and other minorities. Although I see there was a balance brought to equality between male and female professionaly, economicaly and such and now it seems males are brought under by the mass media of sex sells advertising and marketing. Women tend to use the power of sex to dominate or compete and this seems to conflict with evolutionary psychology. Would this not create an imbalance in nature? It reflects on our children, relationships and overall society. Could nature be our greatest moral to undertake? Or have we gone completely crazy with our modern sophistication and created a world based on profit margins and economics? I know you might think what does this have to do with BPD but as you mentioned learnt behavior is created or absorbed by our experiences with nature or what we believe to be nature. If our world our society is based on making money then of course this will directly conflict with our ability to hold high morals in the sense of love and relationships. If our society was based on making babies then we would be looking at a whole other spectrum of mental disorder. Yes people have to fix themselves no one can do it for them but if you don't have a model or clear understanding of the way things "should" be then how do they fix themselves? Why would an individual be insecure? why would they create alternate realities in order from them to profit in thier relationships and then befriend people at the same time? Our minds are complex if we give it the wrong information and then ask it to give us the right information it's not gonna likely gonna give us what we want. Its like saying I want someone who will love me, be caring, understanding, considerate, and loyal. But then saying god stop being so nice, you don't have to do everything for me I can do it myself thank you very much! What I need is a man, a man who is strong who can take care of me, who's got more important things to do then spend every minute with me. What I often hear from women are two conflicting concious and subconcious realities. Men on the other hand are more likely to think if your nice to me, you listen to what I have to say and give me a steady supply of pleasure in or outside the bedroom then I'm happy with that. There is always something that will be lacking in a relationship. The grass is always greener on the other side of course until you see the other side of that grass and so on. My ultimate question is how does one guy and one girl stay together and be ultimately happy and fulfiled in a relationship? Is this possible and if so how? | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/5/2008 4:52:15 PM |
How long has BPD been around?
probably as long as people have had early experiences with rejection. one article indicates that the disorder starts in childhood with a disconnect at bonding stage. and historical figures have shown many of the characteristics of bpd. sylvia plath comes to mind, as does zelda fitzgerald.
we've begun to look at individuals presenting these behaviors because our culture has not only reached a stage of heightened research and interest, but we've also developed an intolerance for those who act out unresolved issues.
saddest thing, i think, is that behavioral therapy seems to help, but only with dedication and determination. it would have to become an all-consuming undertaking. and few people would willingly make the effort, i fear. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/5/2008 5:52:07 PM | I agree, I believe womans rights movement contributed on a grand scale towards psychology and research in mental health including women, homosexuals and other minorities. Although I see there was a balance brought to equality between male and female professionaly, economicaly and such and now it seems males are brought under by the mass media of sex sells advertising and marketing. Women tend to use the power of sex to dominate or compete and this seems to conflict with evolutionary psychology. Would this not create an imbalance in nature? It reflects on our children, relationships and overall society. Could nature be our greatest moral to undertake? Or have we gone completely crazy with our modern sophistication and created a world based on profit margins and economics? I know you might think what does this have to do with BPD but as you mentioned learnt behavior is created or absorbed by our experiences with nature
or what we believe to be nature. If our world our society is based on making money then of course this will directly conflict with our ability to hold high morals in the sense of love and relationships. If our society was based on making babies then we would be looking at a whole other spectrum of mental disorder. Yes people have to fix themselves no one can do it for them but if you don't have a model or clear understanding of the way things "should" be then how do they fix themselves? Why would an individual be insecure? why would they create alternate realities in order from them to profit in thier relationships and then befriend people at the same time? Our minds are complex if we give it the wrong information and then ask it to give us the right information it's not gonna likely gonna give us what we want. Its like saying I want someone who will love me, be caring, understanding, considerate, and loyal. But then saying god stop being so nice, you don't have to do everything for me I can do it myself thank you very much! What I need is a man, a man who is strong who can take care of me, who's got more important things to do then spend every minute with me. What I often hear from women are two conflicting concious and subconcious realities. Men on the other hand are more likely to think if your nice to me, you listen to what I have to say and give me a steady supply of pleasure in or outside the bedroom then I'm happy with that. There is always something that will be lacking in a relationship. The grass is always greener on the other side of course until you see the other side of that grass and so on. My ultimate question is how does one guy and one girl stay together and be ultimately happy and fulfiled in a relationship? Is this possible and if so how?
This is a very nice post......
I know probably equal numbers of men with Borderline Personality Disorder as women...statistically, more women develop BPD. All three men were either brutally physically, sexually, or PSYCHOLOGICALLY by their father's.
Contrary to popular belief, if a child is told repeatedly that they are.....stupid, ugly, fat, worthless, no good.....I could go on....it doesn't "roll off their back"...they take it to heart, and see this as an "abandonment" by the parent.
The child then either tries to "attach" themself to the parent...gets good grades, does everything right....just to hear the parent say that he is "proud" of them. This doesn't happen.
Or, the child will "despise" the parent with a vengeance....and never listen to a word from their mouth again.
This phenomenon is called "splitting" and is the basis of "idealization, and devaluation".
This process continues throughout the Borderline's life...if they like someone, they REALLY like them (romantic, sensitive...sound familiar?) but, the first time the person does something "wrong"....look out....they become the "devil incarnate" and must be punished.
In this mix is a huge amount of overreaction.......
When the "devalued" person reacts negatively to the "punishment", the Borderline will panic....fearing "abandonment" (as with the parent)
Thus the title of the book "I hate you, don't leave me".....
This is the tip of the iceberg of the Borderline personality.....
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 8:44:34 AM | Borderlines and Divorce....
Divorce has a huge impact on Borderlines. One of the reasons Borderline has become so much more "noticed" in the past couple of decades, is because divorce has become much more prevalent.
Any kind of real or "perceived" abandonment will lead the Borderline to panic. With relationships today being so "disposable", the Borderline may virtually be in a constant state of panic.
Three or four decades ago, divorce was much more uncommon. The Borderline was more "secure" in their married life.
In addition many fewer parents left the family....resulting in less feelings of "abandonment" | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 11:09:58 AM |
Divorce has a huge impact on Borderlines. One of the reasons Borderline has become so much more "noticed" in the past couple of decades, is because divorce has become much more prevalent.
Any kind of real or "perceived" abandonment will lead the Borderline to panic. With relationships today being so "disposable", the Borderline may virtually be in a constant state of panic.
Three or four decades ago, divorce was much more uncommon. The Borderline was more "secure" in their married life.
In addition many fewer parents left the family....resulting in less feelings of "abandonment"
I am not so sure that the reason that BPD has become more notices in the past couple of decades is due to the increase in the divorce rate or prevelance of.... Sure it is cause for those in the relationship to end the marriage or part in the relationship, but i believe that it is much more noticed because of the research and understanding to date about this disorder. Also the campaigns that promote mental health and raise awareness about mental health and illness. As well as technology that has developed in today's society that wasn't around 30, 40, or even 20 years ago for that matter. The global communication the internet provides has a huge impact on menatl health issues.
Though i don't believe you are saying this in your first statement, i could be wrong. I hardly believe that BPD would have enough stats for the cause of dissolution of marriage considering BPD only accounts for roughly 2% of the population. But with the current divorce rate and the rate of BPD in our country, simple math would tell us that it wouldn't even make a dent in the that number.
I also wanted to say that three or four decades ago divorce was not nearly as prevelant, and yes those with BPD probably did feel more secure in the relationships, it is not to say the same problems did not occur in the marriage. The only difference from then to now is that people put up with more back then.... woman didn't have the same choices they do now.... BPD was not in the DSM and not diagnosed at that time. Societal views on marriage were more sacred than now. As you put though... with the "security" they felt in their relationship, I wonder if the womans role ( as about 75% of BPD is woman) 50 years or so as opposed to the current, plays a very large role.
Womans roles decades ago ( as deemed by society) was to take care of the family and take care of her husband. That is where the whole part of being dependant, trying to please and become what the other wants of them, seeking approval and relying on others for directions. Although this does not apply to all those wth BPD and is not a full list of symtoms, it could help them maintain their marriage. Whereas in todays society the woman role is not so set in stone... there are many outlets, and trying to please everyone can be hard. It is also a "me" and "want" society and that could feed into the behaviours more. I guess the question i am posing is do people think that different behaviours would be more prevelant with the years in which we are looking at the disorder? Especially with regards to womans roles in society throughout the years? | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 12:04:29 PM | I am not so sure that the reason that BPD has become more notices in the past couple of decades is due to the increase in the divorce rate or prevelance of....
I don't think I said that BPD was more "noticed" because of divorce...
What I said is that BPD is actually on the "rise" because of divorces. Children feel "abandoned" more often now, than they did 4 decades ago....it's simple logic.... | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 12:25:44 PM | Quazi... no need to be rude.... i wasn't sure if i misread that line to begin with, my fault. Now that i understand it, I can say i agree....
I enjoy reading your posts... very accurate and knowledgeable...
Also, a minor spelling error...... sorry if i did not have time to proofread before i posted, i was in a hurry.... not so important to me. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 12:45:49 PM | I didn't intend to be rude......sorry....
I believe that the new DSM will show a more valid depiction of BPD.
75% of Borderlines are women....I don't think so. I believe that men are often misdiagnosed with antisocial or narcissistic personality disorder. To me, they tend to have more of the "distancing" behaviours than the "clinging" behaviours associated with BPD.
Usually diagnosed in early adulthood....could be true, but I believe that BPD actually occurs in childhood, as my posts reflect.
2% of the population....again, probably due to the fact that diagnosis happens in early adulthood. I believe that will be going up exponentially as the "divorce era" continues.
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 1:02:40 PM | I need to be quick here as i have to head back, but couldn't agree more.
As these are the stats right now, it doesn't necessarily mean they are accurate. It is also the percentages of those that have been diagnosed. Little is known about BPD, and considering how long it has taken us to get to the point we are at today.... i believe we have just touched the surface of this disorder. The brain is such an amazing and difficult thing to study, that i wouldn't doubt that it will be a long time coming before things can be understood on a decent level with mental illness. Much advances taken place yes, but so much more to do. BPD is often misdiagnosed as another disorder for many reasons.... but I predict it in later years to become a somewhat common disorder ( common is probably the wrong word), more will be understood in regards to treatment, and the stigma will decrease, and preventative measures may also be found.
BPD occurs in children yes, diagnosed in adulthood probably because of development in children. Similiar to bipolar, in recent years children are now being diagnosed in their childhood years.... very recent thing and I believe BPD may have somewhat of the same following, but possibly later in their teenage years. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 1:40:55 PM | I've had experiences with five women with BDP. Unfortunately I married two of them.....they were very good at keeping their disorders hidden until after the marriage.
It turned out that the third one knew my 2nd ex and together they were trying to rip my life apart. They almost did!!
I met the fourth one five years after the end of the relationship I had with the third one. That too was a nightmare.
As for the fifth one? By the time I met her I had sufficient experience (as well as adacemic studies) to by wise enough to stay away from her.
My expert advice (due to my own experiences as well as university level studies) is STAY AWAY from anyone who has MPD, BPD, Bi-Polar, or any other personality disorder.
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 2:23:16 PM | lol... I can't stay away....so much for my work....
My expert advice (due to my own experiences as well as university level studies) is STAY AWAY from anyone who has MPD, BPD, Bi-Polar, or any other personality disorder.
curious to know.... you meant to type MPD? Multiple personality disorder (now known as dissociative identity disorder) is not a personality disorder, nor is bipolar, and i will say with your university education i am surprised that you are not more sympathetic... also knowing that each person and disorder is different.... ranging from mild to severe.
Also, curious to see your points as to why BPD is not a cross cultural issue. I have a psych degree too and am not saying i am right (as i know people's opinion's are different on things that we can only speculate right now), but more curious to see your views as well as maybe challenge a bit.... | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 5:17:58 PM | Yes Jaemey, I meant to type MPD. I don't buy into the so-called new designation DID. Personality disorders are Satantic in nature. And you could say that I don't come across as being very sympathetic due to my personal experiences.
Alot of my profs don't like me because I refuse to allow them to brainwash me into believing their left wing hogwash. I'm only taking these courses so I can pursue my Criminlogy/Criminal Justice BA. And I refuse to comprimise my Christian/Conservative/Crime Control beliefs. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 5:32:41 PM | I don't think anyone of us can "educate" ourselves on diagnosing any mental illness without the former education, experience and case studies to go on. We can all look up the symptoms of "XYZ" disorder in the DSM-IV if we've had a bad experience with someone and want to place the blame solely on them. I'm not a therapist, nor do I claim to be. I've had several so called "friends" in the past that exhibited behaviour that I questioned in my mind, yet choose not to label them as a "sociopath" or "anorexic" when indeed, I know they have, or have had some mental issues in the past. Thank god, they're no longer in my life but they seem to keep going on and on and on about how other people have BPD or are bi-polar without taking a good, hard look at themselves first. You cannot...and I REPEAT THIS...cannot, nor have the right to diagnose ANY mental disorder in ANYONE unless you are trained professionally to do so, and the so called "know it all psychobabble nuts" on here need to put in the blood, sweat and tears of 4+ years of higher education before they decide who has BPD, MPD, ADD, or any other Acronym that they think they've had an experience with..perception is a tricky thing if it's only your perception regarding that person. Other people's perception of you may be entirely different and you may be sane after all according to your friends and family. After all, don't they know you best? My mom is like a wild animal if you bad mouth me or my brother in her presence and she'll make you wish you were dead with words and with so much class you'll never know what hit you.
And I was wrong on labeling someone on here to be a "sociopath." I'm not the least bit trained to diagnose this person, nor her behaviour on trying to discredit me on a public forum. I posted that out of of anger, and that was so wrong of me on so many counts. I have much more class than that.
*sigh* I wish I had a psych degree..I could at least afford to fill my SUV up once a week like you guys can.
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 5:44:13 PM |
I don't think anyone of us can "educate" ourselves on diagnosing any mental illness without the former education, experience and case studies to go on. We can all look up the symptoms of "XYZ" disorder in the DSM-IV if we've had a bad experience with someone and want to place the blame solely on them. I'm not a therapist, nor do I claim to be. I've had several so called "friends" in the past that exhibited behaviour that I questioned in my mind, yet choose not to label them as a "sociopath" or "anorexic" when indeed, I know they have, or have had some mental issues in the past. Thank god, they're no longer in my life but they seem to keep going on and on and on about how other people have BPD or are bi-polar without taking a good, hard look at themselves first. You cannot...and I REPEAT THIS...cannot, nor have the right to diagnose ANY mental disorder in ANYONE unless you are trained professionally to do so, and the so called "know it all psychobabble nuts" on here need to put in the blood, sweat and tears of 4+ years of higher education before they decide who has BPD, MPD, ADD, or any other Acronym that they think they've had an experience with..perception is a tricky thing if it's only yours regarding that person.
I agree. I didn't come to any conclusion on my own. I was advised by either professionals or the person themselves regarding their personality disorders.....and of course being a Christian I disagree with the secular professional's explanation of the source of the disorder. The bottom line is that each person was satanically possessed. | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 7:41:51 PM |
I agree. I didn't come to any conclusion on my own. I was advised by either professionals or the person themselves regarding their personality disorders.....and of course being a Christian I disagree with the secular professional's explanation of the source of the disorder. The bottom line is that each person was satanically possessed.
Satanically possessed....hmmmmmm
You have either dated, or married four so-called "satanically possessed" women....have you ever wondered why you are attracted to them, and them to you?
So what is the solution....exorcism?
What a novel idea.
Sorry, I just have trouble with very regimented people, who have no idea about some of the realities of life.
I agree, that SOME Borderlines may "seem" "bad" or "evil" which usually coincides with what they have been told, or perceived as children. Go back and look at the childhoods of your four women.....you'll find that they weren't "normal". | |
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| Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder) Posted: 6/6/2008 7:51:54 PM | I'm a "babe in the woods" on this..I actually went to a therapist when my last relationship (the homeless alcoholic) claimed I had "BPD." I was wrongly second guessing myself and wanted proof that I was sane.
Well, hmmm..It only took two sessions with my therapist for him to tell me that I was fine and well grounded without fail, and that others may have a problem with my success, living on a island, my tenacity in having to overcome any and all obstacles in order to get to where I am when they couldn't acquire the same and would be jealous of me no matter what the circumstances are..he was spot on!!
He and I are still friends to this day and "high five" each other whenever we meet. What a great guy!
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